I’ve realized something. When the Trump-supporting Republicans on here perceive strength from Democrats, they show up more often, speak with more venom, and call everyone names. The petty and childish arguments are clear signs of fear.
I also don’t feel that many or any of these posters have engaged in any semblance of respectful or dignified or genuine discussion, and so I hope they aren’t surprised when no one really cares what they have to say about how Democrats should or shouldn’t behave. They have no standards for their own side, and their words about how Democrats should govern themselves aren’t worth paying any attention to.
Exactly why I have put some people here on ignore. If they wanted to discuss in a genuine and civil manner, I would be happy to engage. But the stream of memes, and attempts to merely instigate, bate, and talk nonsense is not worth anyone's time- certainly not mine! The more they are ignored, the more likely they are to go find some other hobby or whatever it is they get out doing what they do here.
As a liberal (barely anymore), I'm not sure we are living in the same reality. I've been here for a loooong time, I just don't care to post very often. The extreme left on here viciously attacks anyone who disagrees with them, often employing Ad Hominem and Strawman attacks, if not outright personal attacks. Don't tell me no...I see it on a weekly basis. And it's happened to me as well, even though I'm not playing for the other team. Not sure I can blame you all though, you have been enabled. Conservatives break the rules, they are banned. Liberals break the rules, thread gets locked and a 2 week suspension, then you're back. What is that saying you all like to employ? "rules for thee, but not for me."
Hey, I've got 'em all beat. I'm not a moderator, so I can't ban anyone (nor have I suggested anyone here be banned). In fact, I self-banned for 6 months once because I knew something I said was breaking rules here big-time.
Please don't refer to me as "enabled". I have actually been disabled (still am, partially), and have been semi homeless, living in my vehicle not by choice for a few years a good while ago. Please don't make those kinds of judgements.
I don't mean it as judgement on anyone, just my observations. I am certainly not judging you. You are by far the most respectful poster here. You always try to have an actual debate until it is obvious that it is a lost cause. If everyone had your emotional intelligence, this might be a productive place.
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Can someone please outline 5 accomplishments of Harris' VP tenure?
Would you settle for 30, sir?
And save me the "that was Biden--I said Kamala"----the Trump campaign is going to attach her to everything they see as a negative with the Biden administration. It goes both ways, whether you like it or not.
Former President Trump says he's open to debating Vice President Kamala Harris more than once as the two face off in the 2024 presidential election.
"Absolutely. I'd want to. I think it's important," Trump said Tuesday when asked by Fox News' Bill Melugin on a conference call with reporters if he would commit to debating Harris at least once.
"I would be willing to do more than one debate, actually," Trump emphasized.
President Biden, in a blockbuster announcement Sunday, suspended his 2024 re-election rematch with Trump and endorsed his vice president. The move by Biden ignited a surge of endorsements by Democratic governors, senators, House members and other party leaders backing Harris to succeed Biden as the party's 2024 standard-bearer.
Biden suspended his campaign amid mounting pressure from within the Democratic Party for him to drop out after a disastrous performance in last month's first presidential debate with Trump.
The 81-year-old president's uneven delivery and awkward answers during the first 20 minutes of the debate in front of a national audience quickly prompted questions about his mental and physical ability to serve another four years in the White House.
Harris on Monday night announced that she'd locked up the nomination by landing commitments of backing from a majority of the nearly 4,000 delegates to next month's Democratic National Convention, which kicks off Aug. 19 in Chicago.
Trump told reporters debating Harris instead of Biden "will be no different because they have the same policies."
The former president, who skipped out on the GOP presidential primary debates with his Republican challengers, said, "I think debating is important for a presidential race. I really do.
"I think if you’re the Democrat nominee or the Republican nominee, you have an obligation to debate. I think it’s very important."
Trump, in comments with reporters on a call where he amplified his criticism of Harris on the crucial issue of border security, once again took aim at ABC News, which was scheduled to host the second debate between Biden and Trump in early September.
"I'm not thrilled about ABC because they're truly fake news," Trump said.
He noted that when it comes to the next presidential debate, "I have at least equal say. And I don't like the idea of ABC."
i'd watch her destroy him more than once.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris speaks during an NCAA championship teams celebration on the South Lawn of the White House on July 22, 2024 in Washington, DC. U.S. President Joe Biden abandoned his campaign for a second term after weeks of pressure from fellow Democrats to withdraw and just months ahead of the November election, throwing his support behind Harris.
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A race for president between former President Donald Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris is too close to call, according to a poll released Monday by Quinnipiac University.
"The dramatic reset at the top of the Democratic ticket does little to move the race as Vice President Harris enters the fray with numbers similar to President Biden," said Quinnipiac University Polling Analyst Tim Malloy.
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The former presumptive Democratic nominee President Joe Biden decided Sunday to step down from the race, saying he would not be running for reelection and instead endorsed Harris to take his place on the ticket.
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One day later, Quinnipiac University pollsters asked likely voters who they would support: Harris or Trump, who accepted the Republican nomination as that party's presidential candidate during the GOP convention last week.
"Harris and former President Trump are in a race that is too close to call with Trump receiving 49 percent support and Harris receiving 47 percent support," the poll showed, according to a release. "There is no clear leader as the lead is within the margin of error."
The poll, conducted July 19 through July 21, included 1,257 self-identified registered voters with a margin of error of 2.8 percent.
According to the poll, a majority of voters, 62 percent, believe that Biden dropping out of the presidential race was the right thing to do, the polls said.
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A previous Quinnipiac poll, released June 26, put Trump four points ahead of Biden, 49 to 45 percent in a head-to-head match.
"The political heat rises in this steamy American summer of discord. Trump holds a narrow lead in the head-to-head matchup and is in a slightly better position when all the candidates are included," Malloy said in June.
Biden has endorsed Harris, as have many other Democratic politicians, including most of Connecticut's delegation.
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"I believe Kamala Harris is the right person to move the Democratic Party and this nation forward," said state Sen. Gary Winfield, D-New Haven. "She is fiercely intelligent and highly capable of leading in this moment."
The Democratic Party will formally select its presidential nominee at the Democratic National Convention at Chicago's United Center beginning Aug. 19.
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another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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I’ve realized something. When the Trump-supporting Republicans on here perceive strength from Democrats, they show up more often, speak with more venom, and call everyone names. The petty and childish arguments are clear signs of fear.
I also don’t feel that many or any of these posters have engaged in any semblance of respectful or dignified or genuine discussion, and so I hope they aren’t surprised when no one really cares what they have to say about how Democrats should or shouldn’t behave. They have no standards for their own side, and their words about how Democrats should govern themselves aren’t worth paying any attention to.
Exactly why I have put some people here on ignore. If they wanted to discuss in a genuine and civil manner, I would be happy to engage. But the stream of memes, and attempts to merely instigate, bate, and talk nonsense is not worth anyone's time- certainly not mine! The more they are ignored, the more likely they are to go find some other hobby or whatever it is they get out doing what they do here.
As a liberal (barely anymore), I'm not sure we are living in the same reality. I've been here for a loooong time, I just don't care to post very often. The extreme left on here viciously attacks anyone who disagrees with them, often employing Ad Hominem and Strawman attacks, if not outright personal attacks. Don't tell me no...I see it on a weekly basis. And it's happened to me as well, even though I'm not playing for the other team. Not sure I can blame you all though, you have been enabled. Conservatives break the rules, they are banned. Liberals break the rules, thread gets locked and a 2 week suspension, then you're back. What is that saying you all like to employ? "rules for thee, but not for me."
Hey, I've got 'em all beat. I'm not a moderator, so I can't ban anyone (nor have I suggested anyone here be banned). In fact, I self-banned for 6 months once because I knew something I said was breaking rules here big-time.
Please don't refer to me as "enabled". I have actually been disabled (still am, partially), and have been semi homeless, living in my vehicle not by choice for a few years a good while ago. Please don't make those kinds of judgements.
I don't mean it as judgement on anyone, just my observations. I am certainly not judging you. You are by far the most respectful poster here. You always try to have an actual debate until it is obvious that it is a lost cause. If everyone had your emotional intelligence, this might be a productive place.
I'm sorry if I misunderstood, Seanwon. And I wish I could say I live up to your kind words. I try, but I have my fair share of flaws, for sure. I do think this is as good a place as any for all of us to learn and be better at discussing and debating. I know I've learned a lot here. And I haven't been the least bit tempted to give myself a time-out since, oh, maybe November, 2016.
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Published July 23, 2024 5:43pm EDT| Updated July 23, 2024 6:11pm EDT
The left-wing organization Black Lives Matter is resisting the installation of Vice President Kamala Harris as the presumptive Democratic nominee and are calling on the Democratic National Convention "to create a process that allows for public participation in the nomination process, not just a nomination by party delegates."
In a statement Tuesday, the group, which rose to prominence in 2020 for organizing nationwide protests in the wake of the killing of George Floyd, said that "a 24-hour process of talking to party bosses is not democratic, nor is it a process Democrats should be proud of."
For weeks after his disastrous debate performance last month, internal party pressure mounted against President Joe Biden to drop out of the race — though he resisted those calls and insisted he was "in it to win it."
But abruptly, over the weekend, Biden dropped out of the race and nominated Harris to lead the top of the ticket. And overnight, the Democratic Party coalesced around her, winning enough delegate support to secure the nomination at the DNC convention in August.
But, BLM, a group that predominantly aligns with the Democrat Party, is calling foul on the play.
"We do not live in a dictatorship. Delegates are not oligarchs. Installing Kamala Harris as the Democratic nominee and an unknown vice president without any public voting process would make the modern Democratic Party a party of hypocrites," the group said in a statement.
"Black Lives Matter demands that the [DNC] immediately host an informal, virtual snap primary across the country prior to the DNC convention in August."
"We call for the Rules Committee to create a process that allows for public participation in the nomination process, not just a nomination by party delegates. The current political landscape is unprecedented, with President Biden stepping aside in a manner never seen before. This moment calls for decisive action to protect the integrity of our democracy and the voices of Black voters," it said.
"Democratic Party elites and billionaire donors are attempting to manipulate Black voters by anointing Kamala Harris and an unknown vice president as the new Democratic ticket without a primary vote by the public," the group stated.
"This blatant disregard for democratic principles is unacceptable. While the potential outcome of a Harris presidency may be historic, the process to achieve it must align with true democratic values," it continued.
"We have no idea where Kamala Harris stands on the issues, now that she has assumed Joe Biden’s place, and we have no idea of the record of her potential vice president because we don’t even know who it is yet."
Shalomyah Bowers, a BLM leader, said, "This is not an attack on Kamala Harris or Black women, and right now we aren’t questioning Kamala’s qualifications or capabilities. This is about the nominating process."
"Those of us who care about the principles of democracy cannot be serious about installing Kamala Harris and an unknown vice president as the Democratic nominee without any semblance of a people-powered process," Bowers said.
"Not delegates and party elites, but actually asking communities across the country if they believe this should be the democratic ticket. Anything less is unserious in the quest for democracy."
Efforts to reach the Harris campaign for comment were unsuccessful at press time.
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Jesse Watters: "She didn't earn this; she inherited it."
So I guess MAGA world is dumping their T---p family dynasty t-shirts? And, wait, where did T---p get his money? And what does "earning" an elected office look like if it doesn't look like winning an election?
All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
As a Canadian, I find it appalling how much money us spent on politics in the states. I honestly find it kind if gross. People send money to millionaires when the amount of money spent could probably end homelessness in the entire country in one cycle.
Thank Citizens United...
It is disgusting. Such a waste and possibly our eventual downfall.
It’s a huge reason someone wins. Biden essentially had to withdraw because the mega donors said the money was stopping. So now a handful of billionaires selected Kamala over having an open convention?
Which billionaires are you referring to?
most of the politically active billionaires are supporting trump.
In 2022. George Soros contributed 128 million on the midterm elections. Someone who doesn’t even live here. How is that acceptable.
And a Soros mention for the trifecta!
When you already have mysogyny and racism it's a must to add anti-semitism.
Published July 23, 2024 5:43pm EDT | Updated July 23, 2024 6:11pm EDT
The left-wing organization Black Lives Matter is resisting the installation of Vice President Kamala Harris as the presumptive Democratic nominee and are calling on the Democratic National Convention "to create a process that allows for public participation in the nomination process, not just a nomination by party delegates."
In a statement Tuesday, the group, which rose to prominence in 2020 for organizing nationwide protests in the wake of the killing of George Floyd, said that "a 24-hour process of talking to party bosses is not democratic, nor is it a process Democrats should be proud of."
For weeks after his disastrous debate performance last month, internal party pressure mounted against President Joe Biden to drop out of the race — though he resisted those calls and insisted he was "in it to win it."
But abruptly, over the weekend, Biden dropped out of the race and nominated Harris to lead the top of the ticket. And overnight, the Democratic Party coalesced around her, winning enough delegate support to secure the nomination at the DNC convention in August.
But, BLM, a group that predominantly aligns with the Democrat Party, is calling foul on the play.
"We do not live in a dictatorship. Delegates are not oligarchs. Installing Kamala Harris as the Democratic nominee and an unknown vice president without any public voting process would make the modern Democratic Party a party of hypocrites," the group said in a statement.
"Black Lives Matter demands that the [DNC] immediately host an informal, virtual snap primary across the country prior to the DNC convention in August."
"We call for the Rules Committee to create a process that allows for public participation in the nomination process, not just a nomination by party delegates. The current political landscape is unprecedented, with President Biden stepping aside in a manner never seen before. This moment calls for decisive action to protect the integrity of our democracy and the voices of Black voters," it said.
"Democratic Party elites and billionaire donors are attempting to manipulate Black voters by anointing Kamala Harris and an unknown vice president as the new Democratic ticket without a primary vote by the public," the group stated.
"This blatant disregard for democratic principles is unacceptable. While the potential outcome of a Harris presidency may be historic, the process to achieve it must align with true democratic values," it continued.
"We have no idea where Kamala Harris stands on the issues, now that she has assumed Joe Biden’s place, and we have no idea of the record of her potential vice president because we don’t even know who it is yet."
Shalomyah Bowers, a BLM leader, said, "This is not an attack on Kamala Harris or Black women, and right now we aren’t questioning Kamala’s qualifications or capabilities. This is about the nominating process."
"Those of us who care about the principles of democracy cannot be serious about installing Kamala Harris and an unknown vice president as the Democratic nominee without any semblance of a people-powered process," Bowers said.
"Not delegates and party elites, but actually asking communities across the country if they believe this should be the democratic ticket. Anything less is unserious in the quest for democracy."
Efforts to reach the Harris campaign for comment were unsuccessful at press time.
Maybe BLM will team up with the Proud Boys and Three Percenters? A POOTWH trifecta.
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The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
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2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
THAT is lunacy.
What are we doing here? lol
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The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
And save me the "that was Biden--I said Kamala"----the Trump campaign is going to attach her to everything they see as a negative with the Biden administration. It goes both ways, whether you like it or not.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/02/02/joe-biden-30-policy-things-you-might-have-missed-00139046
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
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and no, "he made america great" doesn't count.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
https://x.com/Olivia_Beavers/status/1815839150949687533
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
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Exclusive: Harris leads Trump 44% to 42% in US presidential race, Reuters/Ipsos poll finds - https://www.reuters.com/world/us/harris-leads-trump-44-42-us-presidential-race-reutersipsos-poll-finds-2024-07-23/
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Black Lives Matter says Dems are 'party of hypocrites' for 'installing' Harris sans 'public voting process'
'We do not live in a dictatorship. Delegates are not oligarchs,' says Black Lives Matter
The left-wing organization Black Lives Matter is resisting the installation of Vice President Kamala Harris as the presumptive Democratic nominee and are calling on the Democratic National Convention "to create a process that allows for public participation in the nomination process, not just a nomination by party delegates."
In a statement Tuesday, the group, which rose to prominence in 2020 for organizing nationwide protests in the wake of the killing of George Floyd, said that "a 24-hour process of talking to party bosses is not democratic, nor is it a process Democrats should be proud of."
For weeks after his disastrous debate performance last month, internal party pressure mounted against President Joe Biden to drop out of the race — though he resisted those calls and insisted he was "in it to win it."
But abruptly, over the weekend, Biden dropped out of the race and nominated Harris to lead the top of the ticket. And overnight, the Democratic Party coalesced around her, winning enough delegate support to secure the nomination at the DNC convention in August.
But, BLM, a group that predominantly aligns with the Democrat Party, is calling foul on the play.
"We do not live in a dictatorship. Delegates are not oligarchs. Installing Kamala Harris as the Democratic nominee and an unknown vice president without any public voting process would make the modern Democratic Party a party of hypocrites," the group said in a statement.
"Black Lives Matter demands that the [DNC] immediately host an informal, virtual snap primary across the country prior to the DNC convention in August."
"We call for the Rules Committee to create a process that allows for public participation in the nomination process, not just a nomination by party delegates. The current political landscape is unprecedented, with President Biden stepping aside in a manner never seen before. This moment calls for decisive action to protect the integrity of our democracy and the voices of Black voters," it said.
"Democratic Party elites and billionaire donors are attempting to manipulate Black voters by anointing Kamala Harris and an unknown vice president as the new Democratic ticket without a primary vote by the public," the group stated.
"This blatant disregard for democratic principles is unacceptable. While the potential outcome of a Harris presidency may be historic, the process to achieve it must align with true democratic values," it continued.
"We have no idea where Kamala Harris stands on the issues, now that she has assumed Joe Biden’s place, and we have no idea of the record of her potential vice president because we don’t even know who it is yet."
Shalomyah Bowers, a BLM leader, said, "This is not an attack on Kamala Harris or Black women, and right now we aren’t questioning Kamala’s qualifications or capabilities. This is about the nominating process."
"Those of us who care about the principles of democracy cannot be serious about installing Kamala Harris and an unknown vice president as the Democratic nominee without any semblance of a people-powered process," Bowers said.
"Not delegates and party elites, but actually asking communities across the country if they believe this should be the democratic ticket. Anything less is unserious in the quest for democracy."
Efforts to reach the Harris campaign for comment were unsuccessful at press time.
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