A Thready for Musical Blasphemy You Truly Believe

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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    Peter André is the second coming of Jesus Christ! :D
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    You have to BELIEVE it! :D

    did he give you some kind of sign boys? ;):p:D
    hear my name
    take a good look
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    i just need to say
  • PearlJamaholic
    PearlJamaholic Posts: 2,019
    comfortably numb wrote:
    Please Let Me Wonder is the best Beach Boys song.

    Paul Westerberg's songs are the best songs on the Singles Soundtrack

    mine are boring.

    without paul there wouldnt have been grunge, so there wouldnt have been a singles soundtrack. ok solat is one of my favorite songs, breath not so much. but i think i agree with you.

    maybe this is blasphemy but the replacements are the most influential rock band of the 80's (im also a huge pixies fans, but come on. i dont hear the pixies in as much 90's music as the replacements)
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  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    catefrances wrote:
    did he give you some kind of sign boys? ;):p:D

    And Cate provides the joke's salvation. How fitting. :D
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  • Housing Jim
    Housing Jim Posts: 644
    To me, Arcade Fire just sound like a bunch of people banging unrythmically on some drums and warbling out of tune
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  • riffrandall
    riffrandall Posts: 685
    Eric Burdon, not Neil Young, is the Godfather of Grunge.
    "If you're looking for someone to pull you out of that ditch, you're out of luck."
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    PearlJamaholic wrote:
    without paul there wouldnt have been grunge, so there wouldnt have been a singles soundtrack. ok solat is one of my favorite songs, breath not so much. but i think i agree with you.

    maybe this is blasphemy but the replacements are the most influential rock band of the 80's (im also a huge pixies fans, but come on. i dont hear the pixies in as much 90's music as the replacements)
    The Replacements are certainly one of the best bands of the 80s. Not sure if they were more influential than the pixies though, though I definitely prefer The 'Mats. Let it Be is a masterpiece. Certainly 100 times better than the Beatles album they cheekily ripped the name from.
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  • elmer
    elmer Posts: 1,683
    I truly believe Jewel's 'Pieces of You' album to be amongst the finest of the 90's. What went after, that's inexcusable.
  • smithnic
    smithnic Posts: 1,565
    I really don't like the Kinks
    Bob Marley and The Doors may be tied for the most over-rated performers/bands ever
    I like a lot of emo (New Found Glory & Dashboard)
    Go Get 'Em Tigers!
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    smithnic wrote:
    I really don't like the Kinks
    Bob Marley and The Doors may be tied for the most over-rated performers/bands ever
    I like a lot of emo (New Found Glory & Dashboard)
    This isn't musical blasphemy, just a widely ignored truth. New Found Glory, Dashboard Confessional, MCRFALLOUTBOYPANICATTHEDISCOTHEUSED30SECONDSTOMARS these band's ARE NOT EMO!

    :D I don't mean to be an ass, I really don't but I'm a massive fan of 80s/90s american punk, including emocore as it used to be known and the confusion about what emo is really bugs me. If I told someone the truth and said I liked emo they'd be like "what the fuck? like Panic! At The Disco?" When in fact I'm talking bands like Rites of Spring, Saetia, Indian Summer, Rain and City of Caterpillar.

    "Emo (pronounced /ˈiːmoʊ/) is a style of rock music which describes several independent variations of music with common stylistic roots. As such, use of the term has been the subject of much debate. In the mid-1980s, the term emo described a subgenre of hardcore punk which originated in the Washington, D.C. music scene. In later years, the term emocore, short for "emotional hardcore", was also used to describe the emotional performances of bands in the Washington, D.C. scene and some of the offshoot regional scenes such as Rites of Spring, Embrace, One Last Wish, Beefeater, Gray Matter, Fire Party, and later, Moss Icon. (In more recent years, the term "emotive hardcore" entered the lexicon to describe the period.)

    Starting in the mid-1990s, the term emo began to refer to the indie scene that followed the influences of Fugazi, which itself was an offshoot of the first wave of emo. Bands including Sunny Day Real Estate and Texas Is the Reason had a more indie rock style of emo, more melodic and less chaotic. The so-called "indie emo" scene survived until the late 1990s, as many of the bands either disbanded or shifted to mainstream styles. As the remaining indie emo bands entered the mainstream, newer bands began to emulate the mainstream style. As a result, the term "emo" became a vaguely defined identifier rather than a specific genre of music."


    None of the bands that currently get called emo (apart from the underground bands who really do still have hardcore elements) are emo in the slightest. This is REAL Emo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLdIGQ-OJcg&feature=related

    although admittedly even back then in 1985 none of the bands liked the term and just called themselves punk.
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  • Kann
    Kann Posts: 1,146
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    None of the bands that currently get called emo (apart from the underground bands who really do still have hardcore elements) are emo in the slightest.
    So basically almost everyone is wrong for calling stuff like mcr, panic at the disco, fallout boy... emo? Things change, maybe emo wasn't used for bands like these in 1985 but 23 years later a majority of people use emo to qualify these bands.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Kann wrote:
    So basically almost everyone is wrong for calling stuff like mcr, panic at the disco, fallout boy... emo? Things change, maybe emo wasn't used for bands like these in 1985 but 23 years later a majority of people use emo to qualify these bands.
    Yes they do but erroneously. I mean, Emo is short for Emocore or Emotional Hardcore. Hardcore punk with more emotion apparently. None of the bands liked the term but it was a legitimate genre name for a lot of bands with similar sounds who were part of a particular musical scene. These days P!ATD sound nothing like 30 Seconds to Mars for instance but both get called emo and they certainly have no hardcore punk in them and bear no relation to the old music.

    It's like in 10 years calling Metallica Brutal Death Metal and just saying that the genre developed. Development or not, if Cryptopsy were brutal death metal than Metallica never will be.

    This is why genres are irrelevant. They're just misleading.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/XxprettygirlxX920/EMO.jpg


    Nuff said.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/XxprettygirlxX920/EMO.jpg


    Nuff said.
    Hah yeah, that's what Ian MacKaye, founder of the supposed first emo band (and a brilliant one too) said. He just said "we are a punk band. what the fuck is emotive hardcore? are people saying that Bad Brains weren't emotional? When I hear Emo I think of Emo Phillips"

    Course at least the music that was being, erroneously or not, called emo back then was awesome as opposed to what is given the label these days. I enjoy Fall Out Boy as a pop band but seriously, what is particularly emotional or at all hardcore about them? :D Pop punk all the way.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • boroff89
    boroff89 Posts: 786
    Kann wrote:
    So basically almost everyone is wrong for calling stuff like mcr, panic at the disco, fallout boy... emo? Things change, maybe emo wasn't used for bands like these in 1985 but 23 years later a majority of people use emo to qualify these bands.

    Yes. The people who throw the term around on this board and in most places have no clue what the term means. It is used by most as an attack against bands that apparently are not masculine enough. Thematically, the songs of bands like Dashboard Confessional aren't any different from the songs of blues artists. Heartbreak has long been a focus of songs, poems, books, movies. . .

    None of the bands that get tagged with the EMO label accept it as meaningful or representative of their music. There is no consistency in terms of which bands receive the label. It has just become the catch-all term for modern post-punk bands that people don't like or are too insecure to actually try listening to.
    It makes much more sense to live in the present tense.
  • PearlJamaholic
    PearlJamaholic Posts: 2,019
    boroff89 wrote:
    Yes. The people who throw the term around on this board and in most places have no clue what the term means. It is used by most as an attack against bands that apparently are not masculine enough. Thematically, the songs of bands like Dashboard Confessional aren't any different from the songs of blues artists. Heartbreak has long been a focus of songs, poems, books, movies. . .

    None of the bands that get tagged with the EMO label accept it as meaningful or representative of their music. There is no consistency in terms of which bands receive the label. It has just become the catch-all term for modern post-punk bands that people don't like or are too insecure to actually try listening to.

    there was also no consistency in grunge music either. i think 'emo' is used more of a scene term than a musical one.

    aic and nirvana sounded nothing alike. nor did mudhoney and soundgarden, yet all grunge.

    so i think emo today is used for what manly man would call 'whining music.' if pj wrote nothing but songs like black, nothingman, and parting ways and just came out today they would be 'emo' too. same with jar of flies if that was a 2001 release and not a 1993 one people would be calling it 'emo'.

    i dont think 'emo' music has anything to do with music style nor even fashion style but songs precieved subject matter. so maybe emo in the old days was hardcore. rock in the old days was elvis and buddy holly. some times terms carry over to other genres to represent their times.
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  • smithnic
    smithnic Posts: 1,565
    I was using the popular term that millions of people know as "emo" what you're talking about was co-opted for a largely bad musical genre, but by and large is a tiny sect of music. I like Bad Brains but have never heard of any of the other bands and they are small.
    You can climb off your soapbox now that you've proven how cool you are listening to bands no one knows.
    Go Get 'Em Tigers!
  • PearlJamaholic
    PearlJamaholic Posts: 2,019
    Jellyrolls wrote:
    The Velvet Underground, while decent, were/are so so so overrated it's not even funny.

    now thats blasphemy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • smithnic
    smithnic Posts: 1,565
    PearlJamaholic wrote:
    now thats blasphemy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    no that's truth.
    they aren't very good. They are three guys who found fame in the 80's and now want it back (i.e. they are having the contest to find a new singer)
    Go Get 'Em Tigers!
  • PearlJamaholic
    PearlJamaholic Posts: 2,019
    smithnic wrote:
    no that's truth.
    they aren't very good. They are three guys who found fame in the 80's and now want it back (i.e. they are having the contest to find a new singer)

    are we thinking of the same band? vu was a 60's band. and you forgot about moe she was part of the band.
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  • smithnic
    smithnic Posts: 1,565
    PearlJamaholic wrote:
    are we thinking of the same band? vu was a 60's band. and you forgot about moe she was part of the band.


    yeah I had a brainfart, I thought it was Velvet revolver

    VU was awesome and you're absolutely right!!!
    Go Get 'Em Tigers!

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