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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,131
    mace1229 said:
    tbergs said:
    mace1229 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Ball game. The Democrats have to understand how much people do not want to vote for women. Oh well, it’s not important. This is it for the Democratic Party at least at the presidential level.
    Why would it be over for the dem party?
    Look at the history of presidents, it’s always switching back and forth between parties. Trump can’t run again. 1 or 2 election cycles and it’ll flip around.
    We have no idea what Trump will do. People underestimate him because he says so much stupid shit, but to even opine about the kind of things he wants to do is dangerous. You're giving someone the benefit of the doubt who has repeatedly shown he doesn't deserve it.
    One of the things I’m certain of is in 4 years, he will be out of office (assuming he even wins) and there will be another election where the people decide who is president .
    One thing I’m nearly certain of is that the votes won’t matter in the 2028 presidential election. I believe Vance will do what Pence wouldn’t. 

    The other things I believe is that we have the most party-loyal court la in US history and that while it was bad enough when Trump wanted to be a dictator he’s going to be surrounded by people that want that for him and the party. This isn’t Bush’s disappointing win in 2004. Elon, Vance, and the Dream Team have no intention of relinquishing power.
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,838
    Politics is high level bullshit everywhere. 
    No truth in any of it. 
    Such a sad state the world has become. The internet has a few plus points but 1 million negatives. 

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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,450
    pjhawks said:
    How the fuck is he out performing what he did in 2020?  Economy, sexism, racism?  Combo of all 3?  Hard to believe this horrible piece of shit is gonna win again. I will never understand the appeal of such a terrible human 
    Impossible to prove it but I firmly believe that if Biden had announced he wasn't running much earlier and the Dems had a proper primary, that candidate would have won
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,450
    Harris was a bad candidate but they were kinda stuck. Running a bad campaign to boot only exacerbated the problem.
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,528
    pjl44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    How the fuck is he out performing what he did in 2020?  Economy, sexism, racism?  Combo of all 3?  Hard to believe this horrible piece of shit is gonna win again. I will never understand the appeal of such a terrible human 
    Impossible to prove it but I firmly believe that if Biden had announced he wasn't running much earlier and the Dems had a proper primary, that candidate would have won
    After Jan 6 if you told me he could win 4 years later I would have not believed it.  Agree the Dems fucked this up. Biden always should have been a one term guy. 
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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,450
    pjhawks said:
    pjl44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    How the fuck is he out performing what he did in 2020?  Economy, sexism, racism?  Combo of all 3?  Hard to believe this horrible piece of shit is gonna win again. I will never understand the appeal of such a terrible human 
    Impossible to prove it but I firmly believe that if Biden had announced he wasn't running much earlier and the Dems had a proper primary, that candidate would have won
    After Jan 6 if you told me he could win 4 years later I would have not believed it.  Agree the Dems fucked this up. Biden always should have been a one term guy. 
    Totally agree especially on the first part. On January 7th I would have laughed out loud at the idea.
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,807
    pjl44 said:
    Harris was a bad candidate but they were kinda stuck. Running a bad campaign to boot only exacerbated the problem.
    Yeah, blame the female minority candidate who has no corruption in her past and was more experienced. The issue isn't with her or her campaign, it's with the archaic patriarchy mindset of a vast majority of people in this country. Remove the ages, names, gender and race of each candidate and stack their merits side by side and tell me she's a bad candidate. That's fucking ridiculous and you are part of the problem, whether you like it or not. She can't win for the same reason Pete will never be able to win. We've proven only straight white men can control enough of the electorate. I applaud democrats for pushing aside gender as an obstacle to the presidency, but unfortunately this country still isn't ready for a woman to lead.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,223
    The non white vote variation from 2020 makes no sense. Look at the swing Cruz had in TX. Like a 25 point swing... Makes no sense.

    But it is what it is. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,010
    tbergs said:
    pjl44 said:
    Harris was a bad candidate but they were kinda stuck. Running a bad campaign to boot only exacerbated the problem.
    Yeah, blame the female minority candidate who has no corruption in her past and was more experienced. The issue isn't with her or her campaign, it's with the archaic patriarchy mindset of a vast majority of people in this country. Remove the ages, names, gender and race of each candidate and stack their merits side by side and tell me she's a bad candidate. That's fucking ridiculous and you are part of the problem, whether you like it or not. She can't win for the same reason Pete will never be able to win. We've proven only straight white men can control enough of the electorate. I applaud democrats for pushing aside gender as an obstacle to the presidency, but unfortunately this country still isn't ready for a woman to lead.
    The US is a racist and misogynistic nation and has just become a shit hole country. Congratulations, ‘Murica, you deserve everything coming your way.
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  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory Posts: 6,446
    edited November 6
    The dems had 1 person and 1 person only who could have ended maga. Unfortunately, Mrs. Obama has no interest in running for office. 
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    tbergs said:
    pjl44 said:
    Harris was a bad candidate but they were kinda stuck. Running a bad campaign to boot only exacerbated the problem.
    Yeah, blame the female minority candidate who has no corruption in her past and was more experienced. The issue isn't with her or her campaign, it's with the archaic patriarchy mindset of a vast majority of people in this country. Remove the ages, names, gender and race of each candidate and stack their merits side by side and tell me she's a bad candidate. That's fucking ridiculous and you are part of the problem, whether you like it or not. She can't win for the same reason Pete will never be able to win. We've proven only straight white men can control enough of the electorate. I applaud democrats for pushing aside gender as an obstacle to the presidency, but unfortunately this country still isn't ready for a woman to lead.
    Clinton all but won in 2016. Harris is just a loser who wasn’t popular within her own party in the 2020 primary, had a low approval rating as VP, and didn’t even earn this nomination. That’s a bad candidate whether she’s a ”female minority candidate” or not. 
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,978
    Sad how this is going
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,838
    It goes to show the state of the country and the world. We here are now a minority in the world 
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  • cutzcutz Posts: 11,829
    tbergs said:
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    got ourselves a line this time. 25 or so outside. prob close to same inside to check in give or take. couldnt say yet after check in.
    I forgot that there is a polling place right next to my house. Not mine for some reason...mine is a mile away.

    There was no one in line outside and no foot traffic other than one guy I saw walking in. Weird. Of course I'm in Red Meat, IN.
    approx 60 or so after check in. 12 machines here.

    no issues with voters. one woman had a medical issue. was taken out on stretcher. dont think she voted yet. appeared like a poll worker was addressing the non-vote after check in.

    I went to where I vote and I was told it's 3-4 hours to vote. 

    Lady in front of me said she's NEVER seen it like this and she's been voting in this Town for many years. Usually takes no more then 10 minutes. I recently moved to this Town and this is my first time trying to vote.

    Poll workers told me that it's 3 hours to vote , at least. And they also told me they're suppose to get more machines in as they only have 3. Where I live is the 2nd  most populated in the County so not sure why they only have 3 machines there.
    what state?
    Is it WiMiPaGaAzNe?
    NJ

    I just got home from Voting.

    Over 4 1/2 Hours to Vote.

    I was Mister Irrelevant(Last one to Vote.)
  • GlowGirlGlowGirl Posts: 10,903
    lastexitlondon said:
    It goes to show the state of the country and the world. We here are now a minority in the world 
    The world has come undone for sure. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,946
    STOP THE STEAL. REPUBLICANS CHEATED. oh, wait, sorry, we're not the party of lunatics. carry on. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,946
    92% of Penn votes counted, she's down over 200,000. Yep, it's done. 
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,838
    GlowGirl said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    It goes to show the state of the country and the world. We here are now a minority in the world 
    The world has come undone for sure. 
    It has 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,946
    good god I can't stand Van Jones' whining and catastrophizing. Such a baby. STFU
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,946
    fox called it already. 
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  • bootlegbootleg Posts: 682
    I’m a registered independent, I’ve had issues with both parties on certain things but i will never in my life understand how anyone could vote for the most unqualified man to ever run for office.  The indecency, the cruelty, the just complete moral bankruptcy…. Do you just not see it?  Ir do you just not care?  It’s like we’re speaking different completely different languages.
  • GlowGirlGlowGirl Posts: 10,903
    bootleg said:
    I’m a registered independent, I’ve had issues with both parties on certain things but i will never in my life understand how anyone could vote for the most unqualified man to ever run for office.  The indecency, the cruelty, the just complete moral bankruptcy…. Do you just not see it?  Ir do you just not care?  It’s like we’re speaking different completely different languages.
    I don’t get it either. It completely blows my mind. The man is a convicted felon and now will most likely be our president. How does that even happen? 
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,935
    Some like Trump, but most vote for him in spite of him.  They don’t like liberal policies, and they will look past Trump’s antics and moral shortcomings because they are voting for policies.  At least that is what I have been told by several folks. 

    Right or wrong, I think that is how a lot of voters got okay voting for Trump.  They focused on policies they care about. 

    Dems can keep writing off half the nation as racist and anti-woman, but they will continue to lose with that mentality. 
  • seanwonseanwon Posts: 468
    tbergs said:
    Yeah, blame the female minority candidate who has no corruption in her past and was more experienced. The issue isn't with her or her campaign, it's with the archaic patriarchy mindset of a vast majority of people in this country. 
    Halifax2TheMax said:



    The US is a racist and misogynistic nation and has just become a shit hole country. Congratulations, ‘Murica, you deserve everything coming your way.
    Dems pushing this bullshit narrative is exactly why they turned off enough voters to cost us the election.  Independents and normal Libs like me have had enough.  YOU guys cost us this election.  People are wise to the victim playbook now. Pleasant dreams everyone!
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  • seanwonseanwon Posts: 468
    edited November 6
    bootlegger10 said:
    Some like Trump, but most vote for him in spite of him.  They don’t like liberal policies, and they will look past Trump’s antics and moral shortcomings because they are voting for policies.  At least that is what I have been told by several folks. 

    Right or wrong, I think that is how a lot of voters got okay voting for Trump.  They focused on policies they care about. 

    Dems can keep writing off half the nation as racist and anti-woman, but they will continue to lose with that mentality. 
    I guess I'm not the only one to see it...
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,247
    GlowGirl said:
    bootleg said:
    I’m a registered independent, I’ve had issues with both parties on certain things but i will never in my life understand how anyone could vote for the most unqualified man to ever run for office.  The indecency, the cruelty, the just complete moral bankruptcy…. Do you just not see it?  Ir do you just not care?  It’s like we’re speaking different completely different languages.
    I don’t get it either. It completely blows my mind. The man is a convicted felon and now will most likely be our president. How does that even happen? 
    It's not so hard to understand how M, i believe you know it..
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,946
    HAHA CNN panel discussing if Trump can be a uniter and if he can change. WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK. 
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  • jimjam1982jimjam1982 Posts: 1,428
    Your welcome dudes. The good guys won. America is saved. Democracy prevailed. History will look back on this as a turning point. Congrats DJT the 47th President of the Unites States of America. God Bless. Land of the free.

    Democratic propaganda about fascism and racism will not be tolerated or believed any longer. The people have spoken. 

    Yall moving to Canada still? 
  • jimjam1982jimjam1982 Posts: 1,428
    bootlegger10 said:
    Some like Trump, but most vote for him in spite of him.  They don’t like liberal policies, and they will look past Trump’s antics and moral shortcomings because they are voting for policies.  At least that is what I have been told by several folks. 

    Right or wrong, I think that is how a lot of voters got okay voting for Trump.  They focused on policies they care about. 

    Dems can keep writing off half the nation as racist and anti-woman, but they will continue to lose with that mentality. 
    Everyone should vote on policies. If you don't you shouldn't be allowed to vote
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