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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    runstaples said:
    Its like that movie Backdraft, turns out one of firefighters has been starting all the fires.
    Those calls are coming from inside the house!!! 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVWtq-_VYk8
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,458
    This thread is just a glaring example of how consumerism has literally consumed a few dozen fans (maybe more) to the detriment of hundreds per show. Between the merch BS and the rail roadies, it just sounds like a lot of human greed. I guess you don't have to deal with even bros and lackluster fans like the rest of the plebes in the seats.

    Never been interested in camping out for rail and seats are fine with me. The one concert I did have rail for (U2 in 2005) was because my wife's cousin was a super fan who did camp out and then we showed up a few hours before. Wouldn't do that again. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,905
    lastexitlondon said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Chrrie said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    So nobody will name this person. Why?
    If the person is at every show and people have spent 24 hrs with them in a line.
    Why no name?
    It’s honestly really obvious if you’ve been watching the fan to fan threads for the past couple tours 
    There was a name that popped immediately to mind and I've been curious to see if I'm right
    Same 
    I've suspected a certain someone since well before 10pacer dropped that info. 
    I too wondered and want someone to name the person they have an issue with.whats the problem with someone saying who has done wrong that way it can be put right, no?
    I'm curious if there's legal reasons why. As far as I know, 10c doesn't have control of what you buy outside 10c and how you sell them. If you buy them directly from TM or some other source, and don't post them for sale on 10c, then what options does 10c have? My guess is none. It's perfectly legal to buy and resell tickets. And my guess is if this guy has a broker license, and is considered part of his business, and 10c allows his business to be hurt by negative comments on their forum, maybe it can create legal issues. 
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,793
    runstaples said:
    It’s like that movie Backdraft, turns out one of firefighters has been starting all the fires.
    🔥😂😂
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • PJINFLA
    PJINFLA Posts: 844
    mrk2 said:
    PJINFLA said:
    Fortunately the tour ends Sunday and these folks will have to go back to their miserable lives.
    Then they can spend their time operating and selling all of the merch they have been hoarding on Facebooks PJBAY and Ebay.
    How do they manage to line up for the rail and also merch at the same time?
    Trust me they do both. They are master scammers. Spots in both lines. Hence the mafia.
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  • PJINFLA
    PJINFLA Posts: 844
    bootlegger10 said:
    I've learned that this group of "front liners" are an extension of PJ security.  We should be thanking these people for their sacrifice, just like medical personnel in 2020-2022, and military folks in harms way.  

    Personally, I could see where the band likes having the same folks in the front every night as if I were security, I would like to keep an eye on people that seem to want more of a relationship with the band than the average person (which for 99.9% is no relationship).  So they have let the system be as it is so all of those people are together in the front.  

    Give me a fucking break, the is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,581
    edited May 15
    mace1229 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Chrrie said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    So nobody will name this person. Why?
    If the person is at every show and people have spent 24 hrs with them in a line.
    Why no name?
    It’s honestly really obvious if you’ve been watching the fan to fan threads for the past couple tours 
    There was a name that popped immediately to mind and I've been curious to see if I'm right
    Same 
    I've suspected a certain someone since well before 10pacer dropped that info. 
    I too wondered and want someone to name the person they have an issue with.whats the problem with someone saying who has done wrong that way it can be put right, no?
    I'm curious if there's legal reasons why. As far as I know, 10c doesn't have control of what you buy outside 10c and how you sell them. If you buy them directly from TM or some other source, and don't post them for sale on 10c, then what options does 10c have? My guess is none. It's perfectly legal to buy and resell tickets. And my guess is if this guy has a broker license, and is considered part of his business, and 10c allows his business to be hurt by negative comments on their forum, maybe it can create legal issues. 
    They could cancel his membership. I think that's really all the penalty has ever been. Maaaaaybe they could cancel any active tickets associated with the membership but I can't imagine much more than that.

    I don't see any issue with naming him. He's not doing anything illegal. It's just his friendships at risk to the extent that it even matters.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,581
    From the ticketing policy:


  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    edited May 15
    pjl44 said:
    From the ticketing policy:


    In fairness there's also forum rules about gossip & talking about each other. 

    Just playing devil's advocate if we're going to reference the rules... I want to know as much as anyone and think I have an idea who it might be.
  • RE4790
    RE4790 Posts: 826
    pjl44 said:


    I don't see any issue with naming him. He's not doing anything illegal. It's just his friendships at risk to the extent that it even matters.

    Borderline doxxing.  Definitely not a very cash-money thing to do.

  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,581
    edited May 15
    Merkin Baller said:
    pjl44 said:
    From the ticketing policy:


    In fairness there's also forum rules about gossip & talking about each other. 

    Just playing devil's advocate if we're going to reference the rules... I want to know as much as anyone and think I have an idea who it might be.
    Oh yeah I definitely don't think people should make guesses or whatever. If someone has the goods though it's a gray enough area where I'd fire away and let mods make the call. Maybe it winds up being more of a non-affiliated site discussion. 

    Oh...and message me your guess. First letter. I'm one for one on the matching game so far lol.
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    pjl44 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    pjl44 said:
    From the ticketing policy:


    In fairness there's also forum rules about gossip & talking about each other. 

    Just playing devil's advocate if we're going to reference the rules... I want to know as much as anyone and think I have an idea who it might be.
    Oh yeah I definitely don't think people should make guesses or whatever. If someone has the goods though it's a gray enough area where I'd fire away and let mods make the call. Maybe it winds up being more of a non-affiliated site discussion. 

    Oh...and message me your guess. First letter. I'm one for one on the matching game so far lol.
    I hear you.... based on one of the last posts about it though, I feel like we'll know soon enough. 
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    PJINFLA said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    I've learned that this group of "front liners" are an extension of PJ security.  We should be thanking these people for their sacrifice, just like medical personnel in 2020-2022, and military folks in harms way.  

    Personally, I could see where the band likes having the same folks in the front every night as if I were security, I would like to keep an eye on people that seem to want more of a relationship with the band than the average person (which for 99.9% is no relationship).  So they have let the system be as it is so all of those people are together in the front.  

    Give me a fucking break, the is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
    Why? It was mentioned earlier that the band likes this process because they believe the band's security likes this group of people and trusts them to be upfront versus weirdo stalker types. I was just joking that perhaps the weirdo stalker types are the ones that have to be upfront ever show and this is the way the band security keeps an eye on them.  I'm just being sarcastic.  This thread is abysmally stupid for grown adults.  Merch is dumb.  Being 5 feet away from the band versus 15 feet away from the band is dumb. 

    None of this matters, at all.   
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,581
    RE4790 said:
    pjl44 said:


    I don't see any issue with naming him. He's not doing anything illegal. It's just his friendships at risk to the extent that it even matters.

    Borderline doxxing.  Definitely not a very cash-money thing to do.

    How is posting a username doxxing lol
  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,981
    So much drama in the LBC…
  • ekwipt
    ekwipt Vancouver Posts: 1,068
    CROJAM95 said:
    So much drama in the LBC…
    🎵 It’s kinda hard bein’ Ed V-E-double D 🎶 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,905
    pjl44 said:
    From the ticketing policy:


    That refers to 10c tickets bought through 10c, not tickets bought directly through TM.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,581
    edited May 15
    mace1229 said:
    pjl44 said:
    From the ticketing policy:


    That refers to 10c tickets bought through 10c, not tickets bought directly through TM.
    Right. I think the odds of tickets he received via the 10C being somewhere in the mix are high. Even if he's been extremely careful about that technicality, what if he's used this forum to jump on f2f links people post? Where would that potential transgression fall?

    You can't always control what happens if you hook up a random fan here with extras. It would certainly be nice to have a heads up if someone is running a professional operation though.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    pjl44 said:
    RE4790 said:it’ll get the 
    pjl44 said:


    I don't see any issue with naming him. He's not doing anything illegal. It's just his friendships at risk to the extent that it even matters.

    Borderline doxxing.  Definitely not a very cash-money thing to do.

    How is posting a username doxxing lol
    It’ll get the thread closed in a hurry. 
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,581
    Go Beavers said:
    pjl44 said:
    RE4790 said:it’ll get the 
    pjl44 said:


    I don't see any issue with naming him. He's not doing anything illegal. It's just his friendships at risk to the extent that it even matters.

    Borderline doxxing.  Definitely not a very cash-money thing to do.

    How is posting a username doxxing lol
    It’ll get the thread closed in a hurry. 
    Possibly but still not doxxing 

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