For those going to show with children

GreenTeaDisease

edvedder913 wrote:

since this thread is about taking your kid to a PJ show, I assumed that is what the comment referred to.
apologize profusely? babies cry - that is life. no need to apologize.

i also wouldn't qualify parents as good/bad based on them removing their children from public spots during a meltdown.....

i didnt know restuaranst had age restrictions either?!?!?

but whatever. to each his own. everyone was a baby at one time or another.

not to get too off topic but...
yeah babies do cry, that's the point. that's why you don't take babies or little children to places where adults are trying to enjoy themselves or relax. and if you do, knowing that yes, babies cry, toddlers act up, have meltdowns, or hell even if they are happy they are kids and could annoy people...then well, it's *your* responsibility to remove the child, and yes, apologize to the people you have bothered, that's all. I think there really *is* a problem in recent years of people just 1) bringing kids everywhere they don't need to be and 2) just ignoring them when they do act up and bother people. it's this huge sense of entitlement that's been going around lately.

no restaurants don't have age restrictions, but there just are certain places where you go that the baby sitter should be called. And I'm sorry, it's inexcusable to take a baby to a movie theater. or to let little kids run around the women's locker room at the gym (that's a huge pet peeve of mine!). if you do take a kid to a more adult place, you have to be prepared to take a high level of responsibility. it's just common courtesy.

GreenTeaDisease

4Powers20 wrote:

Babies cry. Exactly. People dont like to listen to babies cry. If your baby is crying in a public place where people are paying money to be(concert, movies. restaurant) it is not crazy for them to expect you to leave with you child until they are done crying.

exactly. the only point I was trying to make.

WildChildRose

GreenTeaDisease wrote:

not to get too off topic but...
yeah babies do cry, that's the point. that's why you don't take babies or little children to places where adults are trying to enjoy themselves or relax. and if you do, knowing that yes, babies cry, toddlers act up, have meltdowns, or hell even if they are happy they are kids and could annoy people...then well, it's *your* responsibility to remove the child, and yes, apologize to the people you have bothered, that's all. I think there really *is* a problem in recent years of people just 1) bringing kids everywhere they don't need to be and 2) just ignoring them when they do act up and bother people. it's this huge sense of entitlement that's been going around lately.

no restaurants don't have age restrictions, but there just are certain places where you go that the baby sitter should be called. And I'm sorry, it's inexcusable to take a baby to a movie theater. or to let little kids run around the women's locker room at the gym (that's a huge pet peeve of mine!). if you do take a kid to a more adult place, you have to be prepared to take a high level of responsibility. it's just common courtesy.

LOL reading your responses tells me, you don't have kids! I'm not going to hide my child away in a corner bc he makes noise, nor am I going to let him scream his head off. I let my child be a child! i'm not embarrased when he acts like one or cries or gets upset. That's a part of life. I'm sure not going to apologize to all the poor adults who have to endure my child making some noise! But like I said, at a concert, of course I'd take him out or away so that people can hear the music.

Do you expect loud drunk obnoxius people who spill their beer on you and scream in your ear to apologize and stand outside too??? LOL.

Get_Right

WildChildRose wrote:

LOL reading your responses tells me, you don't have kids! I'm not going to hide my child away in a corner bc he makes noise, nor am I going to let him scream his head off. I let my child be a child! i'm not embarrased when he acts like one or cries or gets upset. That's a part of life. I'm sure not going to apologize to all the poor adults who have to endure my child making some noise! But like I said, at a concert, of course I'd take him out or away so that people can hear the music.

Do you expect loud drunk obnoxius people who spill their beer on you and scream in your ear to apologize and stand outside too??? LOL.

EXACTLY
People without kids are generally less tolerant of them-perfect example here

the solution is to try and teach them to behave at the time the crying happens, and to teach them to sit properly at a restaurant. Hard to do in when your not sitting at your table.

you are free to go someplace else if the crying bothers you, it is a public place after all-see how that works


that being said, I still dont think an arena rock show is the right place for a three year old-the risks simply outweigh the benefits IMHO

edvedder913

WildChildRose wrote:

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Do you expect loud drunk obnoxius people who spill their beer on you and scream in your ear to apologize and stand outside too??? LOL.

and the person next to you screaming in your effing ear thru the whole show?!?!?!?!?

so if your baby is crying in a restuarant - or any other public place - where adults "are enjoying themselves" - should you remove them even if it's pouring rain out?

"look at that mother outside in the thunder storm with her baby - what a bad mother - she should be inside" LMAO

so kids can't go see Horton Hears a who? they should be prohibited from theaters too....lol

wait - maybe we can have a separate planet for those with chikldren so they are more formally accepted in places where adults may want to enjoy themselves.....ie OUT IN PUBLIC

should they not be allowed at baseball games? hockey games? b/c adults cannot control themselves and they spill beer at yell bad words? i guess they shouldn't be expected to go see their favorite team play either, since you know - adults pay to enjoy themselves there.

seems like a BAN CHILDREN campaign to me....lol where do you draw the line?
kids should not be in places that have age restrictions and do not allow kids. it's pretty simple. everywhere else is public and free reign...

joint in a tree

my friends and i went to see the Eagles, back in HS, circa 1994, and we were the youngest there by far....we lit up a joint, and got ATTACKED by all the old farts around us. They yelled at us and made us put it out. At least if I'm not smoking cuz of a kid, it's legit. Old people? c'mon, have you never smelled pot before?!?

4Powers20

WildChildRose wrote:

LOL reading your responses tells me, you don't have kids! I'm not going to hide my child away in a corner bc he makes noise, nor am I going to let him scream his head off. I let my child be a child! i'm not embarrased when he acts like one or cries or gets upset. That's a part of life. I'm sure not going to apologize to all the poor adults who have to endure my child making some noise! But like I said, at a concert, of course I'd take him out or away so that people can hear the music.

Do you expect loud drunk obnoxius people who spill their beer on you and scream in your ear to apologize and stand outside too??? LOL.

wow. so you would take your kid to a restaurant or a movie and if he starts crying you would just say its a kid being a kid and everyone else should just deal with it? that is pretty selfish.

Get_Right

edvedder913 wrote:

and the person next to you screaming in your effing ear thru the whole show?!?!?!?!?

so if your baby is crying in a restuarant - or any other public place - where adults "are enjoying themselves" - should you remove them even if it's pouring rain out?

"look at that mother outside in the thunder storm with her baby - what a bad mother - she should be inside" LMAO

so kids can't go see Horton Hears a who? they should be prohibited from theaters too....lol

wait - maybe we can have a separate planet for those with chikldren so they are more formally accepted in places where adults may want to enjoy themselves.....ie OUT IN PUBLIC

should they not be allowed at baseball games? hockey games? b/c adults cannot control themselves and they spill beer at yell bad words? i guess they shouldn't be expected to go see their favorite team play either, since you know - adults pay to enjoy themselves there.

seems like a BAN CHILDREN campaign to me....lol where do you draw the line?
kids should not be in places that have age restrictions and do not allow kids. it's pretty simple. everywhere else is public and free reign...

Is/was your father a professor or something?
well said

edvedder913

and just for the record if my kid cried during a movie, i would remove him and bring him back once he was calmed.

BUT I would NOT feel obliged to "profusely apologize to anyone" - IT IS LIFE

I am fortunate - I think my son has made 1-2 public scenes in his life. he is far better behaved than most adults.

4Powers20

edvedder913 wrote:

so kids can't go see Horton Hears a who? they should be prohibited from theaters too....lol

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horton hears a who is a kids movie, completely different.

if you take your child to Evan Almighty (i picked it because it's not a kids movie but parents would probably think thier kids could handle, not because I think it is a good movie) and they start crying you would just stay there?

edvedder913

Get_Right wrote:

Is/was your father a professor or something?
well said

HA

edvedder913

4Powers20 wrote:

horton hears a who is a kids movie, completely different.

if you take your child to Evan Almighty (i picked it because it's not a kids movie but parents would probably think thier kids could handle, not because I think it is a good movie) and they start crying you would just stay there?

read post above - i already answered that question.

evan almighty was very geared towards kids.....

4Powers20

edvedder913 wrote:

and just for the record if my kid cried during a movie, i would remove him and bring him back once he was calmed.

BUT I would NOT feel obliged to "profusely apologize to anyone" - IT IS LIFE

I am fortunate - I think my son has made 1-2 public scenes in his life. he is far better behaved than most adults.

i posted my response before I saw this post.

So what is the difference from removing a crying child from a movie and removing a crying child from a restaurant?

Its not fair to the parents who DID get a babysitter, so they could enjoy a night out without the kid.

slightofjeff

My mom has a friend ... and yes, this friend DOES have kids ... and we were all out at a restaurant once where there was this baby wailing. and wailing. and wailing.

My mom's friend walked over to the table and said, "Either give that kid what she wants, or get her out of here."

I was flabbergasted. I would never have the gall to say such a thing to anyone. But I kind of agree with the premise.

And, no, you don't have to apologize to anyone. If your kid is crying in the middle of a movie, take her outside. It's no big deal. It's these parents that just sit there and let the kid wail in the middle of "Kill Bill" or something that make me want to punch them (the parents, not the kids).

4Powers20

and if your child doesnt cry or cause a scene then they arent bothering anyone so it is not an issue.

but bringing them to a concert you are going to have an effect on everyone around you. They wont be able to do what they would do if your kid wasnt there.

edvedder913

4Powers20 wrote:

i posted my response before I saw this post.

So what is the difference from removing a crying child from a movie and removing a crying child from a restaurant?

Its not fair to the parents who DID get a babysitter, so they could enjoy a night out without the kid.

so what are you saying - no one should be allowed to take their kids to a restuarant b/c other people pay babysitters? insane...

movie is diff. from restuarant. in a restuarant there is no place you can go but outside. you are not going to leave your table, with food, without paying a bill, throw your outer garments on, get your kid all bundled up to step outside and calm them down. by the time you are done with all of that, the tantrum will probably be over and the waiter thinks you left w/o paying and removes your food. you do the best you can given each different situation.

AnnaMelinda

When my nephew was little and my dad was alive...for fathers day we would always go to the racetrack. When my nephew was about 10 (he is a little entrepeneur... last year he brokered a deal for some Yankee books his father had yielding over $10,000 for the books...he was named after his self made multi millionaire uncle, Uncle John.)

Anyway....he had $10 to spend on $1 and $2 bets he made throughout the day. After he placed his first bet he was yelling... cheering on his horse...and some old man and a few of his cronies had shit to say!! This was the only time that happened... but still.

EVERYONE was yelling! Including the bitter, miserable angry old men that were unhappy with Johnny!!

What a bunch of horse shit.

(get it...horse shit. )

norm

can anyone remember anything from when they were 3? i'm not sure if it's worth it to take someone that young to a concert.....10 and up should be fine....:)

WildChildRose

4Powers20 wrote:

wow. so you would take your kid to a restaurant or a movie and if he starts crying you would just say its a kid being a kid and everyone else should just deal with it? that is pretty selfish.

Did I say that? No. I would deal with the situation.

Kids are not there to be hidden away. And people who don't have kids don't need this sheltering. Some of you act like they are monsters or aliens or something. Geez!!!

4Powers20

edvedder913 wrote:

so what are you saying - no one should be allowed to take their kids to a restuarant b/c other people pay babysitters? insane...

movie is diff. from restuarant. in a restuarant there is no place you can go but outside. you are not going to leave your table, with food, without paying a bill, throw your outer garments on, get your kid all bundled up to step outside and calm them down. by the time you are done with all of that, the tantrum will probably be over and the waiter thinks you left w/o paying and removes your food. you do the best you can given each different situation.

no but you should be choosing a restaurant based on the fact you are bringing your child. Dont go to a "nicer" restaurant. Go to an Applebees or TGIFridays or something. Dont go to the new Italian place, or the nice steakhouse.