I had ChatGPT provide a summary for those just joining.
The Pearl Jam community forum thread titled "Same Folks Up Front" delves into the recurring presence of certain fans at the front of the stage during concerts. Participants express a range of opinions, from curiosity about the consistency of these individuals to concerns about fairness and exclusivity in ticketing.
Some forum members speculate that these frequent front-row attendees might be affiliated with the band's security or have established relationships with the band, leading to their preferential positioning. This has sparked debates about the transparency and fairness of ticketing processes, with some fans feeling that such arrangements could undermine the egalitarian spirit of live performances.
Others argue that the presence of these dedicated fans adds to the concert's atmosphere, suggesting that their enthusiasm and commitment enhance the overall experience for all attendees.
In summary, the thread reflects a microcosm of the broader discussions in fan communities about access, fairness, and the evolving dynamics of live music events.
This is fucking awesome! And scary.
"A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
I have GA again tomorrow. I'm hoping the awesomeness of Raleigh N2 (the night my GA cherry was popped) repeats itself. People were just generous and kind. I'm always kinda clueless, confused and a little anxious but folks took care of me and answered all my questions. A few also fed me because I had nothing to eat all day. Got water from two people so I don't dehydrate.
This setup is different because I'll leave the car at the hotel so a bit more cumbersome with the chair and things. Have yet to figure it all out.
I'll see you tomorrow outside or inside. Please come say hi to me. I don't bite... hard!
I have GA again tomorrow. I'm hoping the awesomeness of Raleigh N2 (the night my GA cherry was popped) repeats itself. People were just generous and kind. I'm always kinda clueless, confused and a little anxious but folks took care of me and answered all my questions. A few also fed me because I had nothing to eat all day. Got water from two people so I don't dehydrate.
This setup is different because I'll leave the car at the hotel so a bit more cumbersome with the chair and things. Have yet to figure it all out.
I'll see you tomorrow outside or inside. Please come say hi to me. I don't bite... hard!
I had ChatGPT provide a summary for those just joining.
The Pearl Jam community forum thread titled "Same Folks Up Front" delves into the recurring presence of certain fans at the front of the stage during concerts. Participants express a range of opinions, from curiosity about the consistency of these individuals to concerns about fairness and exclusivity in ticketing.
Some forum members speculate that these frequent front-row attendees might be affiliated with the band's security or have established relationships with the band, leading to their preferential positioning. This has sparked debates about the transparency and fairness of ticketing processes, with some fans feeling that such arrangements could undermine the egalitarian spirit of live performances.
Others argue that the presence of these dedicated fans adds to the concert's atmosphere, suggesting that their enthusiasm and commitment enhance the overall experience for all attendees.
In summary, the thread reflects a microcosm of the broader discussions in fan communities about access, fairness, and the evolving dynamics of live music events.
This is fucking awesome! And scary.
I was just thinking 'do i even know whats going on here anymore'.
I have GA again tomorrow. I'm hoping the awesomeness of Raleigh N2 (the night my GA cherry was popped) repeats itself. People were just generous and kind. I'm always kinda clueless, confused and a little anxious but folks took care of me and answered all my questions. A few also fed me because I had nothing to eat all day. Got water from two people so I don't dehydrate.
This setup is different because I'll leave the car at the hotel so a bit more cumbersome with the chair and things. Have yet to figure it all out.
I'll see you tomorrow outside or inside. Please come say hi to me. I don't bite... hard!
I had ChatGPT provide a summary for those just joining.
The Pearl Jam community forum thread titled "Same Folks Up Front" delves into the recurring presence of certain fans at the front of the stage during concerts. Participants express a range of opinions, from curiosity about the consistency of these individuals to concerns about fairness and exclusivity in ticketing.
Some forum members speculate that these frequent front-row attendees might be affiliated with the band's security or have established relationships with the band, leading to their preferential positioning. This has sparked debates about the transparency and fairness of ticketing processes, with some fans feeling that such arrangements could undermine the egalitarian spirit of live performances.
Others argue that the presence of these dedicated fans adds to the concert's atmosphere, suggesting that their enthusiasm and commitment enhance the overall experience for all attendees.
In summary, the thread reflects a microcosm of the broader discussions in fan communities about access, fairness, and the evolving dynamics of live music events.
This is fucking awesome! And scary.
I was just thinking 'do i even know whats going on here anymore'.
then this post pops up. Brilliant
We have seen it all my friend over the years.
brixton 93
astoria 06
albany 06
hartford 06
reading 06
barcelona 06
paris 06
wembley 07
dusseldorf 07
nijmegen 07
this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
Man… I think some guy wrote a song about society or something. I will have to look up the guy. Does anyone know?
Alpine Valley Music Theatre East Troy, Wisconsin (September 03, 2011); Alpine Valley Music Theatre East Troy, Wisconsin (September 04, 2011); Deluna Fest Pensacola, FL (September 21, 2012); Wrigley Field (July 19, 2013); Milwaukee, WI (October 20, 2014); Wrigley Field I (August 20, 2016); Wrigley Field II (August 22, 2016); Home Shows Seattle Night 1 (August 08, 2018), Home Shows Seattle Night 2 (August 10, 2018), Apollo Theater (September 10, 2022), Madison Square Garden (September 11, 2022), Bourbon & Beyond Louisville (September 17th, 2022).
I got GA for this tour and spent 2 days camping with the Pit Crew. Most were amazing and welcoming...some were not. I did my best to be agreeable and avoid drama, just as I would if I were at the concert with seats. I can only speak for my experience, but I would camp with the regulars again 🤷
I have reached the - current - end of the thread, yay! Having ChatGPT do the summary was a great idea, indeed. And I agree with those saying it’s impressive and scary at the same time 😳
PJ: 2000-6-25: Berlin, GER | 2005-3-18: Seattle, WA | 2006-6-30: Milwaukee, WI | 2009-8-24: Chicago, IL | 2012-7-5: Berlin, GER | 2013-7-19: Chicago, IL | 2014-10-17: Moline, IL | 2014-10-20: Milwaukee, WI | 2016-8-20: Chicago 1, IL | 2016-8-22: Chicago 2, IL | 2018-8-18: Chicago N1 | 2018-8-20: Chicago 2, IL | 2021-9-18: Asbury Park, NJ | 2022-9-11: MSG, NY | 2023-9-5: Chicago, IL |
EV: 2017-9-2: Dana Point, CA | 2022-2-3: NYC 1, NY | 2022-2-4: NYC 2, NY
About the “rail gang”: I think I’ve had GA 3 times so far - twice through the TenClub in Wrigley 2016 and 2018 and once through a super nice fan here on the forum for Raleigh II (thanks again, @JG82640 ). Since so far, I’ve never had the ambition to make it to the rail, I have never personally encountered the people in the front and if I have, I didn’t know who they were.
Since “getting rail” is not such a big deal for me, I never gave it much thought, but assumed that the people who get rail regularly are super committed fans who have been following the band since the earliest days. I could see how that would lead to them having a special relationship with the band, maybe even to the degree where the band or people affiliated with the band trust them to keep people in the GA line in check or whatever. After all, GA is a huge deal for many fans and there is a certain etiquette or set of rules you’re supposed to follow when you’re in that line.
I don’t mind older and more experienced fans showing the “newbies” the PJ way, in fact, I kind of liked that about the TenClub so far. (This is the only fan club I’m part of though, so I have nothing to compare it with).
If my theory were correct and the people in front are mainly comprised of this type of fan (longtime fans who have been following the band all over the world and who kind of grew organically with the band and its success), I would have no problem with that. If however, a certain group of people took over the process at some point in time (say in the last 10-20 years) and if that leads to other fans having less of a chance to get GA, I would probably want that addressed.
And here I thought I had nothing to say about this …
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PJ: 2000-6-25: Berlin, GER | 2005-3-18: Seattle, WA | 2006-6-30: Milwaukee, WI | 2009-8-24: Chicago, IL | 2012-7-5: Berlin, GER | 2013-7-19: Chicago, IL | 2014-10-17: Moline, IL | 2014-10-20: Milwaukee, WI | 2016-8-20: Chicago 1, IL | 2016-8-22: Chicago 2, IL | 2018-8-18: Chicago N1 | 2018-8-20: Chicago 2, IL | 2021-9-18: Asbury Park, NJ | 2022-9-11: MSG, NY | 2023-9-5: Chicago, IL |
EV: 2017-9-2: Dana Point, CA | 2022-2-3: NYC 1, NY | 2022-2-4: NYC 2, NY
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then this post pops up. Brilliant
🤣🤣🤣🤣
i wish i wish i wish i wish, i guess it never stops
astoria 06
albany 06
hartford 06
reading 06
barcelona 06
paris 06
wembley 07
dusseldorf 07
nijmegen 07
this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
Put it in my pocket when it should've been framed