** KAMALA HARRIS FOR PRESIDENT -PART DEUX **

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    PJ5a1 said:
    Can someone please outline 5 accomplishments of Harris' VP tenure? 
    Well here’s one biggie. She cast the tiebreaker vote for the Inflation Reduction Act, the largest legislation to fight climate change in world history. Which is apropos since she has been an environmental champion for decades. 

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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,069
    shecky said:

    Black Lives Matter says Dems are 'party of hypocrites' for 'installing' Harris sans 'public voting process'

    'We do not live in a dictatorship. Delegates are not oligarchs,' says Black Lives Matter

    Published July 23, 2024 5:43pm EDT | Updated July 23, 2024 6:11pm EDT

    The left-wing organization Black Lives Matter is resisting the installation of Vice President Kamala Harris as the presumptive Democratic nominee and are calling on the Democratic National Convention "to create a process that allows for public participation in the nomination process, not just a nomination by party delegates." 

    In a statement Tuesday, the group, which rose to prominence in 2020 for organizing nationwide protests in the wake of the killing of George Floyd, said that "a 24-hour process of talking to party bosses is not democratic, nor is it a process Democrats should be proud of." 

    For weeks after his disastrous debate performance last month, internal party pressure mounted against President Joe Biden to drop out of the race — though he resisted those calls and insisted he was "in it to win it." 

    But abruptly, over the weekend, Biden dropped out of the race and nominated Harris to lead the top of the ticket. And overnight, the Democratic Party coalesced around her, winning enough delegate support to secure the nomination at the DNC convention in August. 

    But, BLM, a group that predominantly aligns with the Democrat Party, is calling foul on the play. 

    "We do not live in a dictatorship. Delegates are not oligarchs. Installing Kamala Harris as the Democratic nominee and an unknown vice president without any public voting process would make the modern Democratic Party a party of hypocrites," the group said in a statement. 

    "Black Lives Matter demands that the [DNC] immediately host an informal, virtual snap primary across the country prior to the DNC convention in August."

    "We call for the Rules Committee to create a process that allows for public participation in the nomination process, not just a nomination by party delegates. The current political landscape is unprecedented, with President Biden stepping aside in a manner never seen before. This moment calls for decisive action to protect the integrity of our democracy and the voices of Black voters," it said.

    "Democratic Party elites and billionaire donors are attempting to manipulate Black voters by anointing Kamala Harris and an unknown vice president as the new Democratic ticket without a primary vote by the public," the group stated. 

    "This blatant disregard for democratic principles is unacceptable. While the potential outcome of a Harris presidency may be historic, the process to achieve it must align with true democratic values," it continued. 

    "We have no idea where Kamala Harris stands on the issues, now that she has assumed Joe Biden’s place, and we have no idea of the record of her potential vice president because we don’t even know who it is yet." 

    Shalomyah Bowers, a BLM leader, said, "This is not an attack on Kamala Harris or Black women, and right now we aren’t questioning Kamala’s qualifications or capabilities. This is about the nominating process."

    "Those of us who care about the principles of democracy cannot be serious about installing Kamala Harris and an unknown vice president as the Democratic nominee without any semblance of a people-powered process," Bowers said.

    "Not delegates and party elites, but actually asking communities across the country if they believe this should be the democratic ticket. Anything less is unserious in the quest for democracy."

    Efforts to reach the Harris campaign for comment were unsuccessful at press time. 

    Maybe BLM will team up with the Proud Boys and Three Percenters? A POOTWH trifecta.
    Need that Soros funding tho
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  • jimjam1982jimjam1982 Posts: 1,428
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    PJ5a1 said:
    Can someone please outline 5 accomplishments of Harris' VP tenure? 
    Well here’s one biggie. She cast the tiebreaker vote for the Inflation Reduction Act, the largest legislation to fight climate change in world history. Which is apropos since she has been an environmental champion for decades. 

    Casting a tie breaker isn't an accomplishment rofl what kind of  thinks that is an accomplishelment
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,016
    edited July 24
    PJ5a1 said:
    Can someone please outline 5 accomplishments of Harris' VP tenure? 
    Well here’s one biggie. She cast the tiebreaker vote for the Inflation Reduction Act, the largest legislation to fight climate change in world history. Which is apropos since she has been an environmental champion for decades. 

    Casting a tie breaker isn't an accomplishment rofl what kind of  thinks that is an accomplishelment
    I’m sure forcing your minions to scuttle the bipartisan immigration bill counts as an “accomplishment”, right?
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  • I'd buy a ticket to that
    Trump will leave with more than a bloody ear


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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,519
    He’s a coward and so are his deplorable supporters! He’s totally afraid of her just by the reaction of all the MAGA elite you can tell they can’t hit the curveball 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Can someone please outline 5 accomplishments of Pence's' VP tenure? 

    I'll start

    1) he barely escaped being hung to death by his own party on the White House lawn
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    The Party of Law and Order verses....maga

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/23/kamala-harris-trump-prosecutor-felon-2024-election/74469207007/

    Prosecutor vs. convicted felon: How Democrats believe Harris’ background changes the election

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    WASHINGTON – One candidate spent much of her career putting criminals behind bars. The other has been convicted of 34 felonies.

    Kamala Harris’ elevation to the top of the Democratic ticket against Republican Donald Trump sets the stage for a presidential contest unlike any other in American history in a campaign season already filled with unexpected twists and turns.

    The race to become the most powerful leader in the world is now coming down to this:

    A former prosecutor vs. a man convicted of felonies.

    Vice President Kamala Harris started her career in California as a prosecutor

    'I know Donald Trump's type'

    Democrats, who worried that questions about Biden’s advanced age and mental acuity would cause him to lose to Trump, sense that if Harris becomes their nominee, they have a chance to shift the focus back to Trump and his complicated tangle of legal problems.

    “This changed the complete dynamics of the race, and it changed the campaign dynamics dramatically,” Democratic strategist Isaac Wright said.

    If Harris is their nominee, age will no longer be the albatross that it was for Democrats when Biden, 81, was leading the ticket. If anything, Harris, 59, could enable Democrats to turn the age issue against the Republicans and Trump, who is 78 and now the oldest presidential nominee in history.

    Harris' prosecutorial skills, Democrats believe, will give her another big advantage in a head-to-head contest with Trump.

    “She has the prosecutorial chops to make mincemeat of the mendacious malefactor Trump,” said Rep. Steve Cohen, D-Tenn.

    Harris foreshadowed the line of attack she's preparing against Trump during a meeting with her campaign staff in Wilmington, Delaware, on Monday. Referencing her work as a prosecutor, Harris said she took on predators who abused women, fraudsters who ripped off consumers and cheaters who broke the rules for their own gain.

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    "I know Donald Trump's type," she said.

    Republicans insist Democrats will gain nothing from having a former prosecutor lead their ticket.

    “The era of ‘tough on crime’ Democrats is long gone," said Steven Groves, who held several roles in the Trump administration during his presidency. "Harris’ time as a criminal prosecutor is a hinderance, not a help, to her candidacy.”

    A natural successor:As President Joe Biden steps aside, is America ready for President Kamala Harris?

    Donald Trump is 'too criminal, too corrupt'

    Harris, who served as Biden’s vice president for the past three years, started her career as a prosecutor in California’s Alameda County and later in San Francisco. In that role, she took on cases involving child sexual assault, homicide, robbery and serial felony offenders, among others. She eventually was elected as California’s attorney general and, later, as U.S. senator.

    Trump, who served four years as president until he was defeated by Biden in 2020, became the first former president to be convicted of a crime when a New York jury found him guilty in May of 34 felony counts involving hush money payments to a former porn star with whom he allegedly had an extramarital affair. He is scheduled to be sentenced on Sept. 18 – just seven weeks before voters will decide whether to return him to the White House.

    Trump also has pleaded not guilty to multiple felony counts in three other cases involving his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election and his handling of classified documents after he left office.

    U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon, a Trump appointee, threw out the classified documents case in July, arguing that the special prosecutor who brought the charges had been improperly appointed. The Justice Department is expected to appeal. The other two cases remain in limbo following a Supreme Court ruling in July that Trump has immunity for some of his conduct as president.

    Former President Donald Trump has been convicted by a New York jury of 34 felonies involving hush-money payments to a former porn star with whom he allegedly had an extramarital affair

    Trump is unlikely to go to trial on any of the remaining cases before the November election.

    Which is one reason why Democrats see Harris’s background as a prosecutor as an invaluable asset in the coming crucial weeks of the campaign. Democrats believe that having Harris as their nominee will call attention to Trump’s criminal cases and boost their argument that his legal problems should disqualify him for office.

    “Her experiences as an attorney general, as a prosecutor, both lend strong credence to making the case against Trump that he is just too criminal, too corrupt, and doesn't share the values we need in a president,” said Wright, a veteran political strategist who worked on Hillary Clinton’s and Al Gore’s presidential campaigns.

    Clinton made essentially the same argument just hours after Biden withdrew from the race and Harris emerged as the frontrunner to replace him.

    “I’ve known Kamala Harris a long time,” Clinton wrote on X, formerly Twitter. “This brilliant prosecutor will make the case against convicted felon Donald Trump and the Project 2025 agenda to take away our freedoms.”

    As senator, Harris used her prosecutorial skills to grill witnesses during committee hearings. In one memorable exchange, she lobbed one rapid-fire question after another at then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions during a high-profile hearing in 2017 on Russian election interference.

    “I am not able to be rushed this fast,” a flustered Sessions said. “It makes me nervous.”

    Inside KamalaHQ:How Harris quickly began plotting campaign after Biden's shocking exit

    In the presidential campaign, Harris’ background prosecuting sexual predators will allow Democrats to draw a sharp contrast with Trump, who was recorded in 2005 telling an "Access Hollywood" co-host of grabbing women by their genitalia.

    Last year, a jury in a civil case found Trump liable for sexually assaulting magazine columnist E. Jean Carroll in 1996 and awarded her $5 million. In a separate case, a jury awarded Carroll $83.3 million in damages earlier this year after concluding that Trump defamed her by claiming she lied about a sexual encounter with him at a Manhattan department store.

    Harris’ experience as a prosecutor and Trump’s felony conviction also will give the Democrats an opening to counter the GOP argument that it is the party of law and order, Wright said.

    “It wrecks that argument for Republicans when their ticket is led by a convicted criminal and the Democratic ticket is led by a successful former prosecutor,” he said.

    Not all Democrats are convinced that Harris’ legal work will shake up the race.

    “Poll after poll demonstrates that the electorate doesn't really care about the president's legal issues, so I'm not sure I buy that her background as a prosecutor does much because I'm not sure there's much to gain there,” said Melissa DeRosa, a Democratic strategist and author.

    Harris’ background does, however, give her a real platform to talk about crime and quality of life in America from a position of strength, DeRosa said.

    “Her background in prosecuting homicide, robbery and three-strike cases shows she walks the walk, and given the moment we find ourselves in, with an electorate that increasingly feels the country is more and more out of control, having a tough-on-crime Democrat with a lifetime of work to point to can only be beneficial,” she said.

    'She was only thinking of herself'

    Harris’ work as a prosecutor could, in fact, open her up to attacks from Republicans, who have been mining her record for ammunition to use against her on the campaign trail.

    Before she became the Democratic front-runner, most of the GOP criticism leveled against her focused on her time as vice president and specifically her role in the Biden administration’s efforts to secure the southern border.

    Biden tasked Harris early in his presidency to lead the administration’s efforts with Mexico and Central American nations to address the root cause of illegal immigration. Though she was never directly responsible for security at the southern border, Republicans have accused her of failing to stem the flow of millions of migrants crossing illegally into the United States.

    Now, her work as a prosecutor will be under greater scrutiny.

    Coconut trees to 'brat summer':Kamala Harris' campaign is embracing the memes

    One line of attack is likely to involve her handling of the murder case against a gang member who killed San Francisco police officer Isaac Espinoza in 2004. The suspect, David Hill, gunned down Espinoza, 29, with an AK-47 the Saturday night before Easter.

    Harris, who had become San Francisco’s district attorney just three months earlier, came under fire for deciding to pursue a prison sentence of life without parole for Hill instead of seeking the death penalty. Her decision became an issue when she ran for president in 2020.

    “I felt like she had just taken something from us,” Espinoza’s widow, Renata, told CNN in 2019. “She had just taken justice from us. From Isaac. She was only thinking of herself.”

    Trump’s 2020 campaign slammed Harris over her decision not to seek the death penalty in the Isaac case, saying she “sided with criminals over cops” – a line of attack Republicans could try to resurrect now that she is the Democratic front-runner and Trump’s likely opponent in November.

    "Not only does Kamala need to defend her support of Joe Biden’s failed agenda over the past four years, she also needs to answer for her own terrible weak-on-crime record in California," Trump campaign spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt said.

    While Harris’ critics will pick at parts of her record, Wright thinks her prosecutorial background works to the Democrats’ overall advantage, especially in an abbreviated campaign.

    For many voters, Wright said, the choice for president will come down to this: “Do we want a criminal? Or do we want somebody that for much of their life has been putting criminals behind bars?”

    Contributing: Vivian Jones of The Tennessean


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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,262
    It's hilarious how the magas run with all the garbage on Harris. I guess I have been guilty of that as well since the "JD Vance fucked his couch" thing was total BS.

    They are really threatened by her. tRump is even asking for "equal time" from the networks due to Biden's speech tonight. 
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,362
    PJ5a1 said:
    Can someone please outline 5 accomplishments of Harris' VP tenure? 
    how about you outline 5 of trump's accomplishments and why he deserves to be president again?

    and no, "he made america great" doesn't count.
    It doesn’t count because you forgot “again”.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,262
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    Interesting...




    Haley must still be fighting for that possible cabinet position...lol
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,597
    PJ5a1 said:
    Can someone please outline 5 accomplishments of Harris' VP tenure? 
    Well here’s one biggie. She cast the tiebreaker vote for the Inflation Reduction Act, the largest legislation to fight climate change in world history. Which is apropos since she has been an environmental champion for decades. 

    Casting a tie breaker isn't an accomplishment rofl what kind of  thinks that is an accomplishelment
    You're obviously not here to be engaged in serious discussion, and you're only here to push your agenda. Juggs posted a list of 30 things she accomplished, which you obviously didn't click on.
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    Interesting...




    Haley must still be fighting for that possible cabinet position...lol
    “Forcing” them to cease and desist? Doesn’t sound like democracy to me.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,351
    shecky said:

    and golden toilet trump says he's one of the people. gimme a fucking break. 
    There is some truth to that.  The rich affluent 1% don't want to hang out with him, lol!
  • PJ5a1PJ5a1 Posts: 450
    PJ5a1 said:
    Can someone please outline 5 accomplishments of Harris' VP tenure? 
    Well here’s one biggie. She cast the tiebreaker vote for the Inflation Reduction Act, the largest legislation to fight climate change in world history. Which is apropos since she has been an environmental champion for decades. 

    Casting a tie breaker isn't an accomplishment rofl what kind of  thinks that is an accomplishelment
    You're obviously not here to be engaged in serious discussion, and you're only here to push your agenda. Juggs posted a list of 30 things she accomplished, which you obviously didn't click on.
    That is incorrect sir - I would really like to know 5 legit things she accomplished in her tenure as VP.

    However, I will say, many are so blinded by a "party" that regardless of the candidate they will just throw support their way. Again, I am voting for Trump. I don't agree with everything. I know he's failed in some key areas. I know he's been successful in key areas.

    For Harris, I really don't understand how anyone can be ok with her being given the candidacy without proper process and voice from the American people.   How does one go from not being able to gain one delegate to now being given the opportunity for one of the most powerful positions on the planet.  Her track record as a DA, her track record as a Senator and of course her job with the border were very underwhelming and concerning for me.
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  • ParksyParksy Posts: 1,753
    So I learned that Trump quite literally complained on the internet and actually cited "fraud" (LOL!!!!) for Biden dropping out of the race and being replaced by Harris. 

    Wow.  

    That said... for context here and while I can't say this for sure, I'm confident in this... in Canada we generally got tired of attack ads on TV and what not. This made the news here quite frequently and at the time during the election campaign our Conservatives were going hard attacking the Liberal Justin Trudeau while Trudeau didn't say peep about his opponent.  Instead, his campaign was about making himself look good and focusing on his platform.   He destroyed that election in a landslide.  Since, he's proven to be quite awful.... but at least at the time, he knew not to focus so heavily on attacking his opponent.    Trump is the complete opposite. So much so that he's whining like a fucking baby who needs a bottle that he has to campaign against someone else.  Sad. 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,262
    edited July 24
    PJ5a1 said:
    PJ5a1 said:
    Can someone please outline 5 accomplishments of Harris' VP tenure? 
    Well here’s one biggie. She cast the tiebreaker vote for the Inflation Reduction Act, the largest legislation to fight climate change in world history. Which is apropos since she has been an environmental champion for decades. 

    Casting a tie breaker isn't an accomplishment rofl what kind of  thinks that is an accomplishelment
    You're obviously not here to be engaged in serious discussion, and you're only here to push your agenda. Juggs posted a list of 30 things she accomplished, which you obviously didn't click on.
    That is incorrect sir - I would really like to know 5 legit things she accomplished in her tenure as VP.

    However, I will say, many are so blinded by a "party" that regardless of the candidate they will just throw support their way. Again, I am voting for Trump. I don't agree with everything. I know he's failed in some key areas. I know he's been successful in key areas.

    For Harris, I really don't understand how anyone can be ok with her being given the candidacy without proper process and voice from the American people.   How does one go from not being able to gain one delegate to now being given the opportunity for one of the most powerful positions on the planet.  Her track record as a DA, her track record as a Senator and of course her job with the border were very underwhelming and concerning for me.
    uh...lots of things should be concerning to you that apparently are not

    and what's with the "voice from the American people?" She was on the ticket with Biden and there is an election coming up. The people will have a voice without a doubt.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,262
    Parksy said:
    So I learned that Trump quite literally complained on the internet and actually cited "fraud" (LOL!!!!) for Biden dropping out of the race and being replaced by Harris. 

    Wow.  

    That said... for context here and while I can't say this for sure, I'm confident in this... in Canada we generally got tired of attack ads on TV and what not. This made the news here quite frequently and at the time during the election campaign our Conservatives were going hard attacking the Liberal Justin Trudeau while Trudeau didn't say peep about his opponent.  Instead, his campaign was about making himself look good and focusing on his platform.   He destroyed that election in a landslide.  Since, he's proven to be quite awful.... but at least at the time, he knew not to focus so heavily on attacking his opponent.    Trump is the complete opposite. So much so that he's whining like a fucking baby who needs a bottle that he has to campaign against someone else.  Sad. 
    That was kind of my point with PJ5a1...no one from tRump's former orbit is supporting him. Not the VP, not the SecDef, not the SecSt, not the Chief of Staff, etc.

    And he's not concerned about that? Makes absolutely no sense.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,519
    PJ5a1 said:
    PJ5a1 said:
    Can someone please outline 5 accomplishments of Harris' VP tenure? 
    Well here’s one biggie. She cast the tiebreaker vote for the Inflation Reduction Act, the largest legislation to fight climate change in world history. Which is apropos since she has been an environmental champion for decades. 

    Casting a tie breaker isn't an accomplishment rofl what kind of  thinks that is an accomplishelment
    You're obviously not here to be engaged in serious discussion, and you're only here to push your agenda. Juggs posted a list of 30 things she accomplished, which you obviously didn't click on.
    That is incorrect sir - I would really like to know 5 legit things she accomplished in her tenure as VP.

    However, I will say, many are so blinded by a "party" that regardless of the candidate they will just throw support their way. Again, I am voting for Trump. I don't agree with everything. I know he's failed in some key areas. I know he's been successful in key areas.

    For Harris, I really don't understand how anyone can be ok with her being given the candidacy without proper process and voice from the American people.   How does one go from not being able to gain one delegate to now being given the opportunity for one of the most powerful positions on the planet.  Her track record as a DA, her track record as a Senator and of course her job with the border were very underwhelming and concerning for me.
    Sorry but if you vote for trumpollini you stand with all his policies and actions! Please post one good human quality he possesses just one! 
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  • ParksyParksy Posts: 1,753
    PJ5a1 said:
    PJ5a1 said:
    Can someone please outline 5 accomplishments of Harris' VP tenure? 
    Well here’s one biggie. She cast the tiebreaker vote for the Inflation Reduction Act, the largest legislation to fight climate change in world history. Which is apropos since she has been an environmental champion for decades. 

    Casting a tie breaker isn't an accomplishment rofl what kind of  thinks that is an accomplishelment
    You're obviously not here to be engaged in serious discussion, and you're only here to push your agenda. Juggs posted a list of 30 things she accomplished, which you obviously didn't click on.
    That is incorrect sir - I would really like to know 5 legit things she accomplished in her tenure as VP.

    However, I will say, many are so blinded by a "party" that regardless of the candidate they will just throw support their way. Again, I am voting for Trump. I don't agree with everything. I know he's failed in some key areas. I know he's been successful in key areas.

    For Harris, I really don't understand how anyone can be ok with her being given the candidacy without proper process and voice from the American people.   How does one go from not being able to gain one delegate to now being given the opportunity for one of the most powerful positions on the planet.  Her track record as a DA, her track record as a Senator and of course her job with the border were very underwhelming and concerning for me.
    Strictly my opinion here... while I understand where you're coming from.. the whole delegates thing derives from folks being party loyal. I think the same applies to Trump but correct me if I'm wrong. 

    As for her being vetted.... she's been the #2 for like 3 years now. 

    I'm curious... what more proper process do you expect here?

    And you seriously don't consider her to be a better candidate politically?  A former District Attorney, Senator, Vice President?  She did all those things before getting a nomination. And for what it's worth, seems like a somewhat decent human. 

    Trump on the other hand ran a corrupt charity, a corrupt university, a corrupt / cheating business, was a TV host, WWE Hall of Famer, ran a beauty pageant (from what I understand feel free to fact check), and had a cameo in Home Alone 2: Lost in New York. And for what it's worth... cheated on his wife with a porn star, cheats on his taxes, cheats on his valuations, said he can grab women by the pussy because he's famous, amongst the many scummy things he has said and done. 

    But you're a Trump voter. Help me understand what you're getting at.  What did Trump accomplish in his tenure as President? 

    He helped the rich get richer. 
    He built a few miles of the border wall he promised... which to the best of my knowledge actually wasn't paid for by Mexico.
    He pulled troops from Asia which I give him credit for.... although he then offered those same troops to Saudi Arabia for a price... quite literally admitting that he didn't mind using the US Military as mercenaries for hire. 
    He promised to levy tariffs on Canada to bolster the steel industry in America only to flat out not do that when literally anyone with half a brain told him that would be a bad idea and have massively negative affects on agriculture. 
    He fumbled the pandemic. Did more whining than leading with the exception of trying to recommend humans literally drink fucking bleach. 
    He encouraged a coup.  And when he told his batshit crazy supporters to march to the capitol IN HIS NAME, he told them he would be there too.... which of course he wasn't. 

    The list goes on... but that's the bad.... give me the good. 

    I'm being open minded about what he did. What did he do in his 4 years in office that made America better? Thank you in advance for teaching me. I'm open to things I may not have known about. 
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  • ParksyParksy Posts: 1,753
    PJ5a1 said:
    PJ5a1 said:
    Can someone please outline 5 accomplishments of Harris' VP tenure? 
    Well here’s one biggie. She cast the tiebreaker vote for the Inflation Reduction Act, the largest legislation to fight climate change in world history. Which is apropos since she has been an environmental champion for decades. 

    Casting a tie breaker isn't an accomplishment rofl what kind of  thinks that is an accomplishelment
    You're obviously not here to be engaged in serious discussion, and you're only here to push your agenda. Juggs posted a list of 30 things she accomplished, which you obviously didn't click on.
    That is incorrect sir - I would really like to know 5 legit things she accomplished in her tenure as VP.

    However, I will say, many are so blinded by a "party" that regardless of the candidate they will just throw support their way. Again, I am voting for Trump. I don't agree with everything. I know he's failed in some key areas. I know he's been successful in key areas.

    For Harris, I really don't understand how anyone can be ok with her being given the candidacy without proper process and voice from the American people.   How does one go from not being able to gain one delegate to now being given the opportunity for one of the most powerful positions on the planet.  Her track record as a DA, her track record as a Senator and of course her job with the border were very underwhelming and concerning for me.
    Also, as a Trump voter... what are your thoughts on your King, Donald having donated to Kamala Harris previously?  Your King thought enough of her before to give her money. What say you? 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,262
    Parksy said:
    PJ5a1 said:
    PJ5a1 said:
    Can someone please outline 5 accomplishments of Harris' VP tenure? 
    Well here’s one biggie. She cast the tiebreaker vote for the Inflation Reduction Act, the largest legislation to fight climate change in world history. Which is apropos since she has been an environmental champion for decades. 

    Casting a tie breaker isn't an accomplishment rofl what kind of  thinks that is an accomplishelment
    You're obviously not here to be engaged in serious discussion, and you're only here to push your agenda. Juggs posted a list of 30 things she accomplished, which you obviously didn't click on.
    That is incorrect sir - I would really like to know 5 legit things she accomplished in her tenure as VP.

    However, I will say, many are so blinded by a "party" that regardless of the candidate they will just throw support their way. Again, I am voting for Trump. I don't agree with everything. I know he's failed in some key areas. I know he's been successful in key areas.

    For Harris, I really don't understand how anyone can be ok with her being given the candidacy without proper process and voice from the American people.   How does one go from not being able to gain one delegate to now being given the opportunity for one of the most powerful positions on the planet.  Her track record as a DA, her track record as a Senator and of course her job with the border were very underwhelming and concerning for me.
    Strictly my opinion here... while I understand where you're coming from.. the whole delegates thing derives from folks being party loyal. I think the same applies to Trump but correct me if I'm wrong. 

    As for her being vetted.... she's been the #2 for like 3 years now. 

    I'm curious... what more proper process do you expect here?

    And you seriously don't consider her to be a better candidate politically?  A former District Attorney, Senator, Vice President?  She did all those things before getting a nomination. And for what it's worth, seems like a somewhat decent human. 

    Trump on the other hand ran a corrupt charity, a corrupt university, a corrupt / cheating business, was a TV host, WWE Hall of Famer, ran a beauty pageant (from what I understand feel free to fact check), and had a cameo in Home Alone 2: Lost in New York. And for what it's worth... cheated on his wife with a porn star, cheats on his taxes, cheats on his valuations, said he can grab women by the pussy because he's famous, amongst the many scummy things he has said and done. 

    But you're a Trump voter. Help me understand what you're getting at.  What did Trump accomplish in his tenure as President? 

    He helped the rich get richer. 
    He built a few miles of the border wall he promised... which to the best of my knowledge actually wasn't paid for by Mexico.
    He pulled troops from Asia which I give him credit for.... although he then offered those same troops to Saudi Arabia for a price... quite literally admitting that he didn't mind using the US Military as mercenaries for hire. 
    He promised to levy tariffs on Canada to bolster the steel industry in America only to flat out not do that when literally anyone with half a brain told him that would be a bad idea and have massively negative affects on agriculture. 
    He fumbled the pandemic. Did more whining than leading with the exception of trying to recommend humans literally drink fucking bleach. 
    He encouraged a coup.  And when he told his batshit crazy supporters to march to the capitol IN HIS NAME, he told them he would be there too.... which of course he wasn't. 

    The list goes on... but that's the bad.... give me the good. 

    I'm being open minded about what he did. What did he do in his 4 years in office that made America better? Thank you in advance for teaching me. I'm open to things I may not have known about. 
    good stuff and spot on...
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,351
    Parksy said:
    PJ5a1 said:
    PJ5a1 said:
    Can someone please outline 5 accomplishments of Harris' VP tenure? 
    Well here’s one biggie. She cast the tiebreaker vote for the Inflation Reduction Act, the largest legislation to fight climate change in world history. Which is apropos since she has been an environmental champion for decades. 

    Casting a tie breaker isn't an accomplishment rofl what kind of  thinks that is an accomplishelment
    You're obviously not here to be engaged in serious discussion, and you're only here to push your agenda. Juggs posted a list of 30 things she accomplished, which you obviously didn't click on.
    That is incorrect sir - I would really like to know 5 legit things she accomplished in her tenure as VP.

    However, I will say, many are so blinded by a "party" that regardless of the candidate they will just throw support their way. Again, I am voting for Trump. I don't agree with everything. I know he's failed in some key areas. I know he's been successful in key areas.

    For Harris, I really don't understand how anyone can be ok with her being given the candidacy without proper process and voice from the American people.   How does one go from not being able to gain one delegate to now being given the opportunity for one of the most powerful positions on the planet.  Her track record as a DA, her track record as a Senator and of course her job with the border were very underwhelming and concerning for me.
    Also, as a Trump voter... what are your thoughts on your King, Donald having donated to Kamala Harris previously?  Your King thought enough of her before to give her money. What say you? 
    I'd say for years now people have donated to both party's so they are on ones good side no matter whom the victor is. Guess you didn't know that?
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    No wonder Elongitaint and POOTWH are freaking out. They thought they had the “dem controlled” tech industry sidelined. Oopsy.

    The boom in Democratic giving also follows a flood of announcements by major Silicon Valley donors that they were going to spend big to back Trump as Biden struggled to allay concerns about his health. Venture capitalist Marc Andreessen announced his support for Trump by saying Biden hadn’t made a big enough effort to build a relationship with the tech industry.

    That criticism doesn’t apply to Harris at all, said Chris Kelly, a former Facebook chief privacy officer who ran against Harris for California attorney general in 2010 and is now a co-owner of the Sacramento Kings NBA team. He supports Harris’s run for president and plans to donate to her campaign. She is from the Bay Area and has a long history of interacting with and working with the tech industry, he said Tuesday. That makes people in Silicon Valley a lot more comfortable, Kelly said.

    “Kamala Harris will have an open door and a willingness to reconsider some of the mistakes of this administration,” he said.

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,965
    edited July 24
    Parksy said:
    PJ5a1 said:
    PJ5a1 said:
    Can someone please outline 5 accomplishments of Harris' VP tenure? 
    Well here’s one biggie. She cast the tiebreaker vote for the Inflation Reduction Act, the largest legislation to fight climate change in world history. Which is apropos since she has been an environmental champion for decades. 

    Casting a tie breaker isn't an accomplishment rofl what kind of  thinks that is an accomplishelment
    You're obviously not here to be engaged in serious discussion, and you're only here to push your agenda. Juggs posted a list of 30 things she accomplished, which you obviously didn't click on.
    That is incorrect sir - I would really like to know 5 legit things she accomplished in her tenure as VP.

    However, I will say, many are so blinded by a "party" that regardless of the candidate they will just throw support their way. Again, I am voting for Trump. I don't agree with everything. I know he's failed in some key areas. I know he's been successful in key areas.

    For Harris, I really don't understand how anyone can be ok with her being given the candidacy without proper process and voice from the American people.   How does one go from not being able to gain one delegate to now being given the opportunity for one of the most powerful positions on the planet.  Her track record as a DA, her track record as a Senator and of course her job with the border were very underwhelming and concerning for me.
    Also, as a Trump voter... what are your thoughts on your King, Donald having donated to Kamala Harris previously?  Your King thought enough of her before to give her money. What say you? 
    I'd say for years now people have donated to both party's so they are on ones good side no matter whom the victor is. Guess you didn't know that?
    Trump thought he was sending money to this guy: 

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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,262
    Parksy said:
    PJ5a1 said:
    PJ5a1 said:
    Can someone please outline 5 accomplishments of Harris' VP tenure? 
    Well here’s one biggie. She cast the tiebreaker vote for the Inflation Reduction Act, the largest legislation to fight climate change in world history. Which is apropos since she has been an environmental champion for decades. 

    Casting a tie breaker isn't an accomplishment rofl what kind of  thinks that is an accomplishelment
    You're obviously not here to be engaged in serious discussion, and you're only here to push your agenda. Juggs posted a list of 30 things she accomplished, which you obviously didn't click on.
    That is incorrect sir - I would really like to know 5 legit things she accomplished in her tenure as VP.

    However, I will say, many are so blinded by a "party" that regardless of the candidate they will just throw support their way. Again, I am voting for Trump. I don't agree with everything. I know he's failed in some key areas. I know he's been successful in key areas.

    For Harris, I really don't understand how anyone can be ok with her being given the candidacy without proper process and voice from the American people.   How does one go from not being able to gain one delegate to now being given the opportunity for one of the most powerful positions on the planet.  Her track record as a DA, her track record as a Senator and of course her job with the border were very underwhelming and concerning for me.
    Also, as a Trump voter... what are your thoughts on your King, Donald having donated to Kamala Harris previously?  Your King thought enough of her before to give her money. What say you? 
    I'd say for years now people have donated to both party's so they are on ones good side no matter whom the victor is. Guess you didn't know that?
    but she accepted a donation from a criminal...
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,083
    PJ5a1 said:
    Can someone please outline 5 accomplishments of Harris' VP tenure? 
    Can someone please change their profile pic? It’s jarring my senses. 
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