Fact of the matter is, I have never heard Danny Carey do anything that John Bohnam can't do, maybe the double bass madness, but Bonzo played with a single kicker.
That's very laughable. Carey does far more diverse and creative things than Bonham has ever done. Double bass is just one of those things. Danny Carey's coordination FAR, FAR surpasses Bonham. Have you ever watched some live video of Carey? Carey is one of the most coordinated drummers in rock. I just don't think you know enough about playing drums to realize that Carey is far surperior to Bonham on every level.
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That's very laughable. Carey does far more diverse and creative things than Bonham has ever done. Double bass is just one of those things. Danny Carey's coordination FAR, FAR surpasses Bonham. Have you ever watched some live video of Carey? Carey is one of the most coordinated drummers in rock. I just don't think you know enough about playing drums to realize that Carey is far surperior to Bonham on every level.
I agree 100% with the Bonham part, but not with The Beatles. I think The Beatles and Elvis are far and away the greatest rock artists ever. There will never be another band/solo artist as big as they were and that did a whole lot for music.
I think Bonham is the most overated drummer by far. Sure hes got plenty of skill, but he can't be compared to Carey, Peart, Cobham, Bozzio and several others who are FAR superior at the drums. I can agree that Bonham is certainly a drumming legend, and possibly the most important rock drummer, but he in no way shape or form is the best drummer skill wise, even though sadly, some Zep fans will disagree.
Just my opinion.
Just because someone is pioneering in their field doesn't mean they are the best at what they do. I'm sure there are plenty of computer geeks who far surpass Bill Gates in their skills, but people aren't going to talk about them, cause he revolutionised computing. Buddy Holly and many others came before the Beatles, but they happened to be the right band in the right place at the right time, and so they will always be remembered as 'the best' - doesn't mean it's true. I hear more Zeppelin in modern rock than I do Beatles, but they won't be seen as important becasue the beatles came first.
give cryptopsy a listen. You will probably loathe the vocals and probably the rest of it too but Flo has all the chops of Neil Peart played at 3 times the speed
I think the allure of calling Dave Grohl a great drummer has more to do with how hard he hits the skins and the amazing production that he gets on his drum tracks.
Same thing with Lars Ulrich--except the fact that he's a douche bag. I remember listening to Hero Of the Day (from Load) and thinking "what a great song they've made here. It's too bad Lars fucked it up by drumming exactly how he does in every other song."
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John Bonham
Keith Moon
Neil Peart
Terry Bozzio
Jimmy Chamberlin
Danny Carey
I can't believe nobody's mentioned Stephen Perkins (Jane's and Porno)?!
Tre' Cool is actually one of the most underrated drummers and I'm not even a diehard Greenday fan.
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Carey does far more diverse and creative things than Bonham has ever done. Double bass is just one of those things. Danny Carey's coordination FAR, FAR surpasses Bonham. Have you ever watched some live video of Carey? Carey is one of the most coordinated drummers in rock. I just don't think you know enough about playing drums to realize that Carey is far surperior to Bonham on every level.
I completely respect your view JamnPearl, but your perspective is slightly flawed. We will never know exactly how coordinated John Bonham could be because he was completely shitfaced whenever he was drumming!
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I completely respect your view JamnPearl, but your perspective is slightly flawed. We will never know exactly how coordinated John Bonham could be because he was completely shitfaced whenever he was drumming!
Just because someone is pioneering in their field doesn't mean they are the best at what they do. I'm sure there are plenty of computer geeks who far surpass Bill Gates in their skills, but people aren't going to talk about them, cause he revolutionised computing. Buddy Holly and many others came before the Beatles, but they happened to be the right band in the right place at the right time, and so they will always be remembered as 'the best' - doesn't mean it's true. I hear more Zeppelin in modern rock than I do Beatles, but they won't be seen as important becasue the beatles came first.
I think you are getting what i'm saying mixed up. I'm not saying Carey is known as the greatest rock drummer, i'm talking purely skill. Of course Bonham is one of the most well known drummers, can't deny that. He certainly is a more important drummer than Carey is or ever will be. The thing i'm saying is, is that Carey's skill on the drumset far surpases anything Bonham ever did.
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I think you are getting what i'm saying mixed up. I'm not saying Carey is known as the greatest rock drummer, i'm talking purely skill. Of course Bonham is one of the most well known drummers, can't deny that. He certainly is a more important drummer than Carey is or ever will be. The thing i'm saying is, is that Carey's skill on the drumset far surpases anything Bonham ever did.
Yeah i think we're on the same page in terms of drummers, it was the Beatles thing that I didn't agree with - me going off on a tangent......
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I'll agree that he is not one of the best, but he is THE BEST part of Blink 182. Blink live are just awful. When I saw them, I thought to myself pretty sad the drummer is the best part.
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couldn't agree more.
That's very laughable. Carey does far more diverse and creative things than Bonham has ever done. Double bass is just one of those things. Danny Carey's coordination FAR, FAR surpasses Bonham. Have you ever watched some live video of Carey? Carey is one of the most coordinated drummers in rock. I just don't think you know enough about playing drums to realize that Carey is far surperior to Bonham on every level.
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2006 - E. Ruth I & II 2007 - Lollapalooza
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2010 - Newark, MSG I & II
And flo beats the shit out of carey
Of course he does.......
Just because someone is pioneering in their field doesn't mean they are the best at what they do. I'm sure there are plenty of computer geeks who far surpass Bill Gates in their skills, but people aren't going to talk about them, cause he revolutionised computing. Buddy Holly and many others came before the Beatles, but they happened to be the right band in the right place at the right time, and so they will always be remembered as 'the best' - doesn't mean it's true. I hear more Zeppelin in modern rock than I do Beatles, but they won't be seen as important becasue the beatles came first.
give cryptopsy a listen. You will probably loathe the vocals and probably the rest of it too but Flo has all the chops of Neil Peart played at 3 times the speed
Same thing with Lars Ulrich--except the fact that he's a douche bag. I remember listening to Hero Of the Day (from Load) and thinking "what a great song they've made here. It's too bad Lars fucked it up by drumming exactly how he does in every other song."
list (no order):
John Bonham
Keith Moon
Neil Peart
Terry Bozzio
Jimmy Chamberlin
Danny Carey
I can't believe nobody's mentioned Stephen Perkins (Jane's and Porno)?!
Tre' Cool is actually one of the most underrated drummers and I'm not even a diehard Greenday fan.
dig a hole in, the garden
I completely respect your view JamnPearl, but your perspective is slightly flawed. We will never know exactly how coordinated John Bonham could be because he was completely shitfaced whenever he was drumming!
dig a hole in, the garden
That's a really fair way to judge it...
Lets all make exceptions and excuses...
I think you are getting what i'm saying mixed up. I'm not saying Carey is known as the greatest rock drummer, i'm talking purely skill. Of course Bonham is one of the most well known drummers, can't deny that. He certainly is a more important drummer than Carey is or ever will be. The thing i'm saying is, is that Carey's skill on the drumset far surpases anything Bonham ever did.
He was fun to watch, i really like modest mouse's drummer he reazlly compliments the raw guitar work of the band.
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Honorable mentions from me to Carl Palmer of ELP... technically one of the best ever, and DJ Bonebrake of X... strong, creative, awesome.
I've also been impressed by Tre Cool though I've never seen Greenday live... I do think he's got it going on though.
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Chambers is pretty sick...most rock drummers are ok. Moon is the sloppiest "with style" drummer I've heard. I think it was the drugs doing it
It really depends of style of music.. most Rock drumming is pretty boring really.
Jazz & funk that stuff gets me going on the kit... rock is just boom boom boom
But whaddaya gonna do when all you wanna do is rock out?
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Yeah i think we're on the same page in terms of drummers, it was the Beatles thing that I didn't agree with - me going off on a tangent......
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