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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,247
    edited May 15
    pjl44 said:
    From the ticketing policy:


    In fairness there's also forum rules about gossip & talking about each other. 

    Just playing devil's advocate if we're going to reference the rules... I want to know as much as anyone and think I have an idea who it might be.
    Oh yeah I definitely don't think people should make guesses or whatever. If someone has the goods though it's a gray enough area where I'd fire away and let mods make the call. Maybe it winds up being more of a non-affiliated site discussion. 

    Oh...and message me your guess. First letter. I'm one for one on the matching game so far lol.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,280
    pjl44 said:
    pjl44 said:
    From the ticketing policy:


    In fairness there's also forum rules about gossip & talking about each other. 

    Just playing devil's advocate if we're going to reference the rules... I want to know as much as anyone and think I have an idea who it might be.
    Oh yeah I definitely don't think people should make guesses or whatever. If someone has the goods though it's a gray enough area where I'd fire away and let mods make the call. Maybe it winds up being more of a non-affiliated site discussion. 

    Oh...and message me your guess. First letter. I'm one for one on the matching game so far lol.
    I hear you.... based on one of the last posts about it though, I feel like we'll know soon enough. 
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,163
    PJINFLA said:
    I've learned that this group of "front liners" are an extension of PJ security.  We should be thanking these people for their sacrifice, just like medical personnel in 2020-2022, and military folks in harms way.  

    Personally, I could see where the band likes having the same folks in the front every night as if I were security, I would like to keep an eye on people that seem to want more of a relationship with the band than the average person (which for 99.9% is no relationship).  So they have let the system be as it is so all of those people are together in the front.  

    Give me a fucking break, the is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
    Why? It was mentioned earlier that the band likes this process because they believe the band's security likes this group of people and trusts them to be upfront versus weirdo stalker types. I was just joking that perhaps the weirdo stalker types are the ones that have to be upfront ever show and this is the way the band security keeps an eye on them.  I'm just being sarcastic.  This thread is abysmally stupid for grown adults.  Merch is dumb.  Being 5 feet away from the band versus 15 feet away from the band is dumb. 

    None of this matters, at all.   
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,247
    RE4790 said:
    pjl44 said:


    I don't see any issue with naming him. He's not doing anything illegal. It's just his friendships at risk to the extent that it even matters.

    Borderline doxxing.  Definitely not a very cash-money thing to do.

    How is posting a username doxxing lol
  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 10,365
    So much drama in the LBC…
  • ekwiptekwipt Vancouver Posts: 884
    CROJAM95 said:
    So much drama in the LBC…
    🎵 It’s kinda hard bein’ Ed V-E-double D 🎶 
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,693
    pjl44 said:
    From the ticketing policy:


    That refers to 10c tickets bought through 10c, not tickets bought directly through TM.
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,247
    edited May 15
    mace1229 said:
    pjl44 said:
    From the ticketing policy:


    That refers to 10c tickets bought through 10c, not tickets bought directly through TM.
    Right. I think the odds of tickets he received via the 10C being somewhere in the mix are high. Even if he's been extremely careful about that technicality, what if he's used this forum to jump on f2f links people post? Where would that potential transgression fall?

    You can't always control what happens if you hook up a random fan here with extras. It would certainly be nice to have a heads up if someone is running a professional operation though.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,407
    pjl44 said:
    RE4790 said:it’ll get the 
    pjl44 said:


    I don't see any issue with naming him. He's not doing anything illegal. It's just his friendships at risk to the extent that it even matters.

    Borderline doxxing.  Definitely not a very cash-money thing to do.

    How is posting a username doxxing lol
    It’ll get the thread closed in a hurry. 
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,247
    pjl44 said:
    RE4790 said:it’ll get the 
    pjl44 said:


    I don't see any issue with naming him. He's not doing anything illegal. It's just his friendships at risk to the extent that it even matters.

    Borderline doxxing.  Definitely not a very cash-money thing to do.

    How is posting a username doxxing lol
    It’ll get the thread closed in a hurry. 
    Possibly but still not doxxing 
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,247
    We need something to pass the time before everyone moves on to moaning about tomorrow's poster
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,693
    pjl44 said:
    mace1229 said:
    pjl44 said:
    From the ticketing policy:


    That refers to 10c tickets bought through 10c, not tickets bought directly through TM.
    Right. I think the odds of tickets he received via the 10C being somewhere in the mix are high. Even if he's been extremely careful about that technicality, what if he's used this forum to jump on f2f links people post? Where would that potential transgression fall?

    You can't always control what happens if you hook up a random fan here with extras. It would certainly be nice to have a heads up if someone is running a professional operation though.
    I don't think that matters. For one, there's been multiple times people post links and seem like no one got them. They end up going to the bots anyway. And he supposedly was using the bots to secure tickets.
    At that point, they aren't 10c tickets, they are TM tickets. I don't think 10c would have any jurisdiction to legally revoke the tickets bought from TM.

    As a 10c member who had to sell my pit tickets a couple weeks ago, I had zero concern I'd lose my membership if they got resold. I posted the link here in hopes they went to a fan, but wasn't concerned about my membership if they didn't.
    If 10c tracked them down somehow and confronted me, all I'd have to do is show them my F2F confirmation to prove I didn't resell them above face.
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,247
    mace1229 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mace1229 said:
    pjl44 said:
    From the ticketing policy:


    That refers to 10c tickets bought through 10c, not tickets bought directly through TM.
    Right. I think the odds of tickets he received via the 10C being somewhere in the mix are high. Even if he's been extremely careful about that technicality, what if he's used this forum to jump on f2f links people post? Where would that potential transgression fall?

    You can't always control what happens if you hook up a random fan here with extras. It would certainly be nice to have a heads up if someone is running a professional operation though.
    I don't think that matters. For one, there's been multiple times people post links and seem like no one got them. They end up going to the bots anyway. And he supposedly was using the bots to secure tickets.
    At that point, they aren't 10c tickets, they are TM tickets. I don't think 10c would have any jurisdiction to legally revoke the tickets bought from TM.

    As a 10c member who had to sell my pit tickets a couple weeks ago, I had zero concern I'd lose my membership if they got resold. I posted the link here in hopes they went to a fan, but wasn't concerned about my membership if they didn't.
    If 10c tracked them down somehow and confronted me, all I'd have to do is show them my F2F confirmation to prove I didn't resell them above face.
    Got it
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 14,493
    pjl44 said:
    We need something to pass the time before everyone moves on to moaning about tomorrow's poster
    So true 
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  • enddemenddem Posts: 167
    I’m shocked at what has come out about a member of 10C no really I am! I never thought that something like this would surface when I started this thread, Damn 
    I'm taking this thread and pitching a reality TV show to a network. Stay tuned for Same Folks Up Front the series.
    Honestly, cobbling together some of these bullying episodes would be a pretty cool short story
  • DE4173DE4173 Posts: 2,311
    pjl44 said:
    We need something to pass the time before everyone moves on to moaning about tomorrow's poster
    *Fake but:




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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,242
    ekwipt said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    So much drama in the LBC…
    🎵 It’s kinda hard bein’ Ed V-E-double D 🎶 
    Good one lol
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 95,428
    DE4173 said:
    pjl44 said:
    We need something to pass the time before everyone moves on to moaning about tomorrow's poster
    *Fake but:






  • bigbiggzybigbiggzy Posts: 804
    🤣 
  • GlowGirlGlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 11,726
    For those saying that Ten Club isn’t clear about the pre-line. They did this time. Anyone that comes before 9:00am is directed to the campsite across the street from the venue to get in line. The camp site is on the map they provided. I hope that helps everyone find the right place to go. Thanks 10C. 
  • BM195460BM195460 Posts: 36
    edited May 15
    And if you are not at your precious rail, let me tell you - you can have a blast at a show in any spot, even in the second to last row behind the stage. Because it's freaking Pearl Jam.
    I have been in those seats and while not a preferred choice, it sure is fun getting to see all that goes on behind the lines. And watching Matt play all night. Fuck yeah. 
    Post edited by BM195460 on
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  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 10,365
    Do you guys ever make smores? 
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,411
    I had ChatGPT provide a summary for those just joining.

    The Pearl Jam community forum thread titled "Same Folks Up Front" delves into the recurring presence of certain fans at the front of the stage during concerts. Participants express a range of opinions, from curiosity about the consistency of these individuals to concerns about fairness and exclusivity in ticketing.

    Some forum members speculate that these frequent front-row attendees might be affiliated with the band's security or have established relationships with the band, leading to their preferential positioning. This has sparked debates about the transparency and fairness of ticketing processes, with some fans feeling that such arrangements could undermine the egalitarian spirit of live performances.

    Others argue that the presence of these dedicated fans adds to the concert's atmosphere, suggesting that their enthusiasm and commitment enhance the overall experience for all attendees.

    In summary, the thread reflects a microcosm of the broader discussions in fan communities about access, fairness, and the evolving dynamics of live music events.

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  • Spurs14Spurs14 Buffalo Grove, IL Posts: 309
    I had ChatGPT provide a summary for those just joining.
    Can you get it to name the neer-do-well?  That would be interesting. 
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,852
    Spurs14 said:
    I had ChatGPT provide a summary for those just joining.
    Can you get it to name the neer-do-well?  That would be interesting. 

  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,411
    Spurs14 said:
    I had ChatGPT provide a summary for those just joining.
    Can you get it to name the neer-do-well?  That would be interesting. 

    Upon reviewing the Pearl Jam community forum, specifically the "Fan To Fan" thread, there are no explicit accusations or direct evidence of scalping by any individual member. While some users have expressed concerns about ticket transfers and the potential involvement of bots, these are speculative discussions and not concrete allegations.Pearl Jam Community+1Pearl Jam Community+1

    In the "Concert Merchandise" thread, a user named "derbydave" mentioned observing individuals, nicknamed "Leisure Suit Guy" and "Slick," who allegedly jumped the line and were later seen scalping tickets. However, this is a personal observation and not a verified report of scalping.Pearl Jam Community

    If you suspect someone of scalping tickets within the community, it's advisable to report your concerns directly to the forum moderators or administrators. They can investigate the matter in accordance with the forum's rules and take appropriate action if necessary.

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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,247
    DE4173 said:
    pjl44 said:
    We need something to pass the time before everyone moves on to moaning about tomorrow's poster
    *Fake but:




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  • pearlgirl52pearlgirl52 Posts: 661
    Holy 30 pages 😅. What an entertaining bunch of fans we are 🙃. Dare I chime in? I've seen the band 11 times. 3 times I've been in GA, 2 times were festivals, and the rest I had 10 club seats. Only 1 time did I line up early morning and that was for Moline. I ended up 2nd row on Mike's side and had 2 nice fans in front of us let us have the rail for 2 songs. Wrigley night 2 in '16 we rolled in at 7pm and stayed in the way back. Had tons of room to dance around, which is more important to me than about anything. Most recently I had GA Wrigley night 2 last year. Me and my buddy got in line right before doors opened and managed to get the very edge of the rail on Mike's side. Never thought I'd be that close walking in when doors opened, but the pit was pretty big. Usually for me what makes the show is the people you're around. The only thing I hate about being far back in shitty seats is the people who are sitting down... ugh. If people have the time and money and ability to line up for a day, great. I think the biggest challenge is getting GA tickets in the first place. Lots of people definitely seem to be able to get pit tickets for multiple shows, but it is probably all in who you know. I know a lot of people get their friends/significant others accounts just to have more shots at getting tickets. Or people who just trade with each other on the boards. Idk man, to each their own. A meteor could hit me and I'd still have the time of my life seeing PJ. Maybe one day I'll get my shot at singing with Ed or getting a tambourine 😊 Have fun in Pittsburgh  everyone going!
  • helplessdancerhelplessdancer Posts: 5,289
    pj ga tickets have been harder to get than ever before...
    imo, if it's the same people upfront, at all shows, then, there is something going on.

    as tickets have been so hard to get i've been cutting deals with stubhub for reserved pj
    i used to be against professional scalping   but...

    sooo pittsburgh here we come !! 2nd night only. need corduroy & alive night 2. ed....
    $350 is what i paid/ticket ...and i could care less about the rail rats gang !
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