So 2-3% of people that voted for Biden now vote for Trump and it is racist and misogynistic that Kamala lost? I could see if 30% of the people that voted for Biden switched to Kamala.
Trump won because people thought he would do better with the economy, would better control illegal immigration, and would slow the advance of ultra woke policies.
Those are your reasons that Trump won. Sure, Trump may be terrible at those things, but people vote on their perceptions of reality. So Dems need to stop saying they lose because of racism and misogyny, and work harder to convince voters that they are better in these areas.
Before last night, Democrats had won 3 of the previous 4 Presidential elections. This country is more than willing to embrace Democrats to lead. Their best path forward is to take an honest appraisal of what happened vs. throwing a tantrum over the electorate.
It seems like throwing a tantrum worked just fine for Trump so maybe we throw all logic out the window and see what happens.
I think the inflation bullshit got to them. Once again the ignorance of not understanding why we were dealing with it (it is global...just like gas prices) and accepting that Biden/Harris should be blamed may have tipped it to trump.
Whatever.
If Joe and Kamala really outperformed the rest of the western world, and also what would have been with Trump at the reigns. Then maybe they should have been better at communicating this? Get people to think "We are lucky to have it this good, and they fight this global problem as good as possible" instead of "This is hell, let have someone else have a go. And fuck immigrants"
I mean, you had daft PJ fans in here be all "Kamala created inflation" and in the swedish news coverage a bunch of people said they voted for Trump because of thee economy and basically "because he says he will fix it".
That's my fear...I think in order to communicate to voters we now just have to lie and campaign via tiktok posts.
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So 2-3% of people that voted for Biden now vote for Trump and it is racist and misogynistic that Kamala lost? I could see if 30% of the people that voted for Biden switched to Kamala.
Trump won because people thought he would do better with the economy, would better control illegal immigration, and would slow the advance of ultra woke policies.
Those are your reasons that Trump won. Sure, Trump may be terrible at those things, but people vote on their perceptions of reality. So Dems need to stop saying they lose because of racism and misogyny, and work harder to convince voters that they are better in these areas.
As someone in the UK who isn't close to US policies, what's are examples of 'ultra woke policies'? Just curious.
Sexist would the correct assessment of why the huge swing.
So why didn't she get a single delegate in the 2020 primary? Was the democratic electorate racist or sexist? Or did they know that she a terrible candidate even then?
If you don't think sexism played a factor, i don't know that there's anything i can say to change your mind. Just go out there and read about the numerous women and men who don't think a woman should be president. That's an x factor she was born with and can't change, but yet the White male con man can do whatever he wants.
As I replied to one of your sexism posts yesterday, Hillary Clinton all but won in 2016, so it's not like people won't vote for a woman. Harris was unpopular as a candidate in 2020 (damn sexist democrats), unpopular as VP (very low approval rating), and she didn't earn this nomination. That's a terrible candidate whether it's a male or female.
Sexist would the correct assessment of why the huge swing.
So why didn't she get a single delegate in the 2020 primary? Was the democratic electorate racist or sexist? Or did they know that she a terrible candidate even then?
They tried to make Kamala happen (and did as good a job they could with it). But I think all the "Joy" and stuff felt shallow to people because all she was, was "not Trump". Most people who in the end voted D did it because they didn't want Trump more than being swayed by Kamala. She doesn't have that Obama, Bill or Trump charisma. Or even Tim Waltz or Joe Biden (when he was snappier) charisma. Or AOC.
It's like when they try to make a Hollywood-actor like Henry Cavill happen. And they keep trying to will that actor into a leading star. No, you won't make this movie a success because no matter how you try to sell him Henry Cavill is not a draw.
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Sexist would the correct assessment of why the huge swing.
So why didn't she get a single delegate in the 2020 primary? Was the democratic electorate racist or sexist? Or did they know that she a terrible candidate even then?
They tried to make Kamala happen (and did as good a job they could with it). But I think all the "Joy" and stuff felt shallow to people because all she was, was "not Trump". Most people who in the end voted D did it because they didn't want Trump more than being swayed by Kamala. She doesn't have that Obama, Bill or Trump charisma. Or even Tim Waltz or Joe Biden (when he was snappier) charisma. Or AOC.
So 2-3% of people that voted for Biden now vote for Trump and it is racist and misogynistic that Kamala lost? I could see if 30% of the people that voted for Biden switched to Kamala.
Trump won because people thought he would do better with the economy, would better control illegal immigration, and would slow the advance of ultra woke policies.
Those are your reasons that Trump won. Sure, Trump may be terrible at those things, but people vote on their perceptions of reality. So Dems need to stop saying they lose because of racism and misogyny, and work harder to convince voters that they are better in these areas.
As someone in the UK who isn't close to US policies, what's are examples of 'ultra woke policies'? Just curious.
DEi and CRT. Diversity Equity and Inclusion, Critical Race Theory.
Sexist would the correct assessment of why the huge swing.
So why didn't she get a single delegate in the 2020 primary? Was the democratic electorate racist or sexist? Or did they know that she a terrible candidate even then?
They tried to make Kamala happen (and did as good a job they could with it). But I think all the "Joy" and stuff felt shallow to people because all she was, was "not Trump". Most people who in the end voted D did it because they didn't want Trump more than being swayed by Kamala. She doesn't have that Obama, Bill or Trump charisma. Or even Tim Waltz or Joe Biden (when he was snappier) charisma. Or AOC.
Or even your boy Bernie Sanders.
Yes.
No one would have voted for Sam Worthington in a primary. But he got to lead some films back after Avatar. And I mean, I always thought he had the look to be able to play Eddie in a biopic. BUT THAT IS BESIDE THE POINT.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
So 2-3% of people that voted for Biden now vote for Trump and it is racist and misogynistic that Kamala lost? I could see if 30% of the people that voted for Biden switched to Kamala.
Trump won because people thought he would do better with the economy, would better control illegal immigration, and would slow the advance of ultra woke policies.
Those are your reasons that Trump won. Sure, Trump may be terrible at those things, but people vote on their perceptions of reality. So Dems need to stop saying they lose because of racism and misogyny, and work harder to convince voters that they are better in these areas.
As someone in the UK who isn't close to US policies, what's are examples of 'ultra woke policies'? Just curious.
DEi and CRT. Diversity Equity and Inclusion, Critical Race Theory.
really? I was just going to answer and say that it is likely things that the right manufactured and here we are
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So 2-3% of people that voted for Biden now vote for Trump and it is racist and misogynistic that Kamala lost? I could see if 30% of the people that voted for Biden switched to Kamala.
Trump won because people thought he would do better with the economy, would better control illegal immigration, and would slow the advance of ultra woke policies.
Those are your reasons that Trump won. Sure, Trump may be terrible at those things, but people vote on their perceptions of reality. So Dems need to stop saying they lose because of racism and misogyny, and work harder to convince voters that they are better in these areas.
As someone in the UK who isn't close to US policies, what's are examples of 'ultra woke policies'? Just curious.
In this election, seems to be trans-rights.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
I remember a professor I had said people will always vote their wallets and I think this is exactly what happened here. Prices are out of control; hopefully President Trump fulfills his promise of bringing prices back down.
I remember a professor I had said people will always vote their wallets and I think this is exactly what happened here. Prices are out of control; hopefully President Trump fulfills his promise of bringing prices back down.
We’ll see, not sure how putting tariffs on all imports is going to decrease prices and starting trade wars that will reduce the demand for US exports.
So 2-3% of people that voted for Biden now vote for Trump and it is racist and misogynistic that Kamala lost? I could see if 30% of the people that voted for Biden switched to Kamala.
Trump won because people thought he would do better with the economy, would better control illegal immigration, and would slow the advance of ultra woke policies.
Those are your reasons that Trump won. Sure, Trump may be terrible at those things, but people vote on their perceptions of reality. So Dems need to stop saying they lose because of racism and misogyny, and work harder to convince voters that they are better in these areas.
As someone in the UK who isn't close to US policies, what's are examples of 'ultra woke policies'? Just curious.
DEi and CRT. Diversity Equity and Inclusion, Critical Race Theory.
really? I was just going to answer and say that it is likely things that the right manufactured and here we are
DEI and CRT are just fancy ways of saying racism against whites.
Racism will not be tolerated any longer in this country. The Obama era is over.
So 2-3% of people that voted for Biden now vote for Trump and it is racist and misogynistic that Kamala lost? I could see if 30% of the people that voted for Biden switched to Kamala.
Trump won because people thought he would do better with the economy, would better control illegal immigration, and would slow the advance of ultra woke policies.
Those are your reasons that Trump won. Sure, Trump may be terrible at those things, but people vote on their perceptions of reality. So Dems need to stop saying they lose because of racism and misogyny, and work harder to convince voters that they are better in these areas.
As someone in the UK who isn't close to US policies, what's are examples of 'ultra woke policies'? Just curious.
DEi and CRT. Diversity Equity and Inclusion, Critical Race Theory.
One is a conceptual framework and the other is an academic field. Neither are policies. Try again.
Some like Trump, but most vote for him in spite of him. They don’t like liberal policies, and they will look past Trump’s antics and moral shortcomings because they are voting for policies. At least that is what I have been told by several folks.
Right or wrong, I think that is how a lot of voters got okay voting for Trump. They focused on policies they care about.
Dems can keep writing off half the nation as racist and anti-woman, but they will continue to lose with that mentality.
It can’t be policy based because “things are going to be a lot better” and “I have concepts of a plan” and “tarriff the shit out of everything” are not policies. And even if he did have an actual legit policy how do you ever just take his word for it that’s what he’ll do. He’ll say anything to get elected and his only compass is what will benefit him the most.
Maybe less policy specific, but many people look back to 5 or 6 years ago and enough people see their situation as better back then. More people could afford a home, more people could afford a car as compared to now. Between the huge spike in housing costs and interest rates compared to 5 years ago, a monthly mortgage has doubled, even tripled in from 5 years ago. You can argue how much of that has to do with trump and Biden/Harris, but many people are comparing their lives to 5 years ago. They see houses bought in 2019 have a mortgage of $1200, that same house today has a mortgage of $3000. Like I said, you can argue how much trump and Biden impact that, but that does effect votes.
So 2-3% of people that voted for Biden now vote for Trump and it is racist and misogynistic that Kamala lost? I could see if 30% of the people that voted for Biden switched to Kamala.
Trump won because people thought he would do better with the economy, would better control illegal immigration, and would slow the advance of ultra woke policies.
Those are your reasons that Trump won. Sure, Trump may be terrible at those things, but people vote on their perceptions of reality. So Dems need to stop saying they lose because of racism and misogyny, and work harder to convince voters that they are better in these areas.
As someone in the UK who isn't close to US policies, what's are examples of 'ultra woke policies'? Just curious.
DEi and CRT. Diversity Equity and Inclusion, Critical Race Theory.
really? I was just going to answer and say that it is likely things that the right manufactured and here we are
DEI and CRT are just fancy ways of saying racism against whites.
Racism will not be tolerated any longer in this country. The Obama era is over.
Are you 12 years old
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
So 2-3% of people that voted for Biden now vote for Trump and it is racist and misogynistic that Kamala lost? I could see if 30% of the people that voted for Biden switched to Kamala.
Trump won because people thought he would do better with the economy, would better control illegal immigration, and would slow the advance of ultra woke policies.
Those are your reasons that Trump won. Sure, Trump may be terrible at those things, but people vote on their perceptions of reality. So Dems need to stop saying they lose because of racism and misogyny, and work harder to convince voters that they are better in these areas.
As someone in the UK who isn't close to US policies, what's are examples of 'ultra woke policies'? Just curious.
DEi and CRT. Diversity Equity and Inclusion, Critical Race Theory.
One is a conceptual framework and the other is an academic field. Neither are policies. Try again.
If you don't think that is what people are afraid of then you need to read up more. Had to google them? Thats exactly what comes up as answers if u do. Good on you!
Sexist would the correct assessment of why the huge swing.
So why didn't she get a single delegate in the 2020 primary? Was the democratic electorate racist or sexist? Or did they know that she a terrible candidate even then?
If you don't think sexism played a factor, i don't know that there's anything i can say to change your mind. Just go out there and read about the numerous women and men who don't think a woman should be president. That's an x factor she was born with and can't change, but yet the White male con man can do whatever he wants.
As I replied to one of your sexism posts yesterday, Hillary Clinton all but won in 2016, so it's not like people won't vote for a woman. Harris was unpopular as a candidate in 2020 (damn sexist democrats), unpopular as VP (very low approval rating), and she didn't earn this nomination. That's a terrible candidate whether it's a male or female.
Yep. The Democrats botched this election so badly. Put everything behind a senile old man who was clearly not well and then had to pivot to the highly unpopular VP after the debate disaster. And then they just anoint Harris into the nomination. Not shocked at all by these results.
So 2-3% of people that voted for Biden now vote for Trump and it is racist and misogynistic that Kamala lost? I could see if 30% of the people that voted for Biden switched to Kamala.
Trump won because people thought he would do better with the economy, would better control illegal immigration, and would slow the advance of ultra woke policies.
Those are your reasons that Trump won. Sure, Trump may be terrible at those things, but people vote on their perceptions of reality. So Dems need to stop saying they lose because of racism and misogyny, and work harder to convince voters that they are better in these areas.
As someone in the UK who isn't close to US policies, what's are examples of 'ultra woke policies'? Just curious.
DEi and CRT. Diversity Equity and Inclusion, Critical Race Theory.
really? I was just going to answer and say that it is likely things that the right manufactured and here we are
That is definitely a focal point of the people who voted.
So 2-3% of people that voted for Biden now vote for Trump and it is racist and misogynistic that Kamala lost? I could see if 30% of the people that voted for Biden switched to Kamala.
Trump won because people thought he would do better with the economy, would better control illegal immigration, and would slow the advance of ultra woke policies.
Those are your reasons that Trump won. Sure, Trump may be terrible at those things, but people vote on their perceptions of reality. So Dems need to stop saying they lose because of racism and misogyny, and work harder to convince voters that they are better in these areas.
As someone in the UK who isn't close to US policies, what's are examples of 'ultra woke policies'? Just curious.
DEi and CRT. Diversity Equity and Inclusion, Critical Race Theory.
really? I was just going to answer and say that it is likely things that the right manufactured and here we are
That is definitely a focal point of the people who voted.
correct to some degree...but they are manufactured problems...like illegals voting and dems cooking elections...clearly if either of the latter were true then the dems would never lose
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So 2-3% of people that voted for Biden now vote for Trump and it is racist and misogynistic that Kamala lost? I could see if 30% of the people that voted for Biden switched to Kamala.
Trump won because people thought he would do better with the economy, would better control illegal immigration, and would slow the advance of ultra woke policies.
Those are your reasons that Trump won. Sure, Trump may be terrible at those things, but people vote on their perceptions of reality. So Dems need to stop saying they lose because of racism and misogyny, and work harder to convince voters that they are better in these areas.
As someone in the UK who isn't close to US policies, what's are examples of 'ultra woke policies'? Just curious.
DEi and CRT. Diversity Equity and Inclusion, Critical Race Theory.
really? I was just going to answer and say that it is likely things that the right manufactured and here we are
That is definitely a focal point of the people who voted.
correct to some degree...but they are manufactured problems...like illegals voting and dems cooking elections...clearly if either of the latter were true then the dems would never lose
I put them up there with immigration and inflation as the 4 most talking points I see mentioned. And I do agree w you as manufactured problems. I would even put in Trans in sports. That one was a real biggie for a bit too.
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Trump won because people thought he would do better with the economy, would better control illegal immigration, and would slow the advance of ultra woke policies.
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2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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It's like when they try to make a Hollywood-actor like Henry Cavill happen. And they keep trying to will that actor into a leading star. No, you won't make this movie a success because no matter how you try to sell him Henry Cavill is not a draw.
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No one would have voted for Sam Worthington in a primary. But he got to lead some films back after Avatar. And I mean, I always thought he had the look to be able to play Eddie in a biopic. BUT THAT IS BESIDE THE POINT.
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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Racism will not be tolerated any longer in this country. The Obama era is over.
More people could afford a home, more people could afford a car as compared to now. Between the huge spike in housing costs and interest rates compared to 5 years ago, a monthly mortgage has doubled, even tripled in from 5 years ago. You can argue how much of that has to do with trump and Biden/Harris, but many people are comparing their lives to 5 years ago. They see houses bought in 2019 have a mortgage of $1200, that same house today has a mortgage of $3000.
Like I said, you can argue how much trump and Biden impact that, but that does effect votes.
Yep. The Democrats botched this election so badly. Put everything behind a senile old man who was clearly not well and then had to pivot to the highly unpopular VP after the debate disaster. And then they just anoint Harris into the nomination. Not shocked at all by these results.
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana