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This seems directionally correct to me but will certainly send leftists screeching
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shadowcast said:
Also, I get the Cheney resentment, fuck those people, but that doesn't mean I would shoot myself in the foot and choose a dictator and upheaval of social systems created for the betterment of all people in this country. And while on that subject, you mention the Cheneys supporting Harris, what about neo nazi, white supremacists supporting Trump? Isn't that a fucking red flag to you? Good god, look at the big picture. Domestic terrorism will once again be on the rise and threaten this country and the nationalist view will leave the US out in the cold.
As for the ceasefire, maybe you weren't aware of this already so here you go.
https://www.npr.org/2024/10/28/nx-s1-5168008/israel-hamas-war-gaza-ceasefire-us-election
Also, no ceasefire is expected until January now because no one knows what to expect with our new dictator.
Yes I have problems with Israel and how they are handling the situation.
Trump is not a dictator and anyone that says that has been brain washed.
And yes, he continued arming Israel and will in the new admin as well. Nice cherry picking of your points.0 -
pjl44 said:This seems directionally correct to me but will certainly send leftists screeching
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pjl44 said:This seems directionally correct to me but will certainly send leftists screeching
I am neither leftist or screeching. I just have this strange habit of critical thinking. None of these make sense as a platform for a political party. But if you can think of a law that ensures that "academics and non profit staffers do not occupy a unique position of virtue" without violating the Constitution, I'd love to hear it.0 -
GlowGirl said:pjl44 said:This seems directionally correct to me but will certainly send leftists screeching0
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mcgruff10 said:Guys the economy sucks, everything costs more than four years ago. I can't leave the grocery store without spending $300; it was no where near that four years ago. The buck stops somewhere and unfortunately Harris was attached to it.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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mrussel1 said:shadowcast said:
Also, I get the Cheney resentment, fuck those people, but that doesn't mean I would shoot myself in the foot and choose a dictator and upheaval of social systems created for the betterment of all people in this country. And while on that subject, you mention the Cheneys supporting Harris, what about neo nazi, white supremacists supporting Trump? Isn't that a fucking red flag to you? Good god, look at the big picture. Domestic terrorism will once again be on the rise and threaten this country and the nationalist view will leave the US out in the cold.
As for the ceasefire, maybe you weren't aware of this already so here you go.
https://www.npr.org/2024/10/28/nx-s1-5168008/israel-hamas-war-gaza-ceasefire-us-election
Also, no ceasefire is expected until January now because no one knows what to expect with our new dictator.
Yes I have problems with Israel and how they are handling the situation.
Trump is not a dictator and anyone that says that has been brain washed.
And yes, he continued arming Israel and will in the new admin as well. Nice cherry picking of your points.0 -
Gern Blansten said:mace1229 said:Gern Blansten said:mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:mace1229 said:Gern Blansten said:mace1229 said:Gern Blansten said:mace1229 said:Gern Blansten said:Spiritual_Chaos said:Gern Blansten said:I think some of my posts over the last few months will show this. I have been saying that if trump wins it is because the electorate is just too fucking ignorant.
How do we recover from that? How does an opposition party combat complete ignorance of an electorate influenced by memes rather than actual facts? These people do not listen to in depth discussions of important topics, they vote strictly on outrage.
Thinks like this accelerate when society is going through a crisis and people therefore feel unsecure. See: Germany in the 30s
At the same time. Making people be less ego, shortsighted and racist takes effort. And I heard that youtuber Hasan once talk about how young men online is only met by a huge right wing space (whether that is Joe Rogan or Tim Pool or whoever) and the left has lost the fight of being an option. Ego and othering rules the day.
And effects of climate change etc, won't make the above easier over time ofc.
The perception is bad because car prices are up 25%. Grocery prices are way up. You're going to pay 2-3 times the mortgage if you buy a home today compared to 5 years ago. Insurance costs have skyrocketed.
There are a lot of people who are financially worse of today than they were 5 years ago.
You can argue who is and is not responsible, but I think downplaying the effects hurt.
These are the topics that I was seeing constantly in my tiktok feed...just bullshit clips blaming Harris/Biden, etc., for things that normally happen in our economy. Once again...ignorance. When the majority of the electorate is ignorant and the news they receive is false we get trump as the result.
It's very concerning to me.
If we didn't already own a home prior to 2019, I don't think I could ever afford one in my lifetime. I don't know how younger couples are going to any time soon. In many parts of the country the average home, with insurance, taxes, higher interest rates, etc, is going to be more than the entire paycheck of a new teacher. So a young couple where both are teachers, or both have similar salaries, it will take the entire paycheck of one and a portion of the other to just pay their mortgage.
New car prices rises 25% in 5 years isn't normal. Which has also created a domino effect of cars lasting longer on the road, meaning more repairs and higher maintenance costs and increasing the cost of used cars.
Grocery prices rising nearly 30% in 5 years is not normal.
None of these things are things that "normally happen in our economy." And calming it is is just downplaying it.
Now, like I said, You can argue the causes. And I would agree covid is a huge factor. But just telling people it's not as bad as you think it is over and over again probably cost them the election.
I don't know how you can argue against high grocery prices.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/price-tracker/
According to CBS, average milk price went from $3.10 to $4.02.
Groceries are up close to 30%
Same with cars and many other things.
Once again, I'm reminded of a conversation with my sister in law. She was bitching about eggs being $4 or something but she was at SPEEDWAY. The day after that conversation my wife and I were at Meijer and I bought an 18 pack of eggs for like $2 or something.
Yes there was inflation. GLOBALLY
and "bullshit clips blaming Harris/Biden, etc., for things that normally happen in our economy. Once again...ignorance. When the majority of the electorate is ignorant and the news they receive is false"
I interpreted those statements as saying inflation isn't as bad as people claim it is and we've experienced normal inflation. Both of which I disagree with.
I do agree it is a global issue, and many of the factors are not the result of Biden/Harris. But your comments came across as that inflation was just a gas lighting attempt from the right and everything is fine.
No I experienced inflation first hand. I do most of the grocery shopping in my house. My comment related to people comparing apples to oranges.
0% interest on a car isn't that great when you're paying 30% more for the car itself.0 -
mrussel1 said:GlowGirl said:pjl44 said:This seems directionally correct to me but will certainly send leftists screeching
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tbergs said:shadowcast said:Spiritual_Chaos said:shadowcast said:Who would have thought that the people rejected the war mongering NEOCONS that the Democratic party has become.
please comment @shadowcast
Next.
Just IMAGINE if Obama had done that. The right's collective heads would have exploded.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:mace1229 said:Gern Blansten said:mace1229 said:Gern Blansten said:mace1229 said:Gern Blansten said:Spiritual_Chaos said:Gern Blansten said:I think some of my posts over the last few months will show this. I have been saying that if trump wins it is because the electorate is just too fucking ignorant.
How do we recover from that? How does an opposition party combat complete ignorance of an electorate influenced by memes rather than actual facts? These people do not listen to in depth discussions of important topics, they vote strictly on outrage.
Thinks like this accelerate when society is going through a crisis and people therefore feel unsecure. See: Germany in the 30s
At the same time. Making people be less ego, shortsighted and racist takes effort. And I heard that youtuber Hasan once talk about how young men online is only met by a huge right wing space (whether that is Joe Rogan or Tim Pool or whoever) and the left has lost the fight of being an option. Ego and othering rules the day.
And effects of climate change etc, won't make the above easier over time ofc.
The perception is bad because car prices are up 25%. Grocery prices are way up. You're going to pay 2-3 times the mortgage if you buy a home today compared to 5 years ago. Insurance costs have skyrocketed.
There are a lot of people who are financially worse of today than they were 5 years ago.
You can argue who is and is not responsible, but I think downplaying the effects hurt.
These are the topics that I was seeing constantly in my tiktok feed...just bullshit clips blaming Harris/Biden, etc., for things that normally happen in our economy. Once again...ignorance. When the majority of the electorate is ignorant and the news they receive is false we get trump as the result.
It's very concerning to me.
If we didn't already own a home prior to 2019, I don't think I could ever afford one in my lifetime. I don't know how younger couples are going to any time soon. In many parts of the country the average home, with insurance, taxes, higher interest rates, etc, is going to be more than the entire paycheck of a new teacher. So a young couple where both are teachers, or both have similar salaries, it will take the entire paycheck of one and a portion of the other to just pay their mortgage.
New car prices rises 25% in 5 years isn't normal. Which has also created a domino effect of cars lasting longer on the road, meaning more repairs and higher maintenance costs and increasing the cost of used cars.
Grocery prices rising nearly 30% in 5 years is not normal.
None of these things are things that "normally happen in our economy." And calming it is is just downplaying it.
Now, like I said, You can argue the causes. And I would agree covid is a huge factor. But just telling people it's not as bad as you think it is over and over again probably cost them the election.
I don't know how you can argue against high grocery prices.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/price-tracker/
According to CBS, average milk price went from $3.10 to $4.02.
Groceries are up close to 30%
Same with cars and many other things.
To suggest Harris didn't address it is more ignorance... she had a plan to tackle price gouging, but that was labeled communism, was it not? (another ignorant reaction, but I digress). He had NO plan to address inflation that we can speak of, so what were people voting for again?
Even the Murdoch owned WSJ said Harris' plan for the economy was better than trump's; clearly all those people who 'voted for the economy' missed that. Is that a messaging problem, or more a problem that people refuse to hear what they don't want to hear?
Whatever happened to personal responsibility, specifically in regards to reading up on and learning about issues? Conservatives used to be big on that.
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Gern Blansten said:mace1229 said:Gern Blansten said:Spiritual_Chaos said:Gern Blansten said:I think some of my posts over the last few months will show this. I have been saying that if trump wins it is because the electorate is just too fucking ignorant.
How do we recover from that? How does an opposition party combat complete ignorance of an electorate influenced by memes rather than actual facts? These people do not listen to in depth discussions of important topics, they vote strictly on outrage.
Thinks like this accelerate when society is going through a crisis and people therefore feel unsecure. See: Germany in the 30s
At the same time. Making people be less ego, shortsighted and racist takes effort. And I heard that youtuber Hasan once talk about how young men online is only met by a huge right wing space (whether that is Joe Rogan or Tim Pool or whoever) and the left has lost the fight of being an option. Ego and othering rules the day.
And effects of climate change etc, won't make the above easier over time ofc.
The perception is bad because car prices are up 25%. Grocery prices are way up. You're going to pay 2-3 times the mortgage if you buy a home today compared to 5 years ago. Insurance costs have skyrocketed.
There are a lot of people who are financially worse of today than they were 5 years ago.
You can argue who is and is not responsible, but I think downplaying the effects hurt.
These are the topics that I was seeing constantly in my tiktok feed...just bullshit clips blaming Harris/Biden, etc., for things that normally happen in our economy. Once again...ignorance. When the majority of the electorate is ignorant and the news they receive is false we get trump as the result.
It's very concerning to me.
I'm not fixing the above... Deal with it.0 -
shadowcast said:mrussel1 said:shadowcast said:
Also, I get the Cheney resentment, fuck those people, but that doesn't mean I would shoot myself in the foot and choose a dictator and upheaval of social systems created for the betterment of all people in this country. And while on that subject, you mention the Cheneys supporting Harris, what about neo nazi, white supremacists supporting Trump? Isn't that a fucking red flag to you? Good god, look at the big picture. Domestic terrorism will once again be on the rise and threaten this country and the nationalist view will leave the US out in the cold.
As for the ceasefire, maybe you weren't aware of this already so here you go.
https://www.npr.org/2024/10/28/nx-s1-5168008/israel-hamas-war-gaza-ceasefire-us-election
Also, no ceasefire is expected until January now because no one knows what to expect with our new dictator.
Yes I have problems with Israel and how they are handling the situation.
Trump is not a dictator and anyone that says that has been brain washed.
And yes, he continued arming Israel and will in the new admin as well. Nice cherry picking of your points.0 -
pjl44 said:This seems directionally correct to me but will certainly send leftists screeching0
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looking back, I feel like dem's biggest mistakes in 2016 and 2024 were running on character instead of hard policy. No one seems to care if the president is a POS, as long as he gets some shit done that they deem important.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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mace1229 said:Gern Blansten said:mace1229 said:Gern Blansten said:Spiritual_Chaos said:Gern Blansten said:I think some of my posts over the last few months will show this. I have been saying that if trump wins it is because the electorate is just too fucking ignorant.
How do we recover from that? How does an opposition party combat complete ignorance of an electorate influenced by memes rather than actual facts? These people do not listen to in depth discussions of important topics, they vote strictly on outrage.
Thinks like this accelerate when society is going through a crisis and people therefore feel unsecure. See: Germany in the 30s
At the same time. Making people be less ego, shortsighted and racist takes effort. And I heard that youtuber Hasan once talk about how young men online is only met by a huge right wing space (whether that is Joe Rogan or Tim Pool or whoever) and the left has lost the fight of being an option. Ego and othering rules the day.
And effects of climate change etc, won't make the above easier over time ofc.
The perception is bad because car prices are up 25%. Grocery prices are way up. You're going to pay 2-3 times the mortgage if you buy a home today compared to 5 years ago. Insurance costs have skyrocketed.
There are a lot of people who are financially worse of today than they were 5 years ago.
You can argue who is and is not responsible, but I think downplaying the effects hurt.
These are the topics that I was seeing constantly in my tiktok feed...just bullshit clips blaming Harris/Biden, etc., for things that normally happen in our economy. Once again...ignorance. When the majority of the electorate is ignorant and the news they receive is false we get trump as the result.
It's very concerning to me.
If we didn't already own a home prior to 2019, I don't think I could ever afford one in my lifetime. I don't know how younger couples are going to any time soon. In many parts of the country the average home, with insurance, taxes, higher interest rates, etc, is going to be more than the entire paycheck of a new teacher. So a young couple where both are teachers, or both have similar salaries, it will take the entire paycheck of one and a portion of the other to just pay their mortgage.
New car prices rises 25% in 5 years isn't normal. Which has also created a domino effect of cars lasting longer on the road, meaning more repairs and higher maintenance costs and increasing the cost of used cars.
Grocery prices rising nearly 30% in 5 years is not normal.
None of these things are things that "normally happen in our economy." And calming it is is just downplaying it.
Now, like I said, You can argue the causes. And I would agree covid is a huge factor. But just telling people it's not as bad as you think it is over and over again probably cost them the election.
Influx of migrants need to live somewhere.
Lack of supply of houses. Not a lot of new construction of houses in heavily populated areas anymore. You can only build up.
AirBnB/Vrbo have taken a chunk of the market and have part time rentals sucking up supply.
Flipping houses. Hollywood up a house w some paint and a rug and jack up the price. These are the new "used Car Salesmen".
Corporations have been gobbling up homes to rent thus driving prices up because they want a return on their investment.
Corporations offering Cash Prices to help you buy a house which comes with a premium on top thus raising the initial cost of the house.
Shall I go on with he problems of housing?
Totally agree w you that newer couples in no way are going to be able to afford houses. House poor will be a common phenomenon.0 -
tempo_n_groove said:mace1229 said:Gern Blansten said:mace1229 said:Gern Blansten said:Spiritual_Chaos said:Gern Blansten said:I think some of my posts over the last few months will show this. I have been saying that if trump wins it is because the electorate is just too fucking ignorant.
How do we recover from that? How does an opposition party combat complete ignorance of an electorate influenced by memes rather than actual facts? These people do not listen to in depth discussions of important topics, they vote strictly on outrage.
Thinks like this accelerate when society is going through a crisis and people therefore feel unsecure. See: Germany in the 30s
At the same time. Making people be less ego, shortsighted and racist takes effort. And I heard that youtuber Hasan once talk about how young men online is only met by a huge right wing space (whether that is Joe Rogan or Tim Pool or whoever) and the left has lost the fight of being an option. Ego and othering rules the day.
And effects of climate change etc, won't make the above easier over time ofc.
The perception is bad because car prices are up 25%. Grocery prices are way up. You're going to pay 2-3 times the mortgage if you buy a home today compared to 5 years ago. Insurance costs have skyrocketed.
There are a lot of people who are financially worse of today than they were 5 years ago.
You can argue who is and is not responsible, but I think downplaying the effects hurt.
These are the topics that I was seeing constantly in my tiktok feed...just bullshit clips blaming Harris/Biden, etc., for things that normally happen in our economy. Once again...ignorance. When the majority of the electorate is ignorant and the news they receive is false we get trump as the result.
It's very concerning to me.
If we didn't already own a home prior to 2019, I don't think I could ever afford one in my lifetime. I don't know how younger couples are going to any time soon. In many parts of the country the average home, with insurance, taxes, higher interest rates, etc, is going to be more than the entire paycheck of a new teacher. So a young couple where both are teachers, or both have similar salaries, it will take the entire paycheck of one and a portion of the other to just pay their mortgage.
New car prices rises 25% in 5 years isn't normal. Which has also created a domino effect of cars lasting longer on the road, meaning more repairs and higher maintenance costs and increasing the cost of used cars.
Grocery prices rising nearly 30% in 5 years is not normal.
None of these things are things that "normally happen in our economy." And calming it is is just downplaying it.
Now, like I said, You can argue the causes. And I would agree covid is a huge factor. But just telling people it's not as bad as you think it is over and over again probably cost them the election.
Influx of migrants need to live somewhere.
Lack of supply of houses. Not a lot of new construction of houses in heavily populated areas anymore. You can only build up.
AirBnB/Vrbo have taken a chunk of the market and have part time rentals sucking up supply.
Flipping houses. Hollywood up a house w some paint and a rug and jack up the price. These are the new "used Car Salesmen".
Corporations have been gobbling up homes to rent thus driving prices up because they want a return on their investment.
Corporations offering Cash Prices to help you buy a house which comes with a premium on top thus raising the initial cost of the house.
Shall I go on with he problems of housing?
Totally agree w you that newer couples in no way are going to be able to afford houses. House poor will be a common phenomenon.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
If only one of the candidates had a proposal to help 1st time home buyers.0 -
Merkin Baller said:
If only one of the candidates had a proposal to help 1st time home buyers.
In 4 years: we need help! my trailer needs a new paint job and my cousin needs a new wife beaterHugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:looking back, I feel like dem's biggest mistakes in 2016 and 2024 were running on character instead of hard policy. No one seems to care if the president is a POS, as long as he gets some shit done that they deem important.
The Democratic party favors a mixed economy and generally supports a progressive tax system, higher minimum wages, Social Security, universal health care, public education, and subsidized housing. It also supports infrastructure development and clean energy investments to achieve economic development and job creation.
This is what you get when you do a Google search. A lot more of this and a lot less "At least we're not Donald Trump" would've been nice. Not to mention a decent candidate that actually received votes in a primary.
1998: 6/26, 6/27, 6/29
2000: 8/15, 8/18, 10/9, 10/11, 10/12
2003: 6/18, 6/21, 6/22
2005: 9/9, 9/28
2006: 5/16, 5/17, 6/26, 6/27
2007: 8/5
2009: 8/23, 8/24
2010: 5/3, 5/4, 5/21
2011: 9/3, 9/4, 9/11, 9/12
2013: 7/19, 11/16
2014: 10/3, 10/9, 10/12, 10/17
2016: 4/16, 8/20, 8/22
2018: 8/18, 8/20, 9/2
2022: 9/18
2023: 8/31, 9/2, 9/5
2024: 5/18, 6/290
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