i just got the cd and i must say i think it is really good. not sure which song is my favorite yet. will let it sink in a bit. flows really well and is awesome, imo.
lay down all thoughts; surrender to the void
~it is shining it is shining~
i think that Lyla is one of the weaker tracks off of the album. good album though. my favorite as of now is track 8, Guess God Thinks I'm Abel.
yeh i think so too...for me its the second worse track.
Guess God Thinks I'm Abel is a great song..but i wished the outro could have started a new verse to song instead of just being an outro
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I used to be a big Oasis fan back in 95-6, but I've gone off them more recently. I don't find their music very intelligent or inspiring.
I have heard Lyla once though, and it seems like a pretty good song to me.
their music isn't intellectual at all (although some of noel's lyrics are preddy good) but if you want good songwriting (albeit ripping off the beatles and stones lol) then noel is your man. one of the best of his generation........
heathen chemistry seems to get a bit of a bad rap but its preddy good i reckon. songs like songbird, little by little and stop crying your heart out are very good IMO.
The wind is blowing cold
Have we lost our way tonight?
Have we lost our hope to sorrow?
Feels like were all alone
Running further from what’s right
And there are no more heroes to follow
I used to be a big Oasis fan back in 95-6, but I've gone off them more recently. I don't find their music very intelligent or inspiring.
I have heard Lyla once though, and it seems like a pretty good song to me.
well that is true, oasis are certainly not that deep like say tori amos or the cure are deep but that's a good thing because the songs are catchy and stick in your head and that makes for an enjoyable band. if i just picked my music based on the intelligence of lyrics, i probably would get bored and miss out on a lot of cool bands.
'sometimes i have everything, yet i wish i felt something'
close this thread so that we can start to reserve some credibility once more. then we can deposit this credibility in an account that provides compound interest for the "act against established mediocricy".
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yeh they had the whole show on stream at some belgian radio site..sadly this is only bit of it i could find
Don't Believe The Truth has debuted at No.1 in the UK smashing other major release by The Black Eyed Peas which came in at No.4. Gorillaz falls to No.2.
Whats The Story Morning Glory has jumped 11 places to No.27, Definitely Maybe jumps 19 places to No.48 and Heathen Chemistry is No. 68.
not bad...older albums are still on the UK charts
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Guess God Thinks I'm Abel is a great song..but i wished the outro could have started a new verse to song instead of just being an outro
Totally agree - I said the same in a post earlier in this thread.
I think all of Liam's songs are too short but that one could really have done with the heavy outro continuing for a bit. As I said before, a missed opportunity.
I'm still amazed by Keep The Dream Alive. What's even more surprising is that it's an Andy Bell-penned track.
Best on the album in my humble opinion...
Decipher the illusion, know the facts but retain the magic.
Totally agree - I said the same in a post earlier in this thread.
I think all of Liam's songs are too short but that one could really have done with the heavy outro continuing for a bit. As I said before, a missed opportunity.
I'm still amazed by Keep The Dream Alive. What's even more surprising is that it's an Andy Bell-penned track.
Best on the album in my humble opinion...
i kinda enjoy Andy Bell's tunes more than Gem's...im not that much a fan of Eyeball Tickler..but A Bell Will Ring is pretty good
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i kinda enjoy Andy Bell's tunes more than Gem's...im not that much a fan of Eyeball Tickler..but A Bell Will Ring is pretty good
I agree Gem's aren't the best but they are ok. If anything, A Bell Will Ring should be longer too.
I get the feeling that 4/5 of the songs off Truth have been finished in a slap-dash manner. It's almost as though (especially with Liam's songs) they couldn't be arsed writing a middle 8 or a bridge and just thought sod it that'll do - hence many songs are 3 minutes or under.
Don't get me wrong though - I still like the album and am giving it massive airplay in Casa Poison.
Can't believe I am conversing in a civil manner with a Liverpool fan...
Decipher the illusion, know the facts but retain the magic.
I agree Gem's aren't the best but they are ok. If anything, A Bell Will Ring should be longer too.
I get the feeling that 4/5 of the songs off Truth have been finished in a slap-dash manner. It's almost as though (especially with Liam's songs) they couldn't be arsed writing a middle 8 or a bridge and just thought sod it that'll do - hence many songs are 3 minutes or under.
Don't get me wrong though - I still like the album and am giving it massive airplay in Casa Poison.
Can't believe I am conversing in a civil manner with a Liverpool fan...
yeh the songs were abit too short...but for The Meaning of Soul..i think the length for that was just about right.
another Evertonian? lol
thought blue mosquito was the only one here
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I may be wrong, but there appear to be a lot more keyboards on this album than in previous ones. It will be interesting to see if they include them in live versions. I haven't listened to that live version of "Turn Up the Sun" yet. Do they have some hired gun playing the keys?
I'm getting amped to see them in Mass later this month.
It is time to admit that we used to rock like hurricanes. It is time to run for the hills and go round and round. It is time for us to shout at the devil. We've got the right to choose it, there ain't no way we'll lose it, and we're not gonna take it anymore.
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I may be wrong, but there appear to be a lot more keyboards on this album than in previous ones. It will be interesting to see if they include them in live versions. I haven't listened to that live version of "Turn Up the Sun" yet. Do they have some hired gun playing the keys?
I'm getting amped to see them in Mass later this month.
if im not wrong..since the Morning Glory days..they have had a guy playing keys
just read that this album is the first UK band album to hit number 1 in Japan since the Bay City Rollers in 1977! not too bad
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My mate loves oasis. but he says this album is shit.
i, however, think all their songs are shit, every single one of them.
"I am a doughnut." (live - Berlin, Germany - 11/03/96)
"Behave like rock stars - not like the President." (live - Noblesville, IN - 8/17/98)
--Ed
"Yeah, I was gonna learn to play it (Breath) but somebody slipped me a bottle of viagra and was busy doing something else six times last night" (live - New York, NY - 9/10/98)
My mate loves oasis. but he says this album is shit.
i, however, think all their songs are shit, every single one of them.
Wonderful! Another one of these comments! You and glasshouse and the rest of the shit talkers can go post in the "hatred and vitriol" thread and pat yourselves on the back. We'll continue discussing this album over here. Thanks for your contribution.
It is time to admit that we used to rock like hurricanes. It is time to run for the hills and go round and round. It is time for us to shout at the devil. We've got the right to choose it, there ain't no way we'll lose it, and we're not gonna take it anymore.
- C. Klosterman
Wonderful! Another one of these comments! You and glasshouse and the rest of the shit talkers can go post in the "hatred and vitriol" thread and pat yourselves on the back. We'll continue discussing this album over here. Thanks for your contribution.
lol theres too much hate in this board..all i see are threads and polls about which band,singer etc who is the most hated...now its why hate coldplay and U2...im not a fan of most bands people like here..but you dont see me going to a Coldplay thread and saying they suck.
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Wonderful! Another one of these comments! You and glasshouse and the rest of the shit talkers can go post in the "hatred and vitriol" thread and pat yourselves on the back. We'll continue discussing this album over here. Thanks for your contribution.
Well said sir.
That is indeed the purpose of the vitriol thread - to allow people to vent their spleens in a place dedicated to negativity, as opposed to ruining perfectly good conversation with comments intended to inflame and annoy.
The problem is though, someone has just posted in there that they hate Oasis...
Decipher the illusion, know the facts but retain the magic.
That is indeed the purpose of the vitriol thread - to allow people to vent their spleens in a place dedicated to negativity, as opposed to ruining perfectly good conversation with comments intended to inflame and annoy.
The problem is though, someone has just posted in there that they hate Oasis...
yeh i kinda ignored that lol..im used to people bashing everyone i admire...especially Oasis,Lars Ulrich and Axl Rose...and more recently Perry Farrell :(
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yeh i kinda ignored that lol..im used to people bashing everyone i admire...especially Oasis,Lars Ulrich and Axl Rose...and more recently Perry Farrell :(
Well I for one have a lot of time for all those guys.
Decipher the illusion, know the facts but retain the magic.
So, in a discussion about the new Oasis album, no one is allowed to say its crap?
"I am a doughnut." (live - Berlin, Germany - 11/03/96)
"Behave like rock stars - not like the President." (live - Noblesville, IN - 8/17/98)
--Ed
"Yeah, I was gonna learn to play it (Breath) but somebody slipped me a bottle of viagra and was busy doing something else six times last night" (live - New York, NY - 9/10/98)
So, in a discussion about the new Oasis album, no one is allowed to say its crap?
nah no one's saying that, i mean if you listened to it objectively and really can't stand it and you post a review of why you didn't like it, I mean that's fine. I haven't bought the album yet so i like reading about what tracks worked on the album and which didn't. that's cool.
however, the people that just come on and insult oasis and their fans just to start fights, not cool. when i read this thread i want to hear opinions about the album, i don't want to read bullshit about liam and noel's attitudes because i don't care about that and it deviates from the topic.
'sometimes i have everything, yet i wish i felt something'
Oasis. Well, well, well.
Back in the mid 1990's, there was a time when bands like Oasis roamed the earth. It was a time of increased machoism, and the 'lad' culture was newly born, fuelled by increased popularity in footall (EURO 96 helped), laddettes (Zoe Ball, Sara Cox), New Labour, Lad magazines (Loaded, FHM) and indie (Bands like Oasis, Blue, Stone Roses, OCS etc). The music defined an age, edgy, fashionable, rocky and sensitive. It was in this musical landscape that Oasis thrived, playing up on the age, by staging massive outdoor concerts, being drunk all the time, hanging out with Blair and being seen at all the right parties. Their music at this time was good too, properly rocking, with riffs, and the ballads were excellent.
However, Oasis' third record, signalled the end of the lad movement. Be Here Now was a terrible record, comprising not a single new tune, and moments of gross self indulgence (All Around The World, Do You Know What I Mean). As the other bands of that era have either disappeared, or reinvented themselves (Blur, Radiohead), Oasis have clung desparately to their past glories, still swearing and acting all cocky in interviews, which just sound stupid when they're all approaching their 40's.
Their records since this time, have all been largely dissappointing affairs, with only a trace of their former glories (Stop Crying Your Heart Out), overshadowed by the huge amounts of dross (Lyla).
With new bands challenging our perceptions of 'popular' music, and the mainstream sound getting heavier and heavier, Oasis are just embarrassing, to the large population of Britain, an embarrassment.
Of course, Oasis are shit would have been quicker.
"I am a doughnut." (live - Berlin, Germany - 11/03/96)
"Behave like rock stars - not like the President." (live - Noblesville, IN - 8/17/98)
--Ed
"Yeah, I was gonna learn to play it (Breath) but somebody slipped me a bottle of viagra and was busy doing something else six times last night" (live - New York, NY - 9/10/98)
Oasis. Well, well, well.
Back in the mid 1990's, there was a time when bands like Oasis roamed the earth. It was a time of increased machoism, and the 'lad' culture was newly born, fuelled by increased popularity in footall (EURO 96 helped), laddettes (Zoe Ball, Sara Cox), New Labour, Lad magazines (Loaded, FHM) and indie (Bands like Oasis, Blue, Stone Roses, OCS etc). The music defined an age, edgy, fashionable, rocky and sensitive. It was in this musical landscape that Oasis thrived, playing up on the age, by staging massive outdoor concerts, being drunk all the time, hanging out with Blair and being seen at all the right parties. Their music at this time was good too, properly rocking, with riffs, and the ballads were excellent.
However, Oasis' third record, signalled the end of the lad movement. Be Here Now was a terrible record, comprising not a single new tune, and moments of gross self indulgence (All Around The World, Do You Know What I Mean). As the other bands of that era have either disappeared, or reinvented themselves (Blur, Radiohead), Oasis have clung desparately to their past glories, still swearing and acting all cocky in interviews, which just sound stupid when they're all approaching their 40's.
Their records since this time, have all been largely dissappointing affairs, with only a trace of their former glories (Stop Crying Your Heart Out), overshadowed by the huge amounts of dross (Lyla).
With new bands challenging our perceptions of 'popular' music, and the mainstream sound getting heavier and heavier, Oasis are just embarrassing, to the large population of Britain, an embarrassment.
Of course, Oasis are shit would have been quicker.
I think one of the reasons for their emergence and initial popularity was that they were a complete opposite to the shoe-gazing, "our fans are idiots" and "I don't want to be famous" attitudes of their Grunge counterparts, thus were a welcome change. Oasis wanted it all.
The main reason though, was that they had great songs. Live Forever, Slide Away, Cast No Shadow, Wonderwall, Whatever - to name but a few of their earlier work. Never mind the oft-quoted superior B Sides that they virtually threw away.
I will agree that their music has been in decline somewhat since Morning Glory but firmly believe they still add gems to an already stagnant music scene in this country. Some often judge them by their own earlier and higher standards and I would agree, using this yardstick, they fail to reach those vertigo-inducing heights.
However, they still deserve our attention and I for one, believe this new album to be somewhat of a resurgence.
Of course, saying Oasis are still pretty great would have been quicker...
Decipher the illusion, know the facts but retain the magic.
I think one of the reasons for their emergence and initial popularity was that they were a complete opposite to the shoe-gazing, "our fans are idiots" and "I don't want to be famous" attitudes of their Grunge counterparts, thus were a welcome change. Oasis wanted it all.
The main reason though, was that they had great songs. Live Forever, Slide Away, Cast No Shadow, Wonderwall, Whatever - to name but a few of their earlier work. Never mind the oft-quoted superior B Sides that they virtually threw away.
I will agree that their music has been in decline somewhat since Morning Glory but firmly believe they still add gems to an already stagnant music scene in this country. Some often judge them by their own earlier and higher standards and I would agree, using this yardstick, they fail to reach those vertigo-inducing heights.
However, they still deserve our attention and I for one, believe this new album to be somewhat of a resurgence.
Of course, saying Oasis are still pretty great would have been quicker...
Cast No Shadow was good, I'll give you that.
"I am a doughnut." (live - Berlin, Germany - 11/03/96)
"Behave like rock stars - not like the President." (live - Noblesville, IN - 8/17/98)
--Ed
"Yeah, I was gonna learn to play it (Breath) but somebody slipped me a bottle of viagra and was busy doing something else six times last night" (live - New York, NY - 9/10/98)
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i think that Lyla is one of the weaker tracks off of the album. good album though. my favorite as of now is track 8, Guess God Thinks I'm Abel.
~it is shining it is shining~
Guess God Thinks I'm Abel is a great song..but i wished the outro could have started a new verse to song instead of just being an outro
Walk on with hope in your heart
YNWA
their music isn't intellectual at all (although some of noel's lyrics are preddy good) but if you want good songwriting (albeit ripping off the beatles and stones lol) then noel is your man. one of the best of his generation........
heathen chemistry seems to get a bit of a bad rap but its preddy good i reckon. songs like songbird, little by little and stop crying your heart out are very good IMO.
Have we lost our way tonight?
Have we lost our hope to sorrow?
Feels like were all alone
Running further from what’s right
And there are no more heroes to follow
So what are we becoming?
Where did we go wrong?
well that is true, oasis are certainly not that deep like say tori amos or the cure are deep but that's a good thing because the songs are catchy and stick in your head and that makes for an enjoyable band. if i just picked my music based on the intelligence of lyrics, i probably would get bored and miss out on a lot of cool bands.
"Call me Ishmael. Some years ago- never mind how long precisely- having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world." Herman Melville : Moby Dick
~it is shining it is shining~
heres a link to Turn Up the Sun Live from Brussels
Walk on with hope in your heart
YNWA
thanks!!!!
~it is shining it is shining~
Don't Believe The Truth has debuted at No.1 in the UK smashing other major release by The Black Eyed Peas which came in at No.4. Gorillaz falls to No.2.
Whats The Story Morning Glory has jumped 11 places to No.27, Definitely Maybe jumps 19 places to No.48 and Heathen Chemistry is No. 68.
not bad...older albums are still on the UK charts
Walk on with hope in your heart
YNWA
Totally agree - I said the same in a post earlier in this thread.
I think all of Liam's songs are too short but that one could really have done with the heavy outro continuing for a bit. As I said before, a missed opportunity.
I'm still amazed by Keep The Dream Alive. What's even more surprising is that it's an Andy Bell-penned track.
Best on the album in my humble opinion...
Walk on with hope in your heart
YNWA
I agree Gem's aren't the best but they are ok. If anything, A Bell Will Ring should be longer too.
I get the feeling that 4/5 of the songs off Truth have been finished in a slap-dash manner. It's almost as though (especially with Liam's songs) they couldn't be arsed writing a middle 8 or a bridge and just thought sod it that'll do - hence many songs are 3 minutes or under.
Don't get me wrong though - I still like the album and am giving it massive airplay in Casa Poison.
Can't believe I am conversing in a civil manner with a Liverpool fan...
another Evertonian? lol
thought blue mosquito was the only one here
Walk on with hope in your heart
YNWA
I agree with Meaning of Soul because that's the kind of song it is.
However, we are already in agreement about Guess God Thinks I'm Abel and I reckon A Bell Will Ring and Love Like A Bomb could be longer too.
It just seems to me that when you buy an album with 11 songs on, you expect it to be longer than 43 minutes.
Maybe there should have been an extra song on it.
I am indeed an Evertonian.
I reckon Steven Gerrard will wait until he finds out if you are in The Champions League or not. If you aint, he's gone...
I'm getting amped to see them in Mass later this month.
- C. Klosterman
just read that this album is the first UK band album to hit number 1 in Japan since the Bay City Rollers in 1977! not too bad
Walk on with hope in your heart
YNWA
i, however, think all their songs are shit, every single one of them.
"Behave like rock stars - not like the President." (live - Noblesville, IN - 8/17/98)
--Ed
"Yeah, I was gonna learn to play it (Breath) but somebody slipped me a bottle of viagra and was busy doing something else six times last night" (live - New York, NY - 9/10/98)
--Ed
Wonderful! Another one of these comments! You and glasshouse and the rest of the shit talkers can go post in the "hatred and vitriol" thread and pat yourselves on the back. We'll continue discussing this album over here. Thanks for your contribution.
- C. Klosterman
Walk on with hope in your heart
YNWA
Well said sir.
That is indeed the purpose of the vitriol thread - to allow people to vent their spleens in a place dedicated to negativity, as opposed to ruining perfectly good conversation with comments intended to inflame and annoy.
The problem is though, someone has just posted in there that they hate Oasis...
Walk on with hope in your heart
YNWA
Well I for one have a lot of time for all those guys.
"Behave like rock stars - not like the President." (live - Noblesville, IN - 8/17/98)
--Ed
"Yeah, I was gonna learn to play it (Breath) but somebody slipped me a bottle of viagra and was busy doing something else six times last night" (live - New York, NY - 9/10/98)
--Ed
Fair enough - post that if you want to.
I think merely lambasting a band is more likely to incense people though, whereas a well thought-out critique is a lot more pallatable and agreeable.
nah no one's saying that, i mean if you listened to it objectively and really can't stand it and you post a review of why you didn't like it, I mean that's fine. I haven't bought the album yet so i like reading about what tracks worked on the album and which didn't. that's cool.
however, the people that just come on and insult oasis and their fans just to start fights, not cool. when i read this thread i want to hear opinions about the album, i don't want to read bullshit about liam and noel's attitudes because i don't care about that and it deviates from the topic.
Back in the mid 1990's, there was a time when bands like Oasis roamed the earth. It was a time of increased machoism, and the 'lad' culture was newly born, fuelled by increased popularity in footall (EURO 96 helped), laddettes (Zoe Ball, Sara Cox), New Labour, Lad magazines (Loaded, FHM) and indie (Bands like Oasis, Blue, Stone Roses, OCS etc). The music defined an age, edgy, fashionable, rocky and sensitive. It was in this musical landscape that Oasis thrived, playing up on the age, by staging massive outdoor concerts, being drunk all the time, hanging out with Blair and being seen at all the right parties. Their music at this time was good too, properly rocking, with riffs, and the ballads were excellent.
However, Oasis' third record, signalled the end of the lad movement. Be Here Now was a terrible record, comprising not a single new tune, and moments of gross self indulgence (All Around The World, Do You Know What I Mean). As the other bands of that era have either disappeared, or reinvented themselves (Blur, Radiohead), Oasis have clung desparately to their past glories, still swearing and acting all cocky in interviews, which just sound stupid when they're all approaching their 40's.
Their records since this time, have all been largely dissappointing affairs, with only a trace of their former glories (Stop Crying Your Heart Out), overshadowed by the huge amounts of dross (Lyla).
With new bands challenging our perceptions of 'popular' music, and the mainstream sound getting heavier and heavier, Oasis are just embarrassing, to the large population of Britain, an embarrassment.
Of course, Oasis are shit would have been quicker.
"Behave like rock stars - not like the President." (live - Noblesville, IN - 8/17/98)
--Ed
"Yeah, I was gonna learn to play it (Breath) but somebody slipped me a bottle of viagra and was busy doing something else six times last night" (live - New York, NY - 9/10/98)
--Ed
~it is shining it is shining~
I think one of the reasons for their emergence and initial popularity was that they were a complete opposite to the shoe-gazing, "our fans are idiots" and "I don't want to be famous" attitudes of their Grunge counterparts, thus were a welcome change. Oasis wanted it all.
The main reason though, was that they had great songs. Live Forever, Slide Away, Cast No Shadow, Wonderwall, Whatever - to name but a few of their earlier work. Never mind the oft-quoted superior B Sides that they virtually threw away.
I will agree that their music has been in decline somewhat since Morning Glory but firmly believe they still add gems to an already stagnant music scene in this country. Some often judge them by their own earlier and higher standards and I would agree, using this yardstick, they fail to reach those vertigo-inducing heights.
However, they still deserve our attention and I for one, believe this new album to be somewhat of a resurgence.
Of course, saying Oasis are still pretty great would have been quicker...
Cast No Shadow was good, I'll give you that.
"Behave like rock stars - not like the President." (live - Noblesville, IN - 8/17/98)
--Ed
"Yeah, I was gonna learn to play it (Breath) but somebody slipped me a bottle of viagra and was busy doing something else six times last night" (live - New York, NY - 9/10/98)
--Ed