What advantage would a ticket broker have? They can't receive 10c tickets through bypassing F2F right? I can see having API access being huge for day-of sales though.
I've learned that this group of "front liners" are an extension of PJ security. We should be thanking these people for their sacrifice, just like medical personnel in 2020-2022, and military folks in harms way.
Personally, I could see where the band likes having the same folks in the front every night as if I were security, I would like to keep an eye on people that seem to want more of a relationship with the band than the average person (which for 99.9% is no relationship). So they have let the system be as it is so all of those people are together in the front.
But it’s not as if the crowd two to eight people deep are a bunch of rabble-rouser. In reality most GA audiences aren’t outside of the hard core/ metal scene. Twenty One Pilots literally come down and play on top of their PIT audiences and their fans are as passionate as any. All the people I’m encountered in that 2nd grouping a further out have been fantastic. All the people I’ve interacted on the board have been fantastic. They all reflect the majority of the fan base. I don’t particularly care if people want to speed the time for rail as long as it’s not at the expense of others and especially other 10c members.
Fortunately the tour ends Sunday and these folks will have to go back to their miserable lives. Then they can spend their time operating and selling all of the merch they have been hoarding on Facebooks PJBAY and Ebay.
How do they manage to line up for the rail and also merch at the same time?
What advantage would a ticket broker have? They can't receive 10c tickets through bypassing F2F right? I can see having API access being huge for day-of sales though.
The posts/rumor states that said person is also using a bot to snag the tickets. Then the broker license and other technology being used by brokers allows them to generate the needed barcode to resell.
Fortunately the tour ends Sunday and these folks will have to go back to their miserable lives. Then they can spend their time operating and selling all of the merch they have been hoarding on Facebooks PJBAY and Ebay.
How do they manage to line up for the rail and also merch at the same time?
What advantage would a ticket broker have? They can't receive 10c tickets through bypassing F2F right? I can see having API access being huge for day-of sales though.
The posts/rumor states that said person is also using a bot to snag the tickets. Then the broker license and other technology being used by brokers allows them to generate the needed barcode to resell.
Gotcha. So from the data on TM's website it seems using the Discovery API to bypass the normal UI buying process allows for automated checking of inventory approximately every 20 seconds continuously between the on sale time and the show. I wonder if that means bypassing the waiting room as well.
Fortunately the tour ends Sunday and these folks will have to go back to their miserable lives. Then they can spend their time operating and selling all of the merch they have been hoarding on Facebooks PJBAY and Ebay.
How do they manage to line up for the rail and also merch at the same time?
Now this does happen I've seen it many times
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What advantage would a ticket broker have? They can't receive 10c tickets through bypassing F2F right? I can see having API access being huge for day-of sales though.
The posts/rumor states that said person is also using a bot to snag the tickets. Then the broker license and other technology being used by brokers allows them to generate the needed barcode to resell.
Gotcha. So from the data on TM's website it seems using the Discovery API to bypass the normal UI buying process allows for automated checking of inventory approximately every 20 seconds continuously between the on sale time and the show. I wonder if that means bypassing the waiting room as well.
What advantage would a ticket broker have? They can't receive 10c tickets through bypassing F2F right? I can see having API access being huge for day-of sales though.
The first is they don’t get the “Your activity has been paused” that us regular folks get. It always then to become a Ticketmaster partner and access to their APIs meaning they have an advantage to get highly sought after tickets like GA.
My first time was last night. I lined up just before 9am and the experience was great. Everyone was friendly and many went out of their way to help and make sure I'm doing ok, both during the long wait and once we were inside. Met a bunch of extra cool people that I can't wait to see again.
Doing the whole thing again on Friday. Come say hi!
A positive first hand experience from a first timer.
Fortunately the tour ends Sunday and these folks will have to go back to their miserable lives. Then they can spend their time operating and selling all of the merch they have been hoarding on Facebooks PJBAY and Ebay.
How do they manage to line up for the rail and also merch at the same time?
Now this does happen I've seen it many times
They leave their spot in the camp out line, but have it saved by the Jam Clan.
I’m shocked at what has come out about a member of 10C no really I am! I never thought that something like this would surface when I started this thread, Damn
I'm taking this thread and pitching a reality TV show to a network. Stay tuned for Same Folks Up Front the series.
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Fortunately the tour ends Sunday and these folks will have to go back to their miserable lives. Then they can spend their time operating and selling all of the merch they have been hoarding on Facebooks PJBAY and Ebay.
How do they manage to line up for the rail and also merch at the same time?
Now this does happen I've seen it many times
They leave their spot in the camp out line, but have it saved by the Jam Clan.
Or the ticket buddy I guess.
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So nobody will name this person. Why? If the person is at every show and people have spent 24 hrs with them in a line. Why no name?
It’s honestly really obvious if you’ve been watching the fan to fan threads for the past couple tours
There was a name that popped immediately to mind and I've been curious to see if I'm right
Same
I've suspected a certain someone since well before 10pacer dropped that info.
I too wondered and want someone to name the person they have an issue with.whats the problem with someone saying who has done wrong that way it can be put right, no?
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Fortunately the tour ends Sunday and these folks will have to go back to their miserable lives. Then they can spend their time operating and selling all of the merch they have been hoarding on Facebooks PJBAY and Ebay.
How do they manage to line up for the rail and also merch at the same time?
Now this does happen I've seen it many times
The line buddy system makes it possible. A group of 40 spli between the 2.
I’m shocked at what has come out about a member of 10C no really I am! I never thought that something like this would surface when I started this thread, Damn
I'm taking this thread and pitching a reality TV show to a network. Stay tuned for Same Folks Up Front the series.
Can't wait to see that one episode that talks about the same folks up front also are the same folks in front of the early Pearl Jam merch line. How do they do it? You'll find out.
Followed by that 2nd episode where the same folks up front enjoy the afternoon at the prepares blocks away from the venue. How do they do it & not get caught? A must episode to see.
This thread is just a glaring example of how consumerism has literally consumed a few dozen fans (maybe more) to the detriment of hundreds per show. Between the merch BS and the rail roadies, it just sounds like a lot of human greed. I guess you don't have to deal with even bros and lackluster fans like the rest of the plebes in the seats.
Never been interested in camping out for rail and seats are fine with me. The one concert I did have rail for (U2 in 2005) was because my wife's cousin was a super fan who did camp out and then we showed up a few hours before. Wouldn't do that again.
So nobody will name this person. Why? If the person is at every show and people have spent 24 hrs with them in a line. Why no name?
It’s honestly really obvious if you’ve been watching the fan to fan threads for the past couple tours
There was a name that popped immediately to mind and I've been curious to see if I'm right
Same
I've suspected a certain someone since well before 10pacer dropped that info.
I too wondered and want someone to name the person they have an issue with.whats the problem with someone saying who has done wrong that way it can be put right, no?
I'm curious if there's legal reasons why. As far as I know, 10c doesn't have control of what you buy outside 10c and how you sell them. If you buy them directly from TM or some other source, and don't post them for sale on 10c, then what options does 10c have? My guess is none. It's perfectly legal to buy and resell tickets. And my guess is if this guy has a broker license, and is considered part of his business, and 10c allows his business to be hurt by negative comments on their forum, maybe it can create legal issues.
Fortunately the tour ends Sunday and these folks will have to go back to their miserable lives. Then they can spend their time operating and selling all of the merch they have been hoarding on Facebooks PJBAY and Ebay.
How do they manage to line up for the rail and also merch at the same time?
Trust me they do both. They are master scammers. Spots in both lines. Hence the mafia.
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I've learned that this group of "front liners" are an extension of PJ security. We should be thanking these people for their sacrifice, just like medical personnel in 2020-2022, and military folks in harms way.
Personally, I could see where the band likes having the same folks in the front every night as if I were security, I would like to keep an eye on people that seem to want more of a relationship with the band than the average person (which for 99.9% is no relationship). So they have let the system be as it is so all of those people are together in the front.
Give me a fucking break, the is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
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So nobody will name this person. Why? If the person is at every show and people have spent 24 hrs with them in a line. Why no name?
It’s honestly really obvious if you’ve been watching the fan to fan threads for the past couple tours
There was a name that popped immediately to mind and I've been curious to see if I'm right
Same
I've suspected a certain someone since well before 10pacer dropped that info.
I too wondered and want someone to name the person they have an issue with.whats the problem with someone saying who has done wrong that way it can be put right, no?
I'm curious if there's legal reasons why. As far as I know, 10c doesn't have control of what you buy outside 10c and how you sell them. If you buy them directly from TM or some other source, and don't post them for sale on 10c, then what options does 10c have? My guess is none. It's perfectly legal to buy and resell tickets. And my guess is if this guy has a broker license, and is considered part of his business, and 10c allows his business to be hurt by negative comments on their forum, maybe it can create legal issues.
They could cancel his membership. I think that's really all the penalty has ever been. Maaaaaybe they could cancel any active tickets associated with the membership but I can't imagine much more than that.
I don't see any issue with naming him. He's not doing anything illegal. It's just his friendships at risk to the extent that it even matters.
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Gotcha. So from the data on TM's website it seems using the Discovery API to bypass the normal UI buying process allows for automated checking of inventory approximately every 20 seconds continuously between the on sale time and the show. I wonder if that means bypassing the waiting room as well.
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hartford 06
reading 06
barcelona 06
paris 06
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Weird.
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Followed by that 2nd episode where the same folks up front enjoy the afternoon at the prepares blocks away from the venue. How do they do it & not get caught? A must episode to see.
Never been interested in camping out for rail and seats are fine with me. The one concert I did have rail for (U2 in 2005) was because my wife's cousin was a super fan who did camp out and then we showed up a few hours before. Wouldn't do that again.
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I don't see any issue with naming him. He's not doing anything illegal. It's just his friendships at risk to the extent that it even matters.
Just playing devil's advocate if we're going to reference the rules... I want to know as much as anyone and think I have an idea who it might be.