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  • prljmngrl
    prljmngrl Posts: 320
    GTFLYGIRL wrote:
    I am in child welfare and I know the difference....
    I'm sorry but this was hilarious!

    BTW...what exactly IS the difference between taking a child to a bar and taking a child to a concert?
  • edvedder913
    edvedder913 Posts: 1,810
    prljmngrl wrote:
    I'm sorry but this was hilarious!

    BTW...what exactly IS the difference between taking a child to a bar and taking a child to a concert?

    umm maybe because a bar has age limitations and it is illegal!

    quite obvious.
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    edvedder913 wrote:
    honestly i do not have this issue - he behaves great!

    I mean, that's awesome. My point on this thread has never been, "Don't take your kids anywhere, ever."

    My point is, take your kids anywhere you damn well please (within some realm of reason), just be prepared to deal with them if they might cause a scene.

    If you're prepared to leave the table on the off chance your child goes apeshit for some reason, I have no problem with it. My problem comes when you go to a restaurant or movie or something and there is a kid just bawling and bawling and the parents act like they don't even hear it. That's when it's not cool.
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  • KDH12
    KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    i do not feel like reading 11 pages......

    what does it say.....

    don't worry i am leaving 1.5 year old at home
    **CUBS GO ALL THE WAY IN......never **
  • edvedder913
    edvedder913 Posts: 1,810
    slightofjeff wrote:
    I mean, that's awesome. My point on this thread has never been, "Don't take your kids anywhere, ever."

    My point is, take your kids anywhere you damn well please (within some realm of reason), just be prepared to deal with them if they might cause a scene.

    If you're prepared to leave the table on the off chance your child goes apeshit for some reason, I have no problem with it. My problem comes when you go to a restaurant or movie or something and there is a kid just bawling and bawling and the parents act like they don't even hear it. That's when it's not cool.

    agreed. many parents do not teach right from wrong - they just ignore. not a fan of that myself.
  • Pearlybaker
    Pearlybaker Posts: 217
    I've taken my 13 old daughter to a couple shows. She loves music and I know she's going to be at a lot of concerts over the next coming years.

    I've specifically made a point of showing her what happens to people who drink too much, why it's not a good idea to be any where but on the periphery of a no seat situation, and how to recognize bad situations developing.

    Luckily, I've been to hundreds of shows over the past 25 years and have managed to avoid some potentially bad situations. My parents didn't even have a clue I was at concerts - nevermind give me some tips that might help out in a crowd of 60,000 wasted people with security guards that treat everyone like a vagrant.

    Every kid is different and you have to base it on their level of maturity but there are certainly learning opportunities for them if you do decide to go - make the most of them and don't be a clown who gets wasted with his kids at the show.
    "Hey, listen asshole, one more fucker throws a fuckin' quarter up here and we're outta here, I'm tellin' ya, FUCKER! What the fuck, you're blowin' it for fuckin' everybody. Hit me with a fuckin' quarter again and, fuck it, I'm outta here. We're all outta here. Fuck you, and if anyone sees someone throw fuckin' change right next to them, you have my permission to beat the fuckin' holy shit outta them."
  • prljmngrl
    prljmngrl Posts: 320
    edvedder913 wrote:
    umm maybe because a bar has age limitations and it is illegal!

    quite obvious.
    well lets compare shall we?

    BAR: People, loud music, drinking, smoking, swearing, various other activities depending on the venue

    CONCERT: People, loud music, drinking, smoking, swearing, various other activities depending on the venue

    hmmm, I don't see much of an "obvious" difference
  • ReaganLeaguer
    ReaganLeaguer Posts: 19
    PearlyBaker wrote:
    My 11 year old daughter absolutely loves the band. While I play all kinds of music in the house and car, she really has dug PJ for about three years now. Actually knows every word to most songs.

    I'm going to bring her and my older daughter (14) to Mansfield but I had to bribe her.

    You see, a couple summers ago we went to a Red Sox game on a Friday in June. On the way out, crammed into a packed green line train - some completely wasted college kid hurled all over the train. People were freaking out trying to avoid the wobbling puke as it ebbed and flowed down the train floor. Luckily the train stopped, I grabbed her and jumped off before it hit us.

    Since then, the kid has a mortal fear of people puking. I just read the Boston 2 puke thread and after almost pissing myself, realized that this could go horribly wrong.

    Is there a word for someone who has a legitimate fear of vomit?

    They better play Sweet Lou for her!




    In New York, a lady actually gave me her kid's seat on the train cause I was so messed up.
  • JaneNY
    JaneNY Posts: 4,438
    writersu wrote:
    I would get a little mad if i was into the concert and one of them had to go to the bathroom and made me miss a set or whatever.

    Mine is awesome - she had to go at State College but she waited until RVM was over because she knew I really wanted to see it. We missed about a quarter of Nothingman as we raced out and back but we could still hear it. Now she rags me if *I* need to go!

    edit - I just have to add this because I remembered it - until MSG II 03 I hadn't heard SOLAT live, and I so wanted to. After they played it, she turned and gave me on of the tightest little kid hugs ever. Its a moment I'll always remember. Shows are something we share and a way we bond. Its really nice to have something like that when your kid becomes a normal occasionally somewhat bratty/mouthy 13 almost 14 year old. We still have good times at shows and it helps keep us close.
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  • edvedder913
    edvedder913 Posts: 1,810
    prljmngrl wrote:
    well lets compare shall we?

    BAR: People, loud music, drinking, smoking, swearing, various other activities depending on the venue

    CONCERT: People, loud music, drinking, smoking, swearing, various other activities depending on the venue

    hmmm, I don't see much of an "obvious" difference

    I guess you are missing the obvious word "illegal" - bars have an age restriction - 21 and over. concerts do not. everything you are referring to above goes on at sporting events too. it would not prevent me from taking my son to a Yankee game or Ranger game. he has learned that some adults do not know how to behave. he also doesnt comeprehend "drinking" - a beer and soda to him are the same. he's young and innocent.

    also - at a bar you are not going to see any type of performance - at a concert you are seeing a band you enjoy live. drinking is all that goes on at a bar. and not even smoking - at least in NY - it is not legal - just like you are not supposed to smoke in shows. No parent is doing anything against the rules or illegal by bringing their child to a concert. why is this so hard for you to understand?

    pretty weak comparison. if you think they are the same, save yourself some money, forfeit the PJ shows and just go to bar and play PJ on the jukebox.
  • 4Powers20
    4Powers20 Posts: 1,231
    edvedder913 wrote:
    I guess you are missing the obvious word "illegal" - bars have an age restriction - 21 and over. concerts do not. everything you are referring to above goes on at sporting events too. it would not prevent me from taking my son to a Yankee game or Ranger game. he has learned that some adults do not know how to behave. he also doesnt comeprehend "drinking" - a beer and soda to him are the same. he's young and innocent.

    also - at a bar you are not going to see any type of performance - at a concert you are seeing a band you enjoy live. drinking is all that goes on at a bar. and not even smoking - at least in NY - it is not legal - just like you are not supposed to smoke in shows. No parent is doing anything against the rules or illegal by bringing their child to a concert. why is this so hard for you to understand?

    pretty weak comparison. if you think they are the same, save yourself some money, forfeit the PJ shows and just go to bar and play PJ on the jukebox.

    every show I have ever been to people have smoked weed. Illegal or not it is done. People speed on the highway. It is illegal, yet it still happens. I like to smoke a joint as the show is starting and one when the encore starts. You are not going to be able to stop the crowd from smoking because you brought a child. Know that it is your choice if you want to bring your kid into these surroundings, but you are not going to change the way the crowd enjoys themselves.


    "We're running out of beer, too?" EV 6/19/08

  • in_hiding79
    in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    4Powers20 wrote:
    exactly. While I can completely respect and think it is a cool thing to do, you do know you are bringing a very young child into a loud enviorment where there will be drinking and smoking. And paying 75 bucks a ticket dont think my first priority will be shielding your child from what I do at a show.

    Some things are just not for kids.


    Yep....;)
    And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
    "What a stupid lamb."
    "What a sick, masochistic lion."
  • in_hiding79
    in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    nathanastin wrote:
    Leave the kids at home; but unfortunately, it is the drinkers, pot smokers, and cigarette pouters that are the worst


    Damn, why is that so bad?? I don't do any of the smoking, but I sure don't give a shit who does!! Now drinking is another story! :) As for kids at shows...DON'T DO IT!!!
    And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
    "What a stupid lamb."
    "What a sick, masochistic lion."
  • edvedder913
    edvedder913 Posts: 1,810
    4Powers20 wrote:
    every show I have ever been to people have smoked weed. Illegal or not it is done. People speed on the highway. It is illegal, yet it still happens. I like to smoke a joint as the show is starting and one when the encore starts. You are not going to be able to stop the crowd from smoking because you brought a child. Know that it is your choice if you want to bring your kid into these surroundings, but you are not going to change the way the crowd enjoys themselves.


    seriously, how many times do I need to repeat that I am not asking anyone to change their behavior??? I have told you that more than once.

    what is the problem?

    I will say it agian - you are free to smoke pot - people are free to bring their kids. period. you have rights - so do I.

    no one should be coming down on people who want to bring their kid to a show just b/c it ruins their pot smoking experience.
  • NY PJ1
    NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    everyone is allowed to do either side of the argument if they choose

    parents know that pot will be smoked at a show

    and burnouts will know some kids will be there smelling it



    its very simple

    its nobody's problem

    smoke your pot bring your kids


    me personally ...i wouldnt blow it in anyone's face ..but if children get to close to me ...what can i do?
    im gonna smoke it if i choose to..everyone is paying for their ticket
  • GreenTeaDisease
    GreenTeaDisease Posts: 3,359
    edvedder913 wrote:
    I guess you are missing the obvious word "illegal" - bars have an age restriction - 21 and over.

    so then why do I keep seeing yuppie couples bringing their babies and toddlers and even young kids to bars these days? Apparently, if you are little enough and with your parents, there's no age limit anymore. it's only for teenagers I guess. I don't think the kids are going to be exposed to any bad influences (you usually see this behavior at more upscale or loungey places), it's more so that the other adults at the bar are not expecting kids to be there- they want to relax and enjoy themselves around other adults, not have chicken finger bits thrown at them by some little brat. Honestly, I don't understand why people don't hire babysitters anymore! That's why god invented 14-year-old girls. I mean geez when I was in junior high I watched every kid in the neighborhood. it's good for the economy and keeps the junior high kids busy so they won't cause trouble. everyone wins!
  • edvedder913
    edvedder913 Posts: 1,810
    GreenTeaDisease wrote:
    they want to relax and enjoy themselves around other adults, not have chicken finger bits thrown at them by some little brat.


    nice...
  • edvedder913
    edvedder913 Posts: 1,810
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    everyone is allowed to do either side of the argument if they choose

    parents know that pot will be smoked at a show

    and burnouts will know some kids will be there smelling it



    its very simple

    its nobody's problem

    smoke your pot bring your kids


    me personally ...i wouldnt blow it in anyone's face ..but if children get to close to me ...what can i do?
    im gonna smoke it if i choose to..everyone is paying for their ticket

    ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh THANK YOU! I mean - 10+ pages to understand this? really! it is very simple
  • KDH12
    KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    It is funny how the ones that complain the most about kids are the ones who do not have kids........
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  • NY PJ1
    NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    edvedder913 wrote:
    ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh THANK YOU! I mean - 10+ pages to understand this? really! it is very simple


    end of discussion


    like u said if someone lights up next to you

    u will go outside for 2 songs.. its not the end of the world

    kids will be there and pot will be there ,, very simple

    as long as the children arent screaming all night and as long as the burnouts dont blow it in their faces ,,whats the problem?

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