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  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,733
    edited May 13
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    I think a GA pit lottery 'a la Springsteen would be a good way to go.

    Or, go back to reserved front floor with a lottery for the first 2 rows (says the dude with the 5-digit member number)
    What happens if someone gets the first number, but the person they are with gets the last number - it splits between them. Does their partner get to cut the line, or does the other person have to go to the back? I have never done a pit lottery for any show - so genuinely interested.
    I've done so many Springsteen lottery.. they never split up people who are together. If you get the first number abd your buddy in front of you was last they are now with you. But that's it... everyone else falls in behind you in order. 
    It would solve alot

    Post edited by gotthebottle on
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,821
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    I think a GA pit lottery 'a la Springsteen would be a good way to go.

    Or, go back to reserved front floor with a lottery for the first 2 rows (says the dude with the 5-digit member number)
    What happens if someone gets the first number, but the person they are with gets the last number - it splits between them. Does their partner get to cut the line, or does the other person have to go to the back? I have never done a pit lottery for any show - so genuinely interested.
    Not sure how Springsteen does it, but perhaps they give out wristbands with sequential numbers.....just a guess.
    That I get. But say I am with 5 people are our numbers are 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 and 20 gets called as the first number. Where in line do 15-19 go who are there with #20.

    Not sure what they do to prevent that.....good question!
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,950
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    I think a GA pit lottery 'a la Springsteen would be a good way to go.

    Or, go back to reserved front floor with a lottery for the first 2 rows (says the dude with the 5-digit member number)
    What happens if someone gets the first number, but the person they are with gets the last number - it splits between them. Does their partner get to cut the line, or does the other person have to go to the back? I have never done a pit lottery for any show - so genuinely interested.
    Not sure how Springsteen does it, but perhaps they give out wristbands with sequential numbers.....just a guess.
    That I get. But say I am with 5 people are our numbers are 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 and 20 gets called as the first number. Where in line do 15-19 go who are there with #20.

    15-19 could move to the back of the pit with number 20.  No one would mind people moving back.  
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,733
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    I think a GA pit lottery 'a la Springsteen would be a good way to go.

    Or, go back to reserved front floor with a lottery for the first 2 rows (says the dude with the 5-digit member number)
    What happens if someone gets the first number, but the person they are with gets the last number - it splits between them. Does their partner get to cut the line, or does the other person have to go to the back? I have never done a pit lottery for any show - so genuinely interested.
    Not sure how Springsteen does it, but perhaps they give out wristbands with sequential numbers.....just a guess.
    That I get. But say I am with 5 people are our numbers are 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 and 20 gets called as the first number. Where in line do 15-19 go who are there with #20.

    Not sure what they do to prevent that.....good question!
    READ MY POST. 
    IF 15-20 HAVE TICKETS TOGETHER THEY STAY TOGETHER. 
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,950
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    I think a GA pit lottery 'a la Springsteen would be a good way to go.

    Or, go back to reserved front floor with a lottery for the first 2 rows (says the dude with the 5-digit member number)
    What happens if someone gets the first number, but the person they are with gets the last number - it splits between them. Does their partner get to cut the line, or does the other person have to go to the back? I have never done a pit lottery for any show - so genuinely interested.
    Not sure how Springsteen does it, but perhaps they give out wristbands with sequential numbers.....just a guess.
    That I get. But say I am with 5 people are our numbers are 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 and 20 gets called as the first number. Where in line do 15-19 go who are there with #20.

    Not sure what they do to prevent that.....good question!
    It’s general admission.  There is never a guarantee that people could be together.  If people want to experience the show together, it’s probably best to grab reserved seats all together in the public sale.  
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • KJ228171
    KJ228171 Posts: 465
    edited May 13
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    I think a GA pit lottery 'a la Springsteen would be a good way to go.

    Or, go back to reserved front floor with a lottery for the first 2 rows (says the dude with the 5-digit member number)
    What happens if someone gets the first number, but the person they are with gets the last number - it splits between them. Does their partner get to cut the line, or does the other person have to go to the back? I have never done a pit lottery for any show - so genuinely interested.
    Not sure how Springsteen does it, but perhaps they give out wristbands with sequential numbers.....just a guess.
    That I get. But say I am with 5 people are our numbers are 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 and 20 gets called as the first number. Where in line do 15-19 go who are there with #20.

    Back of the line. #20 can join them or stay at the front. The rules would have to be unbendable or you will have “groups” of 10, 20, 40, 100 to game the system.
    Post edited by KJ228171 on
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,950
    edited May 13
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    I think a GA pit lottery 'a la Springsteen would be a good way to go.

    Or, go back to reserved front floor with a lottery for the first 2 rows (says the dude with the 5-digit member number)
    What happens if someone gets the first number, but the person they are with gets the last number - it splits between them. Does their partner get to cut the line, or does the other person have to go to the back? I have never done a pit lottery for any show - so genuinely interested.
    Not sure how Springsteen does it, but perhaps they give out wristbands with sequential numbers.....just a guess.
    That I get. But say I am with 5 people are our numbers are 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 and 20 gets called as the first number. Where in line do 15-19 go who are there with #20.

    Not sure what they do to prevent that.....good question!
    READ MY POST. 
    IF 15-20 HAVE TICKETS TOGETHER THEY STAY TOGETHER. 
    5 people get to the front of the line?
    Post edited by on2legs on
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • jdopj
    jdopj Posts: 770
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    I think a GA pit lottery 'a la Springsteen would be a good way to go.

    Or, go back to reserved front floor with a lottery for the first 2 rows (says the dude with the 5-digit member number)
    What happens if someone gets the first number, but the person they are with gets the last number - it splits between them. Does their partner get to cut the line, or does the other person have to go to the back? I have never done a pit lottery for any show - so genuinely interested.
    Not sure how Springsteen does it, but perhaps they give out wristbands with sequential numbers.....just a guess.
    That I get. But say I am with 5 people are our numbers are 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 and 20 gets called as the first number. Where in line do 15-19 go who are there with #20.

    Not sure what they do to prevent that.....good question!
    READ MY POST. 
    IF 15-20 HAVE TICKETS TOGETHER THEY STAY TOGETHER. 
    Except there can’t be 15-20 people tied together. There is only 2. If it’s done you’re way than that system doesn’t work either. They should get split up. If they want to be together so bad go to the back
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    I think a GA pit lottery 'a la Springsteen would be a good way to go.

    Or, go back to reserved front floor with a lottery for the first 2 rows (says the dude with the 5-digit member number)
    What happens if someone gets the first number, but the person they are with gets the last number - it splits between them. Does their partner get to cut the line, or does the other person have to go to the back? I have never done a pit lottery for any show - so genuinely interested.
    Not sure how Springsteen does it, but perhaps they give out wristbands with sequential numbers.....just a guess.
    That I get. But say I am with 5 people are our numbers are 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 and 20 gets called as the first number. Where in line do 15-19 go who are there with #20.

    Not sure what they do to prevent that.....good question!
    Maybe they'd be gracious and let the whole group stay with you but otherwise seems obvious to just go to the back of the line with your friends. If that's not obvious I think it's worth considering some things.
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,851
    edited May 13
    Yeah what's to stop someone (the cartel) to say they have 20 people and they all need to be grouped with the "winner".

    I think it would be limited to purchased pairs stay together.
    Post edited by MayDay10 on
  • Vytis33
    Vytis33 Posts: 196
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    I think a GA pit lottery 'a la Springsteen would be a good way to go.

    Or, go back to reserved front floor with a lottery for the first 2 rows (says the dude with the 5-digit member number)
    What happens if someone gets the first number, but the person they are with gets the last number - it splits between them. Does their partner get to cut the line, or does the other person have to go to the back? I have never done a pit lottery for any show - so genuinely interested.
    Not sure how Springsteen does it, but perhaps they give out wristbands with sequential numbers.....just a guess.
    That I get. But say I am with 5 people are our numbers are 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 and 20 gets called as the first number. Where in line do 15-19 go who are there with #20.

    Not sure what they do to prevent that.....good question!
    READ MY POST. 
    IF 15-20 HAVE TICKETS TOGETHER THEY STAY TOGETHER. 
    This is correct.  They let groups stay together within reason obviously.  
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,950
    When I bought tickets for Bruce last fall at Camden Yards the max tickets for GA it would let me buy was 2.  If I wanted more I had to move back to reserved seats. 
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,733
    THEY DON'T SPLIT PEOPLE WHO HAVE TICKETS ON PHONE TOGETHER. IF YOU HAVE YOUR OWN TICKET ON PHONE YOU GO WHERE THE DRAW DICTATES.
    honestly.  It works across 50 shows I did.. from the start of it in 2007-8 
  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 11,689
    on2legs said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    I think a GA pit lottery 'a la Springsteen would be a good way to go.

    Or, go back to reserved front floor with a lottery for the first 2 rows (says the dude with the 5-digit member number)
    What happens if someone gets the first number, but the person they are with gets the last number - it splits between them. Does their partner get to cut the line, or does the other person have to go to the back? I have never done a pit lottery for any show - so genuinely interested.
    Not sure how Springsteen does it, but perhaps they give out wristbands with sequential numbers.....just a guess.
    That I get. But say I am with 5 people are our numbers are 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 and 20 gets called as the first number. Where in line do 15-19 go who are there with #20.

    Not sure what they do to prevent that.....good question!
    READ MY POST. 
    IF 15-20 HAVE TICKETS TOGETHER THEY STAY TOGETHER. 
    5 people get to the front of the line?

  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,950
    edited May 13
    MayDay10 said:
    Yeah what's to stop someone (the cartel) to say they have 20 people and they all need to be grouped with the "winner".

    I think it would be limited to purchased pairs stay together.

    Post edited by on2legs on
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 11,689

  • DD123593
    DD123593 Posts: 58
    pjhawks said:
    Chrrie said:
    GlowGirl said:
    Vytis33 said:
    I’m sure this has been mentioned already haven’t read back but Springsteen handled this the best.  Show up with a GA ticket between 1pm-5pm and get a numbered wristband.  Maybe 1000 people show up for a wristband sometimes less depending on the city.  Everyone with a wristband comes back at 6pm and they draw one number let’s say it’s 257 now they’re the first person in.  Then everyone else files in numerically after that.  Simple. 
    I'm torn on this system. I feel that with this system there are some people who will never win that GA lottery and have a chance to get on rail. With our system everyone has the chance to get on rail if they can put in a bit of time and effort. So, if someone really wants it and can organize themselves to try it at least once, they have a chance. With that lottery they may never get the chance.

    Last year at Fenway I had friends who experienced the rail. They really wanted it at least once. They camped out and got to experience the rail. They said it was fun. They weren't sure if they would do it again, but were really happy they got to experience it at least once. With a GA lottery their number may never come up.

    That’s what gets me M. There’s people who don’t queue now and think it’s dumb, apparently think being on the rail is a waste of time and that the sound sucks, but they are so bothered by people who do it that they want to blow up the entire thing and make it a lottery that they might never win and still will never get to experience rail. Just to take the experience away from people who do it now or want to do it some day. 
    Do you not think the same people getting ga and up front is selfish? It’s hoarding a product for themselves when many people would like the opportunity once or twice especially for their home town shows.  No matter how they go about getting there it’s just selfish greed. Would it kill these people to be 3 or 4 people back?  
    Hustle costs nothing 
  • YAKIMATSU
    YAKIMATSU Santa Fe Posts: 1,132
    DD123593 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Chrrie said:
    GlowGirl said:
    Vytis33 said:
    I’m sure this has been mentioned already haven’t read back but Springsteen handled this the best.  Show up with a GA ticket between 1pm-5pm and get a numbered wristband.  Maybe 1000 people show up for a wristband sometimes less depending on the city.  Everyone with a wristband comes back at 6pm and they draw one number let’s say it’s 257 now they’re the first person in.  Then everyone else files in numerically after that.  Simple. 
    I'm torn on this system. I feel that with this system there are some people who will never win that GA lottery and have a chance to get on rail. With our system everyone has the chance to get on rail if they can put in a bit of time and effort. So, if someone really wants it and can organize themselves to try it at least once, they have a chance. With that lottery they may never get the chance.

    Last year at Fenway I had friends who experienced the rail. They really wanted it at least once. They camped out and got to experience the rail. They said it was fun. They weren't sure if they would do it again, but were really happy they got to experience it at least once. With a GA lottery their number may never come up.

    That’s what gets me M. There’s people who don’t queue now and think it’s dumb, apparently think being on the rail is a waste of time and that the sound sucks, but they are so bothered by people who do it that they want to blow up the entire thing and make it a lottery that they might never win and still will never get to experience rail. Just to take the experience away from people who do it now or want to do it some day. 
    Do you not think the same people getting ga and up front is selfish? It’s hoarding a product for themselves when many people would like the opportunity once or twice especially for their home town shows.  No matter how they go about getting there it’s just selfish greed. Would it kill these people to be 3 or 4 people back?  
    Hustle costs nothing 
    Entitlement is free too, so what?
    Being able to camp out is hustling?
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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,950
    The guy who is working a double shift before the concert and can’t lineup for two days is hustling too.  
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • Spurs14
    Spurs14 Buffalo Grove, IL Posts: 328
    GlowGirl said:
    With our system everyone has the chance to get on rail if they can put in a bit of time and effort. So, if someone really wants it and can organize themselves to try it at least once, they have a chance. 

    Not everyone has the time (a full day+) to do that. Jobs and life get in the way, especially considering the demographic of the fan base nowadays.

    Springsteen system is the way. Still requires a bit of a commitment, but far less.  That or scrap GA, bring back seated floor and lotto the first 15 rows.