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  • Flagg
    Flagg Posts: 5,856
    Just chiming in here. I'm planning on taking my 10-year-old son to his first PJ concert if that Dallas date in September is true. He loves Pearl Jam - wears the kid's PJ shirts to school, knows a lot of the lyrics, always wants to hear them in the car or "watch Mike play" on a DVD or something. He's been begging me to take him. I think he will be ready.

    He will have hearing protection and be forewarned that he may hear or see some things he is not used to seeing.

    Actually I am thinking of trying him out on the Black Crowes here in May. It is at the Taste of Addison festival and we could just hang in the back and not in the crowded area. He likes them too.
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  • prljmngrl
    prljmngrl Posts: 320
    j.ro wrote:
    I think Eddie adores his daughter and who are YOU to even try and evaluate his parenting skills based on his performances. As crazy as this may seem, Eddie Vedder is a performer. He gets on stage, he does his shit, and then it's over.
    Don't judge what you don't know.
    Again, love and adoration are just one aspect of parenting. But as for performing, good point exactly. The show is a performance. It is of an adult nature. Not for children.

    Those are MY opinions and I am sticking by them. Regardless of their unpopularity. Ed would be proud! :)
  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    4Powers20 wrote:
    All i am saying is i like to smoke a joint or two at shows and if I walk in and see a young kid in the seat next to mine, I get annoyed. I am the type who wont smoke if there is a kid next to me no matter how stealth I can be. It's not fair to the kid. But it is really not fair to everyone around you to have to walk on eggshells because a kid is in the middle of a rock concert. So if you want to bring a kid, get a lawn ticket and find a nice little area, possibly near other parents with kids, but dont buy seats where everyone around you doesnt have a choice but to deal with a child around them all night. It's not fair to the people spending money to go to a show.

    That sounds ridiculous to me. I take my kid if I want to. If you smoke the joint, it's your responsibility, if you don't, don't blame it on me.
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  • 4Powers20
    4Powers20 Posts: 1,231
    meme wrote:
    That sounds ridiculous to me. I take my kid if I want to. If you smoke the joint, it's your responsibility, if you don't, don't blame it on me.

    So you dont have a problem with someone smoking a joint in front of your child?


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  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    4Powers20 wrote:
    So you dont have a problem with someone smoking a joint in front of your child?

    Ok, a few things.
    My child is 8. So far, I have taken him to see Ben Harper at Radio City Music Hall and Neil Young at United Palace Theater. These are both venues where I could reasonably expect people to NOT light up joints. Indoor, theater-like venues are not very joint friendly. I simply choose NOT to put my child in a situation like that. If that happened, however, I am not sure I would say something. As I mentioned, he is 8. He does not know what a joint is, and I am happy to keep it that way for the moment. Some second hand joint smoke once every three years or so, he'll survive. I'm sure society compels me to feed him shit that's far more unhealthy than that. So to sum up... He goes to one show per year roughly. Shows where joints are unlikely to be smoked. If we bump into the situation, he'll survive.
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
  • 4Powers20
    4Powers20 Posts: 1,231
    meme wrote:
    Ok, a few things.
    My child is 8. So far, I have taken him to see Ben Harper at Radio City Music Hall and Neil Young at United Palace Theater. These are both venues where I could reasonably expect people to NOT light up joints. Indoor, theater-like venues are not very joint friendly. I simply choose NOT to put my child in a situation like that. If that happened, however, I am not sure I would say something. As I mentioned, he is 8. He does not know what a joint is, and I am happy to keep it that way for the moment. Some second hand joint smoke once every three years or so, he'll survive. I'm sure society compels me to feed shit that's far more unhealthy than that. So to sum up... He goes to one show per year roughly. Shows where joints are unlikely to be smoked. If we bump into the situation, he'll survive.

    thats fine. Like I said earlier, i think it is cool to want to take your kids to show. Just understand that you brought your child to a rock concert, and there will be drinking and pot smoking, and it is unfair for you to ask people to stop because your child is there.


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  • edvedder913
    edvedder913 Posts: 1,810
    prljmngrl wrote:
    Again, love and adoration are just one aspect of parenting. But as for performing, good point exactly. The show is a performance. It is of an adult nature. Not for children.

    Those are MY opinions and I am sticking by them. Regardless of their unpopularity. Ed would be proud! :)


    Most performances for children are done by adults - so usually "adult" performances...ie The Wiggles are adults, etc.

    If it was NOT for children as you so adamantly put it, there would be an age restriction. So you can make up whatever sort of rules you want to - but they are not the rules of the band or the venue - they are simply your own.

    Also I am not anti-pot smoking at all, but hey - it is illegal - so it's not necessarily anyone's right to get pissed b/c a kid sits next to them and they feel bad lighting up. It is not permitted at the venue anyway - do it outside before going in.

    Bottom line, a child has a right to be at a show more than a joint does :)

    My 8 year old will be attending his 1st concert in San Diego to see Ed - with a very good set of headphones. I wont bring him to PJ yet because I think it is too long and too loud. He is a big fan and he's very excited. I am not trying to PROVE anything - I am bringing my child to an event that he has the right to attend because I think he would enjoy it. And to prove your theory wrong - he doesnt like The Jonas Bros. or any of that crap - should I force him to attend those shows b/c according to people like you - that is what he SHOULD be attending???? pleeeasse

    If you are going to SD maybe you'll luck out by sitting next to us. He will be far better behaved than many "adults" I have seen at the shows over the years.....
  • edvedder913
    edvedder913 Posts: 1,810
    4Powers20 wrote:
    thats fine. Like I said earlier, i think it is cool to want to take your kids to show. Just understand that you brought your child to a rock concert, and there will be drinking and pot smoking, and it is unfair for you to ask people to stop because your child is there.


    I agree. I am taking my little guy and I am aware of the elements. He'll probably be one of the most mature one's there :)
  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    edvedder913 wrote:
    Most performances for children are done by adults - so usually "adult" performances...ie The Wiggles are adults, etc.

    If it was NOT for children as you so adamantly put it, there would be an age restriction. So you can make up whatever sort of rules you want to - but they are not the rules of the band or the venue - they are simply your own.

    Also I am not anti-pot smoking at all, but hey - it is illegal - so it's not necessarily anyone's right to get pissed b/c a kid sits next to them and they feel bad lighting up. It is not permitted at the venue anyway - do it outside before going in.

    Bottom line, a child has a right to be at a show more than a joint does :)

    My 8 year old will be attending his 1st concert in San Diego to see Ed - with a very good set of headphones. I wont bring him to PJ yet because I think it is too long and too loud. He is a big fan and he's very excited. I am not trying to PROVE anything - I am bringing my child to an event that he has the right to attend because I think he would enjoy it. And to prove your theory wrong - he doesnt like The Jonas Bros. or any of that crap - should I force him to attend those shows b/c according to people like you - that is what he SHOULD be attending???? pleeeasse

    If you are going to SD maybe you'll luck out by sitting next to us. He will be far better behaved than many "adults" I have seen at the shows over the years.....

    If you're going to the show I hope you are sitting

    Very, very nicely said. EV solo is a fantastic option for a child, he's lucky :)

    Hopefully he'll make it awake till the end... but what about jetlag? My son fell asleep at Ben Harper's second song of the set, and slept through the entire acoustic set at Neil Young's. He then woke up for the rocking one and wanted to leave because it was too loud :o. Unfortunately we only had the foam earplugs because it was a last minute decision to take him. Definitely have the big ear thingies (like Olivia has :)) if you are going to something loud.
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  • Steve Dunne
    Steve Dunne Posts: 4,965
    Was Ed's daughter at The Vic last year?
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  • 4Powers20
    4Powers20 Posts: 1,231
    Steve Dunne wrote:
    Was Ed's daughter at The Vic last year?

    yes balcony on the left


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  • edvedder913
    edvedder913 Posts: 1,810
    meme wrote:
    Very, very nicely said. EV solo is a fantastic option for a child, he's lucky :)

    Hopefully he'll make it awake till the end... but what about jetlag? My son fell asleep at Ben Harper's second song of the set, and slept through the entire acoustic set at Neil Young's. He then woke up for the rocking one and wanted to leave because it was too loud :o. Unfortunately we only had the foam earplugs because it was a last minute decision to take him. Definitely have the big ear thingies (like Olivia has :)) if you are going to something loud.

    OH HE'S A NIGHT OWL!!!!!!! he can easily make it to 12-1am, so I dont think that will be an issue :)

    as far as jet lag, we get in on Saturday - so we have a couple of days to adjust - Sea Word, Zoo, beach, etc. Can't wait!
  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    edvedder913 wrote:
    OH HE'S A NIGHT OWL!!!!!!! he can easily make it to 12-1am, so I dont think that will be an issue :)

    as far as jet lag, we get in on Saturday - so we have a couple of days to adjust - Sea Word, Zoo, beach, etc. Can't wait!

    What a treat, have fun!
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
  • GreenTeaDisease
    GreenTeaDisease Posts: 3,359
    4Powers20 wrote:
    exactly. While I can completely respect and think it is a cool thing to do, you do know you are bringing a very young child into a loud enviorment where there will be drinking and smoking. And paying 75 bucks a ticket dont think my first priority will be shielding your child from what I do at a show.

    Some things are just not for kids.

    most of the small children I've seen at PJ and other shows have NOT enjoyed themselves. they look bored and antsy. I think it's cool to bring older kids- 9,10 who can tell their friends they went to a rock show and whatnot, but the younger ones just look uncomfortable and unhappy. Hell, kids look that way at anything long-baseball games, football games...obviously everyone knows their individual kid, but I probably wouldn't take one until they were a bit older and might appreciate it more.
  • AnnaMelinda
    AnnaMelinda Posts: 331
    Wow.

    This thread went from bad to worse.

    1. An annoying child is more annoying than an annoying adult? Whatever. Annoying is annoying. I've been to A LOT of PJ shows and if you want to let people annoy you there is NO SHORTAGE of annoying people to do so. Hopefully if the child starts crying and whining the parent will take them out of the show.

    2. ED... a band parent. Who the *f* are you to judge? Shut up.

    3. Parents complaining about smoke and what have you because of their kid? There are a large ## of people on this board that have complained in past threads about people smoking pot at shows. People have even bragged about getting people thrown out of venues and threatened to report people smoking weed and stated they would try to get them removed from the venue at 06 shows!

    4. People complain about cigarette smokers most places including lots of PJ shows.

    5. If someone wants to pay for a seat and bringt heir kid...it may not *thrill* you but it is their decision. I might really dislike the fact that you brought that annoying chick who screams I LOVE YOU EEDIE all night or talks during the show...or that drunk guy..Or the guy is in and out of the aisle 27 times during the first 8 songs. I might not like your choice in people to bring either. That is why each person pays for their own tickets.

    6. Lastly...I wouldn't bring my son at that age for purely selfish reasons. ME. I want to enjoy the show. He's only 2 but I don't plan on bringing him for a while.(5? 6? ... who knows... maybe earlier.) I'd bring him to SPAC at three! It's a park! (But I would have someone else doing *lawn* with him...like his dad. And they could leave when my son was ready! ) But damn if some people on this board don't appear to be rather intolerant and judgmental.

    Especially poster referred to in #2. You win the prize. *Superlative* "Most Judgmental Post about Someone She Knows Very Little About" Goes to Prljmngrl.

    Congratulations!!

    *ps* there are a lot of kids who love concerts. My son, at the age of two, LOVES live music. (Wonder why? ;) )
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  • corduroid
    corduroid Posts: 293
    prljmngrl wrote:
    lol out of line ... I see, only Ed can voice his opinions. Wow. As for parental love and adoration, that is only one piece of the parenting puzzle.
    prljmngrl wrote:
    Again, love and adoration are just one aspect of parenting. But as for performing, good point exactly. The show is a performance. It is of an adult nature. Not for children.

    Those are MY opinions and I am sticking by them. Regardless of their unpopularity. Ed would be proud! :)

    Everybody should express opinions in a chat room :rolleyes: that's what it's all about. I certainly welcome yours.

    But - that's very different from dissing a member of the band personally on something deeply private, based on something you know nothing about. I doubt anyone, never mind Ed, would be proud of that.
  • Rossum20
    Rossum20 Posts: 910
    I personally think it is a stupid idea to bring a child to a ROCK concert where sometimes as an adult, I am appalled by what I see and hear....and many times have to deal with. Put me in the group who thinks if the child is under the age of 13 they shouldn't be attending these types of events....it doesn't matter if the kid LIKES Pearl Jam....its the fact that you are supposed to be there parent and protect them from events that are not suitable for children...and a Pearl Jam concert certainly isnt suitable for pre-teens! ...and a 3 year old? Honestly, that is a terrible idea...the child will not even remember it!! Get a babysitter!
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    I've found a lot of times, parents bring their kids to these things because they think the kid SHOULD be into it ... not because the kid actually IS into it ... or the kid isn't into it at nearly level it would require to sustain interest for about three hours.

    You've seen these kids at various events before. They look like they are in hell. Why would anyone do that to a child?

    *Note to all parents reading this: I'm not referring to your kid. Your kid loves Pearl Jam, knows all the words to Lukin and can name all the drummers in succession. I'm talking about other people's kids.
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,135
    personally, I wouldnt bring a child under 12 or 13 unless it was a festival type thing where you can hang as a family

    just not a good enviornment for a child IMHO
  • 4Powers20
    4Powers20 Posts: 1,231
    bring your kid, i dont care I will be smoking and drinking. Its a rock concert.


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