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Merkin Baller said:People are missing the boat on how big a role misinformation and disinformation played in this election.
People didn't vote against their own self interests for no reason.
The other part of this is that when we talk about "self-interest," we often focus too narrowly on personal economic interests. This ignores the fact that other things are also important to people, including cultural or social issues. This was the obvious rebuttal to the Thomas Frank "What's the Matter with Kansas?" inquiry, and it's something that Barack Obama was actually trying to address thoughtfully and empathetically in his famous "bitter clinger" remarks, which he got pilloried for. But his point was that, if you're someone who feels that neither party has looked out for your economic interests, you'll end up deciding your vote based on other things that are also important to you and that feel threatened to you, like gun rights or religious freedom (whether these things are actually threatened or not, there are loud voices encouraging people to believe they are threatened).Post edited by BF25394 onI gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
BF25394 said:Merkin Baller said:People are missing the boat on how big a role misinformation and disinformation played in this election.
People didn't vote against their own self interests for no reason.
The other part of this is that when we talk about "self-interest," we often focus too narrowly on personal economic interests. This ignores the fact that other things are also important to people, including cultural or social issues. This was the obvious rebuttal to the Thomas Frank "What's the Matter with Kansas?" inquiry, and it's something that Barack Obama was actually trying to address thoughtfully and empathetically in his famous "bitter clinger" remarks, which he got pilloried for. But his point was that, if you're someone who feels that neither party has looked out for your economic interests, you'll end up deciding your vote based on other things that are also important to you and that feel threatened to you, like gun rights or religious freedom (whether these things are actually threatened or not, there are loud voices encouraging people to believe they are threatened).
I suspect there'll be much more written about this in the coming months and maybe years.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/how-disinformation-defined-the-2024-election-narrative/
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BF25394 said:Merkin Baller said:People are missing the boat on how big a role misinformation and disinformation played in this election.
People didn't vote against their own self interests for no reason.
The other part of this is that when we talk about "self-interest," we often focus too narrowly on personal economic interests. This ignores the fact that other things are also important to people, including cultural or social issues. This was the obvious rebuttal to the Thomas Frank "What's the Matter with Kansas?" inquiry, and it's something that Barack Obama was actually trying to address thoughtfully and empathetically in his famous "bitter clinger" remarks, which he got pilloried for. But his point was that, if you're someone who feels that neither party has looked out for your economic interests, you'll end up deciding your vote based on other things that are also important to you and that feel threatened to you, like gun rights or religious freedom (whether these things are actually threatened or not, there are loud voices encouraging people to believe they are threatened).0 -
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Merkin Baller said:BF25394 said:Merkin Baller said:People are missing the boat on how big a role misinformation and disinformation played in this election.
People didn't vote against their own self interests for no reason.
The other part of this is that when we talk about "self-interest," we often focus too narrowly on personal economic interests. This ignores the fact that other things are also important to people, including cultural or social issues. This was the obvious rebuttal to the Thomas Frank "What's the Matter with Kansas?" inquiry, and it's something that Barack Obama was actually trying to address thoughtfully and empathetically in his famous "bitter clinger" remarks, which he got pilloried for. But his point was that, if you're someone who feels that neither party has looked out for your economic interests, you'll end up deciding your vote based on other things that are also important to you and that feel threatened to you, like gun rights or religious freedom (whether these things are actually threatened or not, there are loud voices encouraging people to believe they are threatened).
I suspect there'll be much more written about this in the coming months and maybe years.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/how-disinformation-defined-the-2024-election-narrative/I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
I vote for the future of the planets and animal life's interest.
But I guess many wanna vote for racist and fascist interests ofc instead. "Oh we need more oil, because I am a piece of shit and dumb as rocks""Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
mrussel1 said:BF25394 said:Merkin Baller said:People are missing the boat on how big a role misinformation and disinformation played in this election.
People didn't vote against their own self interests for no reason.
The other part of this is that when we talk about "self-interest," we often focus too narrowly on personal economic interests. This ignores the fact that other things are also important to people, including cultural or social issues. This was the obvious rebuttal to the Thomas Frank "What's the Matter with Kansas?" inquiry, and it's something that Barack Obama was actually trying to address thoughtfully and empathetically in his famous "bitter clinger" remarks, which he got pilloried for. But his point was that, if you're someone who feels that neither party has looked out for your economic interests, you'll end up deciding your vote based on other things that are also important to you and that feel threatened to you, like gun rights or religious freedom (whether these things are actually threatened or not, there are loud voices encouraging people to believe they are threatened).hippiemom = goodness0 -
cincybearcat said:mrussel1 said:BF25394 said:Merkin Baller said:People are missing the boat on how big a role misinformation and disinformation played in this election.
People didn't vote against their own self interests for no reason.
The other part of this is that when we talk about "self-interest," we often focus too narrowly on personal economic interests. This ignores the fact that other things are also important to people, including cultural or social issues. This was the obvious rebuttal to the Thomas Frank "What's the Matter with Kansas?" inquiry, and it's something that Barack Obama was actually trying to address thoughtfully and empathetically in his famous "bitter clinger" remarks, which he got pilloried for. But his point was that, if you're someone who feels that neither party has looked out for your economic interests, you'll end up deciding your vote based on other things that are also important to you and that feel threatened to you, like gun rights or religious freedom (whether these things are actually threatened or not, there are loud voices encouraging people to believe they are threatened).
I mean we buy things that are imported like servers, phones, etc. But we don't buy and sell those goods. Higher prices for these will eat into our margins, but not in a material way. However anything that costs a business more is one less dollar they spend on us, in theory.0
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