Same folks up front

Go Animal

nicknyr15 said:

on2legs said:

Please give us hint as to who the covert ticket broker is among us.  

Yes please. 

Sure as shit ain't me. I went 0-10 in the lottery😅BLACKLISTED (which was totally unrelated to my public stance on PJ Premium, I'm sure😏)

darwinstheory

Bentleyspop said:

In a coincidence as I was reading this thread SiriusXM PJ radio was playing the Albany 5/12/06 show where during encore break 1 Eddie comments on seeing the same fucking people in the front row again.
And then differentiating between normal fans and the freaks who want to hear the rare weird songs. Then plays Rats.

I love this! 🤣🤣🤣

ally12

bootleg said:

ally12 said:

For back to back shows like this, is it a common understanding that after N1 is done everyone who is doing GA for N2 line up at the venue gate. Everyone lines up and say wait 30 minutes for the crowds to dissipate.  After 30 mins or so, everyone who is in the GA will migrate to the camp out spot, and that’s where people will take turns to grab their gear and settle in for the night. 

Once the group migrates over to the camp out spot, whoever arrives  just lines up  behind the last camper.

Or is N2 handled differently and for N2 everyone goes to the camp out spot right away?  

And where is this common knowledge posted?  If it’s my first and only time ever trying for the rail how would I know any of this?

No, no, I don’t know anything. I’m just asking if lining up at the venue doors prior to migrating over to the camp out location WAS a thing and the Facebook poster missed the info. 

I’ve never tried to camp out back 2 back for shows, I would like to one day and just curious what the process is like post N1 show. 

Now we know there were  2 lines and everyone miss understood each other. 

Then I offered a suggestion on how to fix the issue, haha

sorry for the confusion! 

Chrrie

mace1229 said:

This topic comes up every tour. I've never camped out in line so I don't have a personal experience, but I've read plenty of stories.
And most of the bad stories seem to come from unofficial pre-lines and those who are camping out for the first time not know about said pre-lines. And why would they? Especially since many of the tours the band announces there are no official pre lines and no pre-lines will be honored, etc. But if you don't know about the unofficial secret pre-line and head to the GA line when the 10c told you to go line up, you get yelled at and accused of cutting.
I have to say I'd be pretty pissed and probably non-compliant if I followed the official rules and did exactly as instructed by the band only to be told to go to the end of the line because I was hanging out at the wrong bar all night and didn't check in with the right, unaffiliated-with-the-band, guy.

I know the GA campers don’t have a ton of fans here outside of those of us who do it and people who know us personally but this is why I don’t mind speaking up about it on social media. “I don’t do it but I’ve heard plenty of stories”. I heard stories too, but then I did it and saw it wasn’t anything like the rumors. Also I only started in 22 but to my knowledge the band has never sent any communication that pre-lines won’t be honored. The 10c has said unofficial numbering systems won’t be honored and I’ve seen plenty of emails that say camping isn’t allowed on the venue property. And again does everyone not do GA for other bands? Most have some kind of fan run pre-line and a lot of actual shenanigans to deal with. In fact to find the camping location at these venues I usually just look what people did for other artists with a camping community like Billie Eilish/Paramore/21 Pilots etc.

Leezestarr313

This whole discussion would stop if they brought back the front row lottery. I am sure the rail hogs would still find a way to satisfy their thirst of being up front all the time but maybe every so often the band would see someone new there who is equally deserving of the ecstasy even if they may not have spent an entire day in a tent in front of the venue. It may smell better up front too How boring is it too to see the same freaking faces in every tour video?

gotthebottle

Leezestarr313 said:

This whole discussion would stop if they brought back the front row lottery. I am sure the rail hogs would still find a way to satisfy their thirst of being up front all the time but maybe every so often the band would see someone new there who is equally deserving of the ecstasy even if they may not have spent an entire day in a tent in front of the venue. It may smell better up front too How boring is it too to see the same freaking faces in every tour video?

Very boring

CantKeepmedown

I say out all of them. It’s embarrassing that grown adults act this way. It shouldn’t matter that security would prefer to see familiar faces. Can’t imagine the band would be ok with people acting like pricks anytime someone new gets up front. Ridiculous. 

PJINFLA

Leezestarr313 said:

This whole discussion would stop if they brought back the front row lottery. I am sure the rail hogs would still find a way to satisfy their thirst of being up front all the time but maybe every so often the band would see someone new there who is equally deserving of the ecstasy even if they may not have spent an entire day in a tent in front of the venue. It may smell better up front too How boring is it too to see the same freaking faces in every tour video?

CantKeepmedown said:

I say out all of them. It’s embarrassing that grown adults act this way. It shouldn’t matter that security would prefer to see familiar faces. Can’t imagine the band would be ok with people acting like pricks anytime someone new gets up front. Ridiculous. 

Great idea!!!

Chrrie

Leezestarr313 said:

This whole discussion would stop if they brought back the front row lottery. I am sure the rail hogs would still find a way to satisfy their thirst of being up front all the time but maybe every so often the band would see someone new there who is equally deserving of the ecstasy even if they may not have spent an entire day in a tent in front of the venue. It may smell better up front too How boring is it too to see the same freaking faces in every tour video?

At every show so far this tour there have been people camping who were either doing their first show ever or first GA. Out of the 40 or so people on the rail any given night the regulars only make up a subset. 

Leezestarr313

Chrrie said:

Leezestarr313 said:

This whole discussion would stop if they brought back the front row lottery. I am sure the rail hogs would still find a way to satisfy their thirst of being up front all the time but maybe every so often the band would see someone new there who is equally deserving of the ecstasy even if they may not have spent an entire day in a tent in front of the venue. It may smell better up front too How boring is it too to see the same freaking faces in every tour video?

At every show so far this tour there have been people camping who were either doing their first show ever or first GA. Out of the 40 or so people on the rail any given night the regulars only make up a subset. 

See, to me the thing is there shouldn't be "regulars" at the rail. It should be new people every night.

Vytis33

I’m sure this has been mentioned already haven’t read back but Springsteen handled this the best.  Show up with a GA ticket between 1pm-5pm and get a numbered wristband.  Maybe 1000 people show up for a wristband sometimes less depending on the city.  Everyone with a wristband comes back at 6pm and they draw one number let’s say it’s 257 now they’re the first person in.  Then everyone else files in numerically after that.  Simple. 

Go Animal

Vytis33 said:

I’m sure this has been mentioned already haven’t read back but Springsteen handled this the best.  Show up with a GA ticket between 1pm-5pm and get a numbered wristband.  Maybe 1000 people show up for a wristband sometimes less depending on the city.  Everyone with a wristband comes back at 6pm and they draw one number let’s say it’s 257 now they’re the first person in.  Then everyone else files in numerically after that.  Simple. 

This is the way.

ally12

Vytis33 said:

I’m sure this has been mentioned already haven’t read back but Springsteen handled this the best.  Show up with a GA ticket between 1pm-5pm and get a numbered wristband.  Maybe 1000 people show up for a wristband sometimes less depending on the city.  Everyone with a wristband comes back at 6pm and they draw one number let’s say it’s 257 now they’re the first person in.  Then everyone else files in numerically after that.  Simple. 

I like this, would you know if they count up or down from 257? Would 256 be second in line? 

I would imagine the band would keep the single file to the pit safety measure in place. 

aisleseats

Vytis33 said:

I’m sure this has been mentioned already haven’t read back but Springsteen handled this the best.  Show up with a GA ticket between 1pm-5pm and get a numbered wristband.  Maybe 1000 people show up for a wristband sometimes less depending on the city.  Everyone with a wristband comes back at 6pm and they draw one number let’s say it’s 257 now they’re the first person in.  Then everyone else files in numerically after that.  Simple. 

That's how DMB does it now too. Of course, their rail mafia wasn't thrilled about it at first either. But it seems to be the safest and fairest way to go about it.

demetrios

Looks like John's post has been taken down over in that Facebook group.

Chrrie

aisleseats said:

Vytis33 said:

I’m sure this has been mentioned already haven’t read back but Springsteen handled this the best.  Show up with a GA ticket between 1pm-5pm and get a numbered wristband.  Maybe 1000 people show up for a wristband sometimes less depending on the city.  Everyone with a wristband comes back at 6pm and they draw one number let’s say it’s 257 now they’re the first person in.  Then everyone else files in numerically after that.  Simple. 

That's how DMB does it now too. Of course, their rail mafia wasn't thrilled about it at first either. But it seems to be the safest and fairest way to go about it.

Their rail mafia figured out you can enter the lottery as long as you have the link to the website because the system doesn’t check if the email address used actually won tickets. They’re all still up there. 

GhostChile

I received an unexpected Setlist after a show last year, just after the show finished.
I didnt ask for it, i just received by hand by a security guard. Actually he gave me one and gave my wife another one. Yes!

Wow, i was more impressed by the people around us !

Some offer 5.000 for a setlist, others wants to take pictures with us. We felt like celebrities for a while.

My point? 

I dont know. Im 45 and i dont care anymore about who got rail, who camp, who win, who gets a tambourine!

But i did! 

And some folks still care. So i respect them. Let them be. 

Vytis33

ally12 said:

Vytis33 said:

I’m sure this has been mentioned already haven’t read back but Springsteen handled this the best.  Show up with a GA ticket between 1pm-5pm and get a numbered wristband.  Maybe 1000 people show up for a wristband sometimes less depending on the city.  Everyone with a wristband comes back at 6pm and they draw one number let’s say it’s 257 now they’re the first person in.  Then everyone else files in numerically after that.  Simple. 

I like this, would you know if they count up or down from 257? Would 256 be second in line? 

I would imagine the band would keep the single file to the pit safety measure in place. 

258 would be second then 259 and so on.  Then everyone else with a GA ticket that didn’t show up to grab a wristband fills in GA whenever they get to the venue 

GlowGirl

Vytis33 said:

I’m sure this has been mentioned already haven’t read back but Springsteen handled this the best.  Show up with a GA ticket between 1pm-5pm and get a numbered wristband.  Maybe 1000 people show up for a wristband sometimes less depending on the city.  Everyone with a wristband comes back at 6pm and they draw one number let’s say it’s 257 now they’re the first person in.  Then everyone else files in numerically after that.  Simple. 

I'm torn on this system. I feel that with this system there are some people who will never win that GA lottery and have a chance to get on rail. With our system everyone has the chance to get on rail if they can put in a bit of time and effort. So, if someone really wants it and can organize themselves to try it at least once, they have a chance. With that lottery they may never get the chance.

Last year at Fenway I had friends who had never experienced the rail. They really wanted it at least once. They camped out and got to experience the rail. They said it was fun. They weren't sure if they would do it again, but were really happy they got to experience it at least once. With a GA lottery their number may never come up.

reedrothchild

Is it newer fans (the last few years) up front waiting in line for all of these shows? I can imagine folks who’ve been seeing them for years would be waiting in line for a band 15+ years past their prime… And if they are older, 40-50 year olds creating groups to game the system  every night to be up front is just sad and strange obsessive behavior. New flash- Ed doesn’t want to be your friend.