2024 US Election - Predictions

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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    mace1229 said:
    tbergs said:
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    OnWis97 said:
    Ball game. The Democrats have to understand how much people do not want to vote for women. Oh well, it’s not important. This is it for the Democratic Party at least at the presidential level.
    Why would it be over for the dem party?
    Look at the history of presidents, it’s always switching back and forth between parties. Trump can’t run again. 1 or 2 election cycles and it’ll flip around.
    We have no idea what Trump will do. People underestimate him because he says so much stupid shit, but to even opine about the kind of things he wants to do is dangerous. You're giving someone the benefit of the doubt who has repeatedly shown he doesn't deserve it.
    One of the things I’m certain of is in 4 years, he will be out of office (assuming he even wins) and there will be another election where the people decide who is president .
    One thing I’m nearly certain of is that the votes won’t matter in the 2028 presidential election. I believe Vance will do what Pence wouldn’t. 

    The other things I believe is that we have the most party-loyal court la in US history and that while it was bad enough when Trump wanted to be a dictator he’s going to be surrounded by people that want that for him and the party. This isn’t Bush’s disappointing win in 2004. Elon, Vance, and the Dream Team have no intention of relinquishing power.
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,915
    Politics is high level bullshit everywhere. 
    No truth in any of it. 
    Such a sad state the world has become. The internet has a few plus points but 1 million negatives. 



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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,546
    pjhawks said:
    How the fuck is he out performing what he did in 2020?  Economy, sexism, racism?  Combo of all 3?  Hard to believe this horrible piece of shit is gonna win again. I will never understand the appeal of such a terrible human 
    Impossible to prove it but I firmly believe that if Biden had announced he wasn't running much earlier and the Dems had a proper primary, that candidate would have won
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,546
    Harris was a bad candidate but they were kinda stuck. Running a bad campaign to boot only exacerbated the problem.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,932
    pjl44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    How the fuck is he out performing what he did in 2020?  Economy, sexism, racism?  Combo of all 3?  Hard to believe this horrible piece of shit is gonna win again. I will never understand the appeal of such a terrible human 
    Impossible to prove it but I firmly believe that if Biden had announced he wasn't running much earlier and the Dems had a proper primary, that candidate would have won
    After Jan 6 if you told me he could win 4 years later I would have not believed it.  Agree the Dems fucked this up. Biden always should have been a one term guy. 
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,546
    pjhawks said:
    pjl44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    How the fuck is he out performing what he did in 2020?  Economy, sexism, racism?  Combo of all 3?  Hard to believe this horrible piece of shit is gonna win again. I will never understand the appeal of such a terrible human 
    Impossible to prove it but I firmly believe that if Biden had announced he wasn't running much earlier and the Dems had a proper primary, that candidate would have won
    After Jan 6 if you told me he could win 4 years later I would have not believed it.  Agree the Dems fucked this up. Biden always should have been a one term guy. 
    Totally agree especially on the first part. On January 7th I would have laughed out loud at the idea.
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,425
    pjl44 said:
    Harris was a bad candidate but they were kinda stuck. Running a bad campaign to boot only exacerbated the problem.
    Yeah, blame the female minority candidate who has no corruption in her past and was more experienced. The issue isn't with her or her campaign, it's with the archaic patriarchy mindset of a vast majority of people in this country. Remove the ages, names, gender and race of each candidate and stack their merits side by side and tell me she's a bad candidate. That's fucking ridiculous and you are part of the problem, whether you like it or not. She can't win for the same reason Pete will never be able to win. We've proven only straight white men can control enough of the electorate. I applaud democrats for pushing aside gender as an obstacle to the presidency, but unfortunately this country still isn't ready for a woman to lead.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,260
    The non white vote variation from 2020 makes no sense. Look at the swing Cruz had in TX. Like a 25 point swing... Makes no sense.

    But it is what it is. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,381
    tbergs said:
    pjl44 said:
    Harris was a bad candidate but they were kinda stuck. Running a bad campaign to boot only exacerbated the problem.
    Yeah, blame the female minority candidate who has no corruption in her past and was more experienced. The issue isn't with her or her campaign, it's with the archaic patriarchy mindset of a vast majority of people in this country. Remove the ages, names, gender and race of each candidate and stack their merits side by side and tell me she's a bad candidate. That's fucking ridiculous and you are part of the problem, whether you like it or not. She can't win for the same reason Pete will never be able to win. We've proven only straight white men can control enough of the electorate. I applaud democrats for pushing aside gender as an obstacle to the presidency, but unfortunately this country still isn't ready for a woman to lead.
    The US is a racist and misogynistic nation and has just become a shit hole country. Congratulations, ‘Murica, you deserve everything coming your way.
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  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,378
    edited November 2024
    The dems had 1 person and 1 person only who could have ended maga. Unfortunately, Mrs. Obama has no interest in running for office. 
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    tbergs said:
    pjl44 said:
    Harris was a bad candidate but they were kinda stuck. Running a bad campaign to boot only exacerbated the problem.
    Yeah, blame the female minority candidate who has no corruption in her past and was more experienced. The issue isn't with her or her campaign, it's with the archaic patriarchy mindset of a vast majority of people in this country. Remove the ages, names, gender and race of each candidate and stack their merits side by side and tell me she's a bad candidate. That's fucking ridiculous and you are part of the problem, whether you like it or not. She can't win for the same reason Pete will never be able to win. We've proven only straight white men can control enough of the electorate. I applaud democrats for pushing aside gender as an obstacle to the presidency, but unfortunately this country still isn't ready for a woman to lead.
    Clinton all but won in 2016. Harris is just a loser who wasn’t popular within her own party in the 2020 primary, had a low approval rating as VP, and didn’t even earn this nomination. That’s a bad candidate whether she’s a ”female minority candidate” or not. 
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,650
    Sad how this is going
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,915
    It goes to show the state of the country and the world. We here are now a minority in the world 


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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,259
    tbergs said:
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    mickeyrat said:
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    got ourselves a line this time. 25 or so outside. prob close to same inside to check in give or take. couldnt say yet after check in.
    I forgot that there is a polling place right next to my house. Not mine for some reason...mine is a mile away.

    There was no one in line outside and no foot traffic other than one guy I saw walking in. Weird. Of course I'm in Red Meat, IN.
    approx 60 or so after check in. 12 machines here.

    no issues with voters. one woman had a medical issue. was taken out on stretcher. dont think she voted yet. appeared like a poll worker was addressing the non-vote after check in.

    I went to where I vote and I was told it's 3-4 hours to vote. 

    Lady in front of me said she's NEVER seen it like this and she's been voting in this Town for many years. Usually takes no more then 10 minutes. I recently moved to this Town and this is my first time trying to vote.

    Poll workers told me that it's 3 hours to vote , at least. And they also told me they're suppose to get more machines in as they only have 3. Where I live is the 2nd  most populated in the County so not sure why they only have 3 machines there.
    what state?
    Is it WiMiPaGaAzNe?
    NJ

    I just got home from Voting.

    Over 4 1/2 Hours to Vote.

    I was Mister Irrelevant(Last one to Vote.)
  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,124
    lastexitlondon said:
    It goes to show the state of the country and the world. We here are now a minority in the world 
    The world has come undone for sure. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,533
    STOP THE STEAL. REPUBLICANS CHEATED. oh, wait, sorry, we're not the party of lunatics. carry on. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,533
    92% of Penn votes counted, she's down over 200,000. Yep, it's done. 
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,915
    GlowGirl said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    It goes to show the state of the country and the world. We here are now a minority in the world 
    The world has come undone for sure. 
    It has 


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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,533
    good god I can't stand Van Jones' whining and catastrophizing. Such a baby. STFU
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