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  • KatKat Posts: 4,878
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,677
    The continuing discussions I see on facebook about this subject are absolutely disgusting. Nothing brings out the hate more than magats who have been proven wrong yet they double down on their bullshit and have all become genetic experts.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 14,148
    The problem is the internet. It always is.  It gives people a hiding place to spew shit anonymously. A cowards dream 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,321
    The problem is the internet. It always is.  It gives people a hiding place to spew shit anonymously. A cowards dream 

    This is so true.  Imagine if everyone talked to each other in person like they do on the internet.

    Store clerk:  I don't know why you're buying this shit. It makes your poop stink.
    Customer 1:  Yeah, like you stink.
    Store Clerk:  Well at least I don't suck.
    Customer 2 behind customer 1:  You are both commie fags!

    It would be insane.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    brianlux said:
    The problem is the internet. It always is.  It gives people a hiding place to spew shit anonymously. A cowards dream 

    This is so true.  Imagine if everyone talked to each other in person like they do on the internet.

    Store clerk:  I don't know why you're buying this shit. It makes your poop stink.
    Customer 1:  Yeah, like you stink.
    Store Clerk:  Well at least I don't suck.
    Customer 2 behind customer 1:  You are both commie fags!

    It would be insane.
    Commie fag, lol.  They say that in the song Uneasy Rider.
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,388
    The continuing discussions I see on facebook about this subject are absolutely disgusting. Nothing brings out the hate more than magats who have been proven wrong yet they double down on their bullshit and have all become genetic experts.
    Your big problem here is thinking magats can be proven wrong.
    They are never wrong.
    Ask one.
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 14,148
    That and reading Facebook at all
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,388
    Good point 
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  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 3,990
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,677

    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • SpunkieSpunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 6,732
    edited August 10
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  • SpunkieSpunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 6,732
    edited August 10
    Thanks you've been really great in this thread, as always.

    Your article points out that gender really matters in boxing because males upper bodies can punch the ball back better.

     I'd argue that's exactly what that goalie did to the ball that they (note the correct pronoun usage SC) were able to reach being a head taller than the rest. It inflamed my anger again. The transgendered identifying child punched that ball harder back at my kiddos head -  if the science backing that article is correct - which come on now, doesn't take a rocket scientist, I mean physicist. Wait let me call in the brain measuring guy...
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  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,643
    I’m not familiar with France’s legal system but it will be interesting to see where this goes.

     I was spending time with my aunt and uncle and my uncle continually referred to the female boxer using male pronouns. I tried to correct him using the facts and logic (usually the way to get through to him) but I’m not sure I got through. He’s also made the claim that gay people in general are inferior athletes based on the fact there are very few “out” athletes in the major North American sports (which speaks to me of the locker room culture, not the athletic prowess of individuals).

    https://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/summer/boxing/boxing-harassment-imane-khelif-1.7292457
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    edited August 14
    I’m not familiar with France’s legal system but it will be interesting to see where this goes.

     I was spending time with my aunt and uncle and my uncle continually referred to the female boxer using male pronouns. I tried to correct him using the facts and logic (usually the way to get through to him) but I’m not sure I got through. He’s also made the claim that gay people in general are inferior athletes based on the fact there are very few “out” athletes in the major North American sports (which speaks to me of the locker room culture, not the athletic prowess of individuals).

    https://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/summer/boxing/boxing-harassment-imane-khelif-1.7292457
    Ask him if he's heard of Greg Luganis?  Arthur Ahse, Billy Jean King.

    So locker room culture.  It's a different world.  You get the "ok" from your black friends to use the N word.  You throw the terms Gay and Fag around like they aren't anything.  To each other it's nothing.  It really means nothing to them.  There was an instance here recently that player Jarren Drran called a spectator a homophobic term, nobody seems to want to write what it is so I don't know either, He was suspended for 2 days and fines as he should be.  The locker room and the real world are two different places.  If you want to conduct yourself like the locker room you will pay the consequences.

    Try telling this to the outside world and they lose their minds.
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  • SpunkieSpunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 6,732

  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,880
    Spunkie said:

    I don't see a tail pipe so I'm open to accepting that identifier. We're all just looking to fit in.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    There is a meme going around the alt right that states the Olympic person whom let Khelif in was fired for letting her in because she is a he.
    I've seen it a few times but no news has been about it.

    Amazing how people just keep spreading the same misinformation over and over.
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,880
    There is a meme going around the alt right that states the Olympic person whom let Khelif in was fired for letting her in because she is a he.
    I've seen it a few times but no news has been about it.

    Amazing how people just keep spreading the same misinformation over and over.
    The intentional spreading of the lie is disgusting. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 42,172
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  • sheckyshecky San Francisco Posts: 2,078

    Martina Navratilova has long been outspoken about transgender athletes in girls' and women's sports.

    In a new post on X, the tennis legend said she was "mad" that Republicans have tackled the nationwide controversy, rather than Democrats, the party which she has aligned with.

    Navratilova shared a photo of Congresswoman Nancy Mace, R-S.C., with members of Gays Against Groomers, holding up a shirt that read "Save Girls' Sports."

    "And I am so mad that the Republicans captured this issue – shame on all the elected Democrats who keep silent on this!!! #whataboutthewomen," she wrote on X.

    This is not the first time Navratilova has ripped the left for their different views on the issue. The tennis legend appeared at the Independent Women's Forum's "Take Back Title IX" rally in June as she and other prominent women athletes pushed back on the Biden administration’s Title IX rewrite.

    Navratilova said that she and her fellow Democrats tried to make the playing field fair for transgender athletes to compete in women’s sports. However, when she did more research, she determined it was an impossible task.

    "Initially, being the Democrats and the women that we are for the most part, we in this group were trying to find every single possible way to include trans-identified men, males who identify as women, into women’s sports," she said. "And the more we try to find a way to mitigate the advantage, to handicap, to somehow to include, the more we figured out it’s not possible. It’s not possible to do it in a fair way and here we are in a much different position.

    "As I got deeper into the issue, I also saw the connection between women’s sex-based spaces and women’s sports – they are totally interconnected, and I’m sure the swimmers at Penn could tell you all about that. You heard about Lia Thomas, right?"

    "Now, it’s, ‘Oh, you’re a homophobe.’ Go figure. I’ve been out since ’81, yeah, I’m a homophobe," she said, rolling her eyes. "‘You’re a bigot, you’re a transphobe, you’re a Nazi, you’re a fascist, you’re a communist,’ everything and everything in between. And this is coming from the left. I am the left! My people are turning on me. They’re turning on us, women, who speak up for women’s sex-based rights."

    Navratilova recently called Italian sprinter Valentina Petrillo, who competed in the Paralympics as a trans woman, a "pathetic cheater." In March, she made a plea to "keep women's sports female."


  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    Replies to tweets isn’t the left turning on her. Or anyone really. 
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    Replies to tweets isn’t the left turning on her. Or anyone really. 
    But that's what the masses think today.  If there is a tweet or two then the majority MUST think that way.
  • SpunkieSpunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 6,732
    edited December 6
    Well, I'm glad Pipsqueak quit soccer. She's trying volleyball. I think Volleyball BC inclusion policy (unlike Soccer BC) doesn't allow the XY players if they went through male puberty with XY hormones producing well you know...  I'll look into that more...



    I know volleyball players risk concussions, too, but at least they even out her U14 playground a bit better. (Maybe that's just Canada? BC could be different? who knows this is pretty tricky).

    https://www.transathlete.com/canada-national-governing-bodies#:~:text=Volleyball Canada policy allows transgender,according to their birth certificate.
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  • SpunkieSpunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 6,732
    edited December 6
    Thanks, I checked it out. It's interesting to see all the different policies out there and not just between different sports but political parties, countries, and even provinces here.
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  • SpunkieSpunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 6,732
    tbergs said:
    Spunkie said:

    I don't see a tail pipe so I'm open to accepting that identifier. We're all just looking to fit in.
    :rofl:
  • SpunkieSpunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 6,732
    edited December 6
    When I click volleyballBC inclusion, equity etc policy... I got shit, lol

    Hope I don't find out the hard way?!





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  • SpunkieSpunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 6,732
    edited December 6
    https://cces.ca/sites/default/files/content/docs/2024-01/cces-trans-inclusion-policy-guidance-en.pdf

    This stuff is from 2015-2011 etc. Maybe it's just if children identify as any gender they play that? I don't know I give up. let's just hope for less injuries in this sport!


    Oh Christ does football mean soccer f*** I really give up
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