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    rival.rival. Chicago Posts: 7,776
    you have people literally traveling from all over the world to see pearl jam at the garden. i don't think those same people would go through those lengths to see them in boston.
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    MakingWavesMakingWaves Posts: 1,288
    MSG was my first choice for this tour but I just couldn't get the funds together. So Tampa for me.

    One day I will see them at The Garden though and I have a feeling it won't be overrated.
    Seeing visions of falling up somehow.

    Pensacola '94
    New Orleans '95
    Birmingham '98
    New Orleans '00
    New Orleans '03
    Tampa '08
    New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest
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    Fenway Park '18
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    Solat13Solat13 Philadelphia Posts: 6,996
    Now mind you, I didn't go to MSG 1 in 2003 so I won't be commenting on that, but I went to MSG 2 in 2003 and it was a real good show but it didn't really feel that special to me. I think part of the reason was that the arena was a little too hyped up for my expectations. I saw ten shows in 03 and MSG 2 for me personally wasn't in my top 5 that I went to.

    Things should be different this year though because I'll be on the floor instead of in section 131. So hopefully I'll get to see what makes the Garden "magical" because it just seemed like another show for me last time - a very, very good one, but nothing too special.

    (Before people start going off on me for being a New York hater, the Camden shows in 03 were 8th and 9th for me out of my ten shows that tour.)
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
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    vitodacatvitodacat Posts: 471
    fuck that!! Giants suck!! fucking fluke!! see what they do this season!!(bet they don't even make it past the first round of the playoffs,assuming they even make the playoffs)

    In my best Joe Buck voice...

    Manning...lobs it....Burress.....alone.....Touchdown New York !!


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    wont let the darkness swallow me
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    yeah..how about those Knicks? hahahahahahahahahahahaha

    Yankees? hahahahahahahahahahahaha

    Giants in '08-'09? hahahahahahahahahahahaha

    Jets? hahahahahahahahahahahahahah

    "Giants in 08-09"???????? Get over it bucko, They are your Super Bowl Champions!!!!
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    fuck that!! Giants suck!! fucking fluke!! see what they do this season!!(bet they don't even make it past the first round of the playoffs,assuming they even make the playoffs)

    Who cares what they do this year? They are the Champs Baby!!!!! You got nothing.

    Crazy Breed=EPIC LOSER WHEN IT COMES TO SPORTS TEAMS
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,340
    ok folks evryone should of gotten all the angnst out of their system now we can have a group hug .....:eek:
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    DanimalDanimal Posts: 2,000
    you have people literally traveling from all over the world to see pearl jam at the garden. i don't think those same people would go through those lengths to see them in boston.

    They sure do.
    "I don't believe in PJ fans but I believe there is something, not too sure what." - Thoughts_Arrive


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    MattyJoeMattyJoe Posts: 1,424
    pj0705 wrote:
    And NY fans arent?

    Nope.
    I pledge to you a government that will not only work well, but wisely, its ability to act tempered by prudence, and its willingness to do good, balanced by the knowledge that government is never more dangerous than when our desire to have it help us blinds us to its great power to harm us.
    -Reagan
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    Solat13 wrote:
    Now mind you, I didn't go to MSG 1 in 2003 so I won't be commenting on that, but I went to MSG 2 in 2003 and it was a real good show but it didn't really feel that special to me. I think part of the reason was that the arena was a little too hyped up for my expectations. I saw ten shows in 03 and MSG 2 for me personally wasn't in my top 5 that I went to.

    Things should be different this year though because I'll be on the floor instead of in section 131. So hopefully I'll get to see what makes the Garden "magical" because it just seemed like another show for me last time - a very, very good one, but nothing too special.

    (Before people start going off on me for being a New York hater, the Camden shows in 03 were 8th and 9th for me out of my ten shows that tour.)

    I think MSG II 2003 was actually a better setlist and better show then MSG I. As far as the special show feeling, it is all relative.

    You may not feel it, but others might. I was at a couple shows that should have been awesome but I was too drunk or hung over from the previous night (two consecutive nights are almost impossible for me to do with concerts these days) to really appreciate them.
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    jmccue7jmccue7 Posts: 119
    mansfield ≠ boston
    Merriweather '00
    East Troy '03
    Boston I '04
    Pittsburgh '06
    Lollapalooza '07
    DC '08
    MSG I & II '08
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    Crazy Breed=EPIC LOSER WHEN IT COMES TO SPORTS TEAMS


    did you forget about our WORLD CHAMPION RED SOX??

    and soon to be CELTICS??


    hailhailleatherman= dumb ass
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    MattyJoeMattyJoe Posts: 1,424
    It's funny, the Red Sox win 2 World Series titles in the last 89 years and now they're fans think they're the greatest team ever. And they can't accept the fact that the Giants outplayed the Patriots in the Superbowl. Giants beat the Cowboys and the Packers, two top seeded teams, before the Patriots. They didn't just get a lucky break.
    I pledge to you a government that will not only work well, but wisely, its ability to act tempered by prudence, and its willingness to do good, balanced by the knowledge that government is never more dangerous than when our desire to have it help us blinds us to its great power to harm us.
    -Reagan
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    CantKeepmedownCantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 2,927
    I hate all things NY (sports-wise, that is)

    But you can never pass up a chance to see PJ at MSG.

    35 shows, and 9-11-98 is my fave. My first time in the city and at the Garden. I've been back for every tour, and each time it's fantastic.

    I love giving Yankee fans' shit, but don't kid yourselves, anybody who's everybody wants to be at these shows.

    I'm just sad I won't be there this year :(
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    memememe Posts: 4,693
    pj0705 wrote:
    Im sure the crowds are great, I wont dispute, but honestly, I havent seen anything too special in any of the past setlists. Yes, I know about Breath in 98. I just think they have uninspired setlists. I fully expect the 2 Boston shows to have more unique setlists as per the usual, but everyone will be raving how they shook the garden during Evenflow.

    For me they will be special because I'll be able to go home by subway for the first time after a pearl jam show :p

    Also, the DVD they did was for an MSG show, not for a Boston show, wasn't it ;)
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
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    CantKeepmedownCantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 2,927
    MattyJoe wrote:
    It's funny, the Red Sox win 2 World Series titles in the last 89 years and now they're fans think they're the greatest team ever. And they can't accept the fact that the Giants outplayed the Patriots in the Superbowl. Giants beat the Cowboys and the Packers, two top seeded teams, before the Patriots. They didn't just get a lucky break.

    Well, the Pats did have the lead with 2 minutes to go, and were a CH away (both Samuel's near INT, and a sack of Eli) from winning it.

    But, you're right, the G-men did outplay "us" that night. Congrats to them.
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    MattyJoeMattyJoe Posts: 1,424
    pj0705 have you ever even BEEN to MSG? Every show there transforms into an amazing one. The energy there is like no where else I've ever been too.
    I pledge to you a government that will not only work well, but wisely, its ability to act tempered by prudence, and its willingness to do good, balanced by the knowledge that government is never more dangerous than when our desire to have it help us blinds us to its great power to harm us.
    -Reagan
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    Solat13Solat13 Philadelphia Posts: 6,996
    I think MSG II 2003 was actually a better setlist and better show then MSG I. As far as the special show feeling, it is all relative.

    You may not feel it, but others might. I was at a couple shows that should have been awesome but I was too drunk or hung over from the previous night (two consecutive nights are almost impossible for me to do with concerts these days) to really appreciate them.

    I thought it was a really good setlist, but like I said I think people had just hyped it up plus talking to all my friends who went to night 1 made expectations way too high for the show.

    That's why I'm going into the MSG shows this year with no expectations and if my socks get knocked off that will be awesome. :)

    And trust me - I wasn't drunk or hungover for the show. I never do that for PJ concerts.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
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    prince119prince119 Posts: 104
    Just my 2 cents as a guy that has never been to MSG for a show.

    I have to say that the "ultimate venue" to see my favorite band is NOT MSG. It is not the GORGE (where I have seen them 4 times). It is NOT any of the venues you would think of...........

    My ultimate venue that PJ could play would be places like The Whiskey, Wembley, The Showbox, CBGB's, places like that.......

    Most of them are smaller than MSG (except Wembley and I chose that because well..........its WEMBLEY!!!!!!!!!!!)

    But that is just me. I hope to one day see a show in MSG so I have a fair frame of reference. But I can not believe that a show in that venue alone would add up to the "ultimate"
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    DanimalDanimal Posts: 2,000
    meme wrote:
    For me they will be special because I'll be able to go home by subway for the first time after a pearl jam show :p

    Also, the DVD they did was for an MSG show, not for a Boston show, wasn't it ;)

    Yeah but that DVD stinks.
    "I don't believe in PJ fans but I believe there is something, not too sure what." - Thoughts_Arrive


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    MattyJoe wrote:
    It's funny, the Red Sox win 2 World Series titles in the last 89 years and now they're fans think they're the greatest team ever. And they can't accept the fact that the Giants outplayed the Patriots in the Superbowl. Giants beat the Cowboys and the Packers, two top seeded teams, before the Patriots. They didn't just get a lucky break.


    i don't really give 2 fucks about any of these teams to tell the truth,sports don't really mean shit.just a fun semi-distraction from the cunt bags in DC destroying our country and way of life.

    and as far as MSG goes, i would go see PJ play anywhere they go that i can afford to get to.the geographical location is irrelevant! they are just man made imaginary lines named after elite/rich douche-bags that could care less about any of us.
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    NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    Danimal wrote:
    Yeah but that DVD stinks.


    THE MANSFIELD DVD IS BETTER....
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    pjmaniacpjmaniac Posts: 45
    i don't really give 2 fucks about any of these teams to tell the truth,sports don't really mean shit.just a fun semi-distraction from the cunt bags in DC destroying our country and way of life.

    and as far as MSG goes, i would go see PJ play anywhere they go that i can afford to get to.the geographical location is irrelevant! they are just man made imaginary lines named after elite/rich douche-bags that could care less about any of us.

    Well said!
    8.29.00, 7.3.03, 7.11.03, 9.28.04, 9.29.04, 9.28.05, 5.13.06, 5.24.06, 5.25.06, 6.27.08, 6.28, 6.30.08
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    pjmaniacpjmaniac Posts: 45
    I hate all things NY (sports-wise, that is)

    But you can never pass up a chance to see PJ at MSG.

    35 shows, and 9-11-98 is my fave. My first time in the city and at the Garden. I've been back for every tour, and each time it's fantastic.

    I love giving Yankee fans' shit, but don't kid yourselves, anybody who's everybody wants to be at these shows.

    I'm just sad I won't be there this year :(

    I have a spare Chief, its yours if you want it.
    8.29.00, 7.3.03, 7.11.03, 9.28.04, 9.29.04, 9.28.05, 5.13.06, 5.24.06, 5.25.06, 6.27.08, 6.28, 6.30.08
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    did you forget about our WORLD CHAMPION RED SOX??

    and soon to be CELTICS??


    hailhailleatherman= dumb ass

    No, don't have a problem with the Sox or Celts? Was talking football, but now that I know you're just another crybaby Pats fan, I will just ignore you since you obviously have some denial issues that I can't help you with.

    Patriots= Epic Collapse
    Giants=Super Bowl Champs
    Crazy Breed=..................too easy and you just aren't worth the time.
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    DanimalDanimal Posts: 2,000
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    THE MANSFIELD DVD IS BETTER....

    Always on the defensive huh, Skippy?

    Hey it's only my opinion.
    "I don't believe in PJ fans but I believe there is something, not too sure what." - Thoughts_Arrive


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    NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    kids kids ,,,, lets cool down here

    all 4 shows will be the best of the tour (we wont count the beacon )

    but as for the venue itself ,,their is no debating

    that being said ,,their is a show tonight in wpb ,,lets enjoy

    (yes its really me trying to be the voice of reason) :)
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    jimed14jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    did you forget about our WORLD CHAMPION RED SOX??

    and soon to be CELTICS??


    hailhailleatherman= dumb ass

    well played, you realize, if the Celtics lose the series, every person from L.A. AND N.Y. will put this in there sig ... right? Hell, I might too.

    I'm a Bostonian (living in Cali now ... you know, "you can take the boy out of Boston, but you can't take Boston out of the boy. ") ... actually, was a week away from moving to NYC, plans changed, and now I'm on the west coast (someone insert "shut up hippie" here)

    Again, I think what you're hearing here ... as it is with Red Sox fans .... as it is with many things in life, is the vocal minority. 90% of us don't need to shit on NYC, there no need for it.

    Both are great cities ... both have had amazing PJ shows ... both have insanely solid histories with their sports teams. Why does one have to be better than the other? Who gives a shit? .... if you like where you are ... good ... stay there and shut it. No need to feel BETTER than someone else.

    I'll be hitting up my first MSG shows on this tour (I'll be the guy in the front row in the Red Sox hat you'll be throwing shit at ... c'mon lottery!) .... followed by shows 9 and 10 in Mansfield ...

    I'm psyched for all 4 ... and hope every show rocks all your damn faces off.

    Now, can't Boston and NY let their anger go and come together as one ....

    ...

    ...

    and then we can shit on everyone else, WE'LL BE INVINCIBLE! :D
    "You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91

    "I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
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    CantKeepmedownCantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 2,927
    pjmaniac wrote:
    I have a spare Chief, its yours if you want it.

    That is pretty damn tempting, but I just can't do it. I can't get the work time off.

    Looking forward to seeing you in Mansfield, though.

    Have fun.
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    NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    Danimal wrote:
    Always on the defensive huh, Skippy?

    Hey it's only my opinion.


    read post 88
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