Who will be the Democratic nominee?

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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    nicknyr15 said:
    dignin said:
    Kat said:
    Just one more thought to share. There are forces working to cause the panic...some from other countries...and they've been doing all they can to interfere with America for a very long time. I personally have no doubt that we do not know everything that is going on. Another word on my mind is strength, no definition necessary. Be well.   
    Biden's incompetence is causing the panic. Rightfully so.

    America is sleep walking into disaster. 

    Fuck Biden, he's a selfish asshole.
     Makes me think they’ve seen things behind the scenes for awhile and that performance was the last straw. Either way, it’s a shitty situation this late in the game. . He should’ve immediately stated he was a one term guy. He had an incredible career and did his job in beating Trump and having a successful presidency. Nothing to be ashamed of. 
    I agree with this.
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,381
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    you all are falling for the polls again. its still too early for polling to be meaningful, yet here we are.
    To me, this is bigger than polling. Biden is clearly in a questionable state to have a presidential debate. Since the POTUS is a 'persuasive leader' role, that's deeply concerning for me in terms of his ability to rally Congress and the Senate, and even more so in persuading foreign leaders in negotiating discussions. 

    This is insanely frustrating to witness. 

    2016: Clinton vs. Trump. Democrats can't believe Republicans have no standards in their nominee. Democrats are also frustrated that the party won't pass the torch to a more 'in tune' politician.

    2020: Biden vs. Trump. Democrats can't believe Republicans have no standards in their nominee. Democrats are also frustrated that the party won't pass the torch to a more 'in tune' politician, and are worried about the age of their politician. 

    2024: Biden vs. Trump. Democrats can't believe Republicans have no standards in their nominee. Democrats are also frustrated that the party won't pass the torch to a more 'in tune' politician, and are even more worried about the age of their politician - and now their mental fitness, which is visibly questionable. 

    How many more four-year terms are Democrats willing to kick the can (this discussion)? 
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    you all are falling for the polls again. its still too early for polling to be meaningful, yet here we are.
    That's ridiculous. Crazy to stick your head in the sand and ignore what all the polling is telling us. What anyone with eyes can see.

    Anyone who really cares about your country should be running around with their hair on fire right now.

    You seriously think Biden can do the job for another 4 years? Not that it matters because he won't win, doesn't have the tools beat the most unfit candidate in at least my lifetime.

    This shouldn't even be close. It's malpractice.


  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
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    dignin said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    you all are falling for the polls again. its still too early for polling to be meaningful, yet here we are.
    That's ridiculous. Crazy to stick your head in the sand and ignore what all the polling is telling us. What anyone with eyes can see.

    Anyone who really cares about your country should be running around with their hair on fire right now.

    You seriously think Biden can do the job for another 4 years? Not that it matters because he won't win, doesn't have the tools beat the most unfit candidate in at least my lifetime.

    This shouldn't even be close. It's malpractice.


    Is he ok to run the country for 6 more months or just needs to be replaced because polls show he can’t beat Trump?
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,196
    dignin said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    you all are falling for the polls again. its still too early for polling to be meaningful, yet here we are.
    That's ridiculous. Crazy to stick your head in the sand and ignore what all the polling is telling us. What anyone with eyes can see.

    Anyone who really cares about your country should be running around with their hair on fire right now.

    You seriously think Biden can do the job for another 4 years? Not that it matters because he won't win, doesn't have the tools beat the most unfit candidate in at least my lifetime.

    This shouldn't even be close. It's malpractice.


    polls do not matter this far out. if biden is the nominee he is going to win. because the alternative is trump, and a majority of americans remember how terrible he was the first time and have no reason to believe he will be better this time.

    biden needs to win the election and then plan his exit. it is far too late in the game to introduce a new dem candidate and then try to foist them onto the american people. biden has done a good job and deserves a 2nd term.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,250

    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,196
    Gern Blansten said:

    nate silver wants trump to win and he is showing biden still can win. even after the assassination attempt.

    project 2025 will sink trump. no democratic candidate will. trump needs to be tattooed with his record and project 2025 and americans will reject him.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,250
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Gern Blansten said:

    nate silver wants trump to win and he is showing biden still can win. even after the assassination attempt.

    project 2025 will sink trump. no democratic candidate will. trump needs to be tattooed with his record and project 2025 and americans will reject him.
    After 2016 I am hesitant to fully accept Nate's analysis but they seem to make corrections that the regular polling overlooks. His results factor in current unemployment rates, stock market, other economic indicators. They also factor in how the democrat votes have been stronger in actual elections in 2022 than the polling reflected prior to those elections.

    Part of me thinks that tRump polls high because his base tends to be older and at home answering phones, etc. Gen Z doesn't know what a land line is.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,250


    Here is the VA simulation...big news today with tRump coming out ahead in one poll but no mention of other polls over the same time period where Biden is ahead
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Tjm007
    Tjm007 Posts: 189
    Kamala Harris
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Gern Blansten said:

    nate silver wants trump to win and he is showing biden still can win. even after the assassination attempt.

    project 2025 will sink trump. no democratic candidate will. trump needs to be tattooed with his record and project 2025 and americans will reject him.
    Project 2025 is a joke.

    standing behind a vegetable for 3 years will end the Dems for this election - no amount of imported voters and ballot harvesting can overcome this deceit.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,366
    Tjm007 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Gern Blansten said:

    nate silver wants trump to win and he is showing biden still can win. even after the assassination attempt.

    project 2025 will sink trump. no democratic candidate will. trump needs to be tattooed with his record and project 2025 and americans will reject him.
    Project 2025 is a joke.

    standing behind a vegetable for 3 years will end the Dems for this election - no amount of imported voters and ballot harvesting can overcome this deceit.
    Tell us about the successful 62 lawsuits and Dinesh Depoopa’s 10,000 mules lawsuit loss. We’re a patient bunch.

    Hilarious.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,196
    Tjm007 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Gern Blansten said:

    nate silver wants trump to win and he is showing biden still can win. even after the assassination attempt.

    project 2025 will sink trump. no democratic candidate will. trump needs to be tattooed with his record and project 2025 and americans will reject him.
    Project 2025 is a joke.

    standing behind a vegetable for 3 years will end the Dems for this election - no amount of imported voters and ballot harvesting can overcome this deceit.
    well vote for project 2025 then.

    i stand by my post.

    serious question though. how come all of the documented cases of voter fraud were committed by republicans?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,543
    Josh Shapiro
    Interesting 


  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    pjl44 said:
    Interesting 


    Fingers crossed this is true.

    In my opinion a truncated open primary is the best of all options.

    Would be extra nice if it was announced just before or during asshole Trumps speech.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,543
    Josh Shapiro
    dignin said:
    pjl44 said:
    Interesting 


    Fingers crossed this is true.

    In my opinion a truncated open primary is the best of all options.

    Would be extra nice if it was announced just before or during asshole Trumps speech.
    It would be incredible if they scheduled the announcement against his speech
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,366
    Oooooo, palace intrigue!
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  • CM189191
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    pjl44 said:
    Interesting 


    "multiple sources"

    Mark Evan Halperin is an American journalist, television cable host, and commentator for the conservative Newsmax TV

    *wank*


    By all means, keep Biden's name in the headlines.  "There's no such thing as bad publicity"
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,543
    Josh Shapiro
    CM189191 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Interesting 


    "multiple sources"

    Mark Evan Halperin is an American journalist, television cable host, and commentator for the conservative Newsmax TV

    *wank*


    By all means, keep Biden's name in the headlines.  "There's no such thing as bad publicity"
    Despite his current sketchy employer the guy did write Game Change. However.....counterpoint:


  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    pjl44 said:
    CM189191 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Interesting 


    "multiple sources"

    Mark Evan Halperin is an American journalist, television cable host, and commentator for the conservative Newsmax TV

    *wank*


    By all means, keep Biden's name in the headlines.  "There's no such thing as bad publicity"
    Despite his current sketchy employer the guy did write Game Change. However.....counterpoint:


    "Sources"
    👍
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,488
    edited July 2024
    Bernie on the situation:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWhIQ4SnsxY
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"

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