Transgendered/Trans-Identifying Athletes

Kat

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Kat

Discussions that don’t include name-calling or use dehumanizing characterizations of others are superior and can be thought provoking, which is the point of discussion and debate. We can learn a lot from each other…many points of view. 

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Gern Blansten

The continuing discussions I see on facebook about this subject are absolutely disgusting. Nothing brings out the hate more than magats who have been proven wrong yet they double down on their bullshit and have all become genetic experts.

tempo_n_groove

lastexitlondon

The problem is the internet. It always is.  It gives people a hiding place to spew shit anonymously. A cowards dream 

brianlux

lastexitlondon said:

The problem is the internet. It always is.  It gives people a hiding place to spew shit anonymously. A cowards dream 

This is so true.  Imagine if everyone talked to each other in person like they do on the internet.

Store clerk:  I don't know why you're buying this shit. It makes your poop stink.

Customer 1:  Yeah, like you stink.

Store Clerk:  Well at least I don't suck.

Customer 2 behind customer 1:  You are both commie fags!

It would be insane.

tempo_n_groove

brianlux said:

lastexitlondon said:

The problem is the internet. It always is.  It gives people a hiding place to spew shit anonymously. A cowards dream 

This is so true.  Imagine if everyone talked to each other in person like they do on the internet.

Store clerk:  I don't know why you're buying this shit. It makes your poop stink.

Customer 1:  Yeah, like you stink.

Store Clerk:  Well at least I don't suck.

Customer 2 behind customer 1:  You are both commie fags!

It would be insane.

Commie fag, lol.  They say that in the song Uneasy Rider.

F Me In The Brain

Gern Blansten said:

The continuing discussions I see on facebook about this subject are absolutely disgusting. Nothing brings out the hate more than magats who have been proven wrong yet they double down on their bullshit and have all become genetic experts.

Your big problem here is thinking magats can be proven wrong.
They are never wrong.
Ask one.

lastexitlondon

That and reading Facebook at all

F Me In The Brain

Good point 

curmudgeoness

An article on the boxing controversy that tries to address the many problematic aspects of the story:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/08/olympic-boxing-gender-debate-imane-khelif/679410/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=the-atlantic-am&utm_term=The+Atlantic+AM

Gern Blansten

Spunkie

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Spunkie

curmudgeoness said:

An article on the boxing controversy that tries to address the many problematic aspects of the story:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/08/olympic-boxing-gender-debate-imane-khelif/679410/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=the-atlantic-am&utm_term=The+Atlantic+AM

Thanks you've been really great in this thread, as always.

Your article points out that gender really matters in boxing because males upper bodies can punch the ball back better.

 I'd argue that's exactly what that goalie did to the ball that they (note the correct pronoun usage SC) were able to reach being a head taller than the rest. It inflamed my anger again. The transgendered identifying child punched that ball harder back at my kiddos head -  if the science backing that article is correct - which come on now, doesn't take a rocket scientist, I mean physicist. Wait let me call in the brain measuring guy...

DarthMaeglin

I’m not familiar with France’s legal system but it will be interesting to see where this goes.

 I was spending time with my aunt and uncle and my uncle continually referred to the female boxer using male pronouns. I tried to correct him using the facts and logic (usually the way to get through to him) but I’m not sure I got through. He’s also made the claim that gay people in general are inferior athletes based on the fact there are very few “out” athletes in the major North American sports (which speaks to me of the locker room culture, not the athletic prowess of individuals).

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/summer/boxing/boxing-harassment-imane-khelif-1.7292457

tempo_n_groove

DarthMaeglin said:

I’m not familiar with France’s legal system but it will be interesting to see where this goes.

 I was spending time with my aunt and uncle and my uncle continually referred to the female boxer using male pronouns. I tried to correct him using the facts and logic (usually the way to get through to him) but I’m not sure I got through. He’s also made the claim that gay people in general are inferior athletes based on the fact there are very few “out” athletes in the major North American sports (which speaks to me of the locker room culture, not the athletic prowess of individuals).

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/summer/boxing/boxing-harassment-imane-khelif-1.7292457

Ask him if he's heard of Greg Luganis?  Arthur Ahse, Billy Jean King.

So locker room culture.  It's a different world.  You get the "ok" from your black friends to use the N word.  You throw the terms Gay and Fag around like they aren't anything.  To each other it's nothing.  It really means nothing to them.  There was an instance here recently that player Jarren Drran called a spectator a homophobic term, nobody seems to want to write what it is so I don't know either, He was suspended for 2 days and fines as he should be.  The locker room and the real world are two different places.  If you want to conduct yourself like the locker room you will pay the consequences.

Try telling this to the outside world and they lose their minds.

Spunkie

tbergs

Spunkie said:

I don't see a tail pipe so I'm open to accepting that identifier. We're all just looking to fit in.

tempo_n_groove

There is a meme going around the alt right that states the Olympic person whom let Khelif in was fired for letting her in because she is a he.
I've seen it a few times but no news has been about it.

Amazing how people just keep spreading the same misinformation over and over.

tbergs

tempo_n_groove said:

There is a meme going around the alt right that states the Olympic person whom let Khelif in was fired for letting her in because she is a he.
I've seen it a few times but no news has been about it.

Amazing how people just keep spreading the same misinformation over and over.

The intentional spreading of the lie is disgusting.