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  • RE4790
    RE4790 Posts: 826
    What advantage would a ticket broker have?  They can't receive 10c tickets through bypassing F2F right?  I can see having API access being huge for day-of sales though.
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,961
    The whole ticket broker thing sounds like complete nonsense to me. What do I know?


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  • KJ228171
    KJ228171 Posts: 475
    bootlegger10 said:
    I've learned that this group of "front liners" are an extension of PJ security.  We should be thanking these people for their sacrifice, just like medical personnel in 2020-2022, and military folks in harms way.  

    Personally, I could see where the band likes having the same folks in the front every night as if I were security, I would like to keep an eye on people that seem to want more of a relationship with the band than the average person (which for 99.9% is no relationship).  So they have let the system be as it is so all of those people are together in the front.  

    But it’s not as if the crowd two to eight people deep are a bunch of rabble-rouser. In reality most GA audiences aren’t outside of the hard core/ metal scene. Twenty One Pilots literally come down and play on top of their PIT audiences and their fans are as passionate as any. All the people I’m encountered in that 2nd grouping a further out have been fantastic. All the people I’ve interacted on the board have been fantastic. They all reflect the majority of the fan base. I don’t particularly care if people want to speed the time for rail as long as it’s not at the expense of others and especially other 10c members.
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,795
    JK109224 said:
    They won't bring back seated rows up front, purely from a financial perspective. Easy money.


  • mrk2
    mrk2 Finland Posts: 2,093
    PJINFLA said:
    Fortunately the tour ends Sunday and these folks will have to go back to their miserable lives.
    Then they can spend their time operating and selling all of the merch they have been hoarding on Facebooks PJBAY and Ebay.
    How do they manage to line up for the rail and also merch at the same time?
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,901
    RE4790 said:
    What advantage would a ticket broker have?  They can't receive 10c tickets through bypassing F2F right?  I can see having API access being huge for day-of sales though.
    The posts/rumor states that said person is also using a bot to snag the tickets. Then the broker license and other technology being used by brokers allows them to generate the needed barcode to resell.
  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,812
    mrk2 said:
    PJINFLA said:
    Fortunately the tour ends Sunday and these folks will have to go back to their miserable lives.
    Then they can spend their time operating and selling all of the merch they have been hoarding on Facebooks PJBAY and Ebay.
    How do they manage to line up for the rail and also merch at the same time?
    Split personality disorder, most likely.
  • RE4790
    RE4790 Posts: 826
    mace1229 said:
    RE4790 said:
    What advantage would a ticket broker have?  They can't receive 10c tickets through bypassing F2F right?  I can see having API access being huge for day-of sales though.
    The posts/rumor states that said person is also using a bot to snag the tickets. Then the broker license and other technology being used by brokers allows them to generate the needed barcode to resell.

    Gotcha.  So from the data on TM's website it seems using the Discovery API to bypass the normal UI buying process allows for automated checking of inventory approximately every 20 seconds continuously between the on sale time and the show.  I wonder if that means bypassing the waiting room as well.
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,961
    mrk2 said:
    PJINFLA said:
    Fortunately the tour ends Sunday and these folks will have to go back to their miserable lives.
    Then they can spend their time operating and selling all of the merch they have been hoarding on Facebooks PJBAY and Ebay.
    How do they manage to line up for the rail and also merch at the same time?
    Now this does happen I've seen it many times


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • Chrrie
    Chrrie Posts: 435
    RE4790 said:
    mace1229 said:
    RE4790 said:
    What advantage would a ticket broker have?  They can't receive 10c tickets through bypassing F2F right?  I can see having API access being huge for day-of sales though.
    The posts/rumor states that said person is also using a bot to snag the tickets. Then the broker license and other technology being used by brokers allows them to generate the needed barcode to resell.

    Gotcha.  So from the data on TM's website it seems using the Discovery API to bypass the normal UI buying process allows for automated checking of inventory approximately every 20 seconds continuously between the on sale time and the show.  I wonder if that means bypassing the waiting room as well.
    Their rate limit is actually 5 times per second 
  • KJ228171
    KJ228171 Posts: 475
    RE4790 said:
    What advantage would a ticket broker have?  They can't receive 10c tickets through bypassing F2F right?  I can see having API access being huge for day-of sales though.
    The first is they don’t get the “Your activity has been paused” that us regular folks get. It always then to become a Ticketmaster partner and access to their APIs meaning they have an advantage to get highly sought after tickets like GA.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    Shaindli1 said:
    My first time was last night. I lined up just before 9am and the experience was great. Everyone was friendly and many went out of their way to help and make sure I'm doing ok, both during the long wait and once we were inside. Met a bunch of extra cool people that I can't wait to see again.

    Doing the whole thing again on Friday. Come say hi!
    A positive first hand experience from a first timer. 

    Weird. 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    nicknyr15 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Chrrie said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    So nobody will name this person. Why?
    If the person is at every show and people have spent 24 hrs with them in a line.
    Why no name?
    It’s honestly really obvious if you’ve been watching the fan to fan threads for the past couple tours 
    There was a name that popped immediately to mind and I've been curious to see if I'm right
    Same 
    I've suspected a certain someone since well before 10pacer dropped that info. 
  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,080
    lastexitlondon said:
    mrk2 said:
    PJINFLA said:
    Fortunately the tour ends Sunday and these folks will have to go back to their miserable lives.
    Then they can spend their time operating and selling all of the merch they have been hoarding on Facebooks PJBAY and Ebay.
    How do they manage to line up for the rail and also merch at the same time?
    Now this does happen I've seen it many times
    They leave their spot in the camp out line, but have it saved by the Jam Clan.
  • lexicondevil
    lexicondevil Posts: 2,253
    josevolution said:
    I’m shocked at what has come out about a member of 10C no really I am! I never thought that something like this would surface when I started this thread, Damn 
    I'm taking this thread and pitching a reality TV show to a network. Stay tuned for Same Folks Up Front the series.
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  • runstaples
    runstaples WY/NC Posts: 1,080
    Its like that movie Backdraft, turns out one of firefighters has been starting all the fires.
    Appeared to be an animal, yet so polite.
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,961
    mookeywrench said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    mrk2 said:
    PJINFLA said:
    Fortunately the tour ends Sunday and these folks will have to go back to their miserable lives.
    Then they can spend their time operating and selling all of the merch they have been hoarding on Facebooks PJBAY and Ebay.
    How do they manage to line up for the rail and also merch at the same time?
    Now this does happen I've seen it many times
    They leave their spot in the camp out line, but have it saved by the Jam Clan.
    Or the ticket buddy I guess.


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,961
    Merkin Baller said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Chrrie said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    So nobody will name this person. Why?
    If the person is at every show and people have spent 24 hrs with them in a line.
    Why no name?
    It’s honestly really obvious if you’ve been watching the fan to fan threads for the past couple tours 
    There was a name that popped immediately to mind and I've been curious to see if I'm right
    Same 
    I've suspected a certain someone since well before 10pacer dropped that info. 
    I too wondered and want someone to name the person they have an issue with.whats the problem with someone saying who has done wrong that way it can be put right, no?


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,458
    lastexitlondon said:
    mrk2 said:
    PJINFLA said:
    Fortunately the tour ends Sunday and these folks will have to go back to their miserable lives.
    Then they can spend their time operating and selling all of the merch they have been hoarding on Facebooks PJBAY and Ebay.
    How do they manage to line up for the rail and also merch at the same time?
    Now this does happen I've seen it many times
    The line buddy system makes it possible. A group of 40 spli between the 2.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,795
    lexicondevil said:
    josevolution said:
    I’m shocked at what has come out about a member of 10C no really I am! I never thought that something like this would surface when I started this thread, Damn 
    I'm taking this thread and pitching a reality TV show to a network. Stay tuned for Same Folks Up Front the series.
    Can't wait to see that one episode that talks about the same folks up front also are the same folks in front of the early Pearl Jam merch line. How do they do it? You'll find out. 

    Followed by that 2nd episode where the same folks up front enjoy the afternoon at the prepares blocks away from the venue. How do they do it & not get caught? A must episode to see. 

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