Same folks up front

darwinstheory · May 16

2-feign-reluctance said:

I had ChatGPT provide a summary for those just joining.

The Pearl Jam community forum thread titled "Same Folks Up Front" delves into the recurring presence of certain fans at the front of the stage during concerts. Participants express a range of opinions, from curiosity about the consistency of these individuals to concerns about fairness and exclusivity in ticketing.
Some forum members speculate that these frequent front-row attendees might be affiliated with the band's security or have established relationships with the band, leading to their preferential positioning. This has sparked debates about the transparency and fairness of ticketing processes, with some fans feeling that such arrangements could undermine the egalitarian spirit of live performances.
Others argue that the presence of these dedicated fans adds to the concert's atmosphere, suggesting that their enthusiasm and commitment enhance the overall experience for all attendees.
In summary, the thread reflects a microcosm of the broader discussions in fan communities about access, fairness, and the evolving dynamics of live music events.

This is fucking awesome! And scary.

Shaindli1 · May 16

I have GA again tomorrow. I'm hoping the awesomeness of Raleigh N2 (the night my GA cherry was popped) repeats itself. People were just generous and kind. I'm always kinda clueless, confused and a little anxious but folks took care of me and answered all my questions. A few also fed me because I had nothing to eat all day. Got water from two people so I don't dehydrate.

This setup is different because I'll leave the car at the hotel so a bit more cumbersome with the chair and things. Have yet to figure it all out.

I'll see you tomorrow outside or inside. Please come say hi to me. I don't bite... hard!

julieooliern · May 16

Shaindli1 said:

I have GA again tomorrow. I'm hoping the awesomeness of Raleigh N2 (the night my GA cherry was popped) repeats itself. People were just generous and kind. I'm always kinda clueless, confused and a little anxious but folks took care of me and answered all my questions. A few also fed me because I had nothing to eat all day. Got water from two people so I don't dehydrate.

This setup is different because I'll leave the car at the hotel so a bit more cumbersome with the chair and things. Have yet to figure it all out.

I'll see you tomorrow outside or inside. Please come say hi to me. I don't bite... hard!

Well, well, well. So you DO bite.

pdalowsky · May 16

darwinstheory said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

I had ChatGPT provide a summary for those just joining.

The Pearl Jam community forum thread titled "Same Folks Up Front" delves into the recurring presence of certain fans at the front of the stage during concerts. Participants express a range of opinions, from curiosity about the consistency of these individuals to concerns about fairness and exclusivity in ticketing.
Some forum members speculate that these frequent front-row attendees might be affiliated with the band's security or have established relationships with the band, leading to their preferential positioning. This has sparked debates about the transparency and fairness of ticketing processes, with some fans feeling that such arrangements could undermine the egalitarian spirit of live performances.
Others argue that the presence of these dedicated fans adds to the concert's atmosphere, suggesting that their enthusiasm and commitment enhance the overall experience for all attendees.
In summary, the thread reflects a microcosm of the broader discussions in fan communities about access, fairness, and the evolving dynamics of live music events.

This is fucking awesome! And scary.

I was just thinking 'do i even know whats going on here anymore'.

then this post pops up. Brilliant

Shaindli1 · May 16

julieooliern said:

Shaindli1 said:

I have GA again tomorrow. I'm hoping the awesomeness of Raleigh N2 (the night my GA cherry was popped) repeats itself. People were just generous and kind. I'm always kinda clueless, confused and a little anxious but folks took care of me and answered all my questions. A few also fed me because I had nothing to eat all day. Got water from two people so I don't dehydrate.

This setup is different because I'll leave the car at the hotel so a bit more cumbersome with the chair and things. Have yet to figure it all out.

I'll see you tomorrow outside or inside. Please come say hi to me. I don't bite... hard!

Well, well, well. So you DO bite.

😉

🤣🤣🤣🤣

eboweddie · May 16

lastexitlondon · May 16

pdalowsky said:

darwinstheory said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

I had ChatGPT provide a summary for those just joining.

The Pearl Jam community forum thread titled "Same Folks Up Front" delves into the recurring presence of certain fans at the front of the stage during concerts. Participants express a range of opinions, from curiosity about the consistency of these individuals to concerns about fairness and exclusivity in ticketing.
Some forum members speculate that these frequent front-row attendees might be affiliated with the band's security or have established relationships with the band, leading to their preferential positioning. This has sparked debates about the transparency and fairness of ticketing processes, with some fans feeling that such arrangements could undermine the egalitarian spirit of live performances.
Others argue that the presence of these dedicated fans adds to the concert's atmosphere, suggesting that their enthusiasm and commitment enhance the overall experience for all attendees.
In summary, the thread reflects a microcosm of the broader discussions in fan communities about access, fairness, and the evolving dynamics of live music events.

This is fucking awesome! And scary.

I was just thinking 'do i even know whats going on here anymore'.

then this post pops up. Brilliant

We have seen it all my friend over the years.

StardogChamp79 · May 16

Man… I think some guy wrote a song about society or something. I will have to look up the guy. Does anyone know?

BM195460 · May 16

helplessdancer said:

sooo pittsburgh here we come !! 2nd night only. need corduroy & alive night 2. ed....
$350 is what i paid/ticket ...and i could care less about the rail rats gang !

Are you seriously worried they won’t play Alive?

ComeToTX · May 16

BM195460 said:

helplessdancer said:

sooo pittsburgh here we come !! 2nd night only. need corduroy & alive night 2. ed....
$350 is what i paid/ticket ...and i could care less about the rail rats gang !

Are you seriously worried they won’t play Alive?

haha

Howdidthishappen · May 16

I got GA for this tour and spent 2 days camping with the Pit Crew. Most were amazing and welcoming...some were not. I did my best to be agreeable and avoid drama, just as I would if I were at the concert with seats. I can only speak for my experience, but I would camp with the regulars again 🤷

pjl44 · May 16

Even the net positive reviews reference this pack of jackals that you shouldn't make eye contact with. Great stuff.

Berlin2000 · May 16

I have reached the - current - end of the thread, yay! Having ChatGPT do the summary was a great idea, indeed. And I agree with those saying it’s impressive and scary at the same time 😳

mookeywrench · May 16

What is ChatGPT's proposed solution?

Berlin2000 · May 16

About the “rail gang”: I think I’ve had GA 3 times so far - twice through the TenClub in Wrigley 2016 and 2018 and once through a super nice fan here on the forum for Raleigh II (thanks again, @JG82640 ). Since so far, I’ve never had the ambition to make it to the rail, I have never personally encountered the people in the front and if I have, I didn’t know who they were.

Since “getting rail” is not such a big deal for me, I never gave it much thought, but assumed that the people who get rail regularly are super committed fans who have been following the band since the earliest days. I could see how that would lead to them having a special relationship with the band, maybe even to the degree where the band or people affiliated with the band trust them to keep people in the GA line in check or whatever. After all, GA is a huge deal for many fans and there is a certain etiquette or set of rules you’re supposed to follow when you’re in that line.

I don’t mind older and more experienced fans showing the “newbies” the PJ way, in fact, I kind of liked that about the TenClub so far. (This is the only fan club I’m part of though, so I have nothing to compare it with).

If my theory were correct and the people in front are mainly comprised of this type of fan (longtime fans who have been following the band all over the world and who kind of grew organically with the band and its success), I would have no problem with that. If however, a certain group of people took over the process at some point in time (say in the last 10-20 years) and if that leads to other fans having less of a chance to get GA, I would probably want that addressed.

And here I thought I had nothing to say about this …

pjl44 · May 16

https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/308153/disappointed-in-pearl-jam-fans#latest

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demetrios · May 16

helplessdancer said:

imo, if it's the same people upfront, at all shows, then, there is something going on.

Indeed. Also the same people you see upfront on the rail are the same people you will see upfront in the early merch line. And, the same people you see upfront on the rail will be partying it out @ the preparties in the afternoon.

RE4790 · May 16

mookeywrench said:

What is ChatGPT's proposed solution?

Sell merch packs via 10c and bring back seats

PJNB · May 16

demetrios said:

helplessdancer said:

imo, if it's the same people upfront, at all shows, then, there is something going on.

Indeed. Also the same people you see upfront on the rail are the same people you will see upfront in the early merch line. And, the same people you see upfront on the rail will be partying it out @ the preparties in the afternoon.

My favourite was when people went to Apollo before MSG 22 and somehow after being gone all day waiting in line trying to get into Apollo and seeing the show still were able to keep their top spot for MSG.

Imagine someone not in that circle trying to pull that bullshit off.

nicknyr15 · May 16

pjl44 said:

https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/308153/disappointed-in-pearl-jam-fans#latest

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Lol

Same folks up front

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