Who will be the Democratic nominee?

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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,732
    Joe Biden
    CM189191 said:
    brianlux said:
    Check this out!  You may or may not be a Jello fan (I am!), but his ideas here make good sense and, besides, nothing is working right now.  If you like Mr. Biafra's idea here, spread it around.  It's not too late (Jon Stewart said the same and they both proved it).

    Jello Biafra spoke on my campus immediately after 9/11/2001.  I mean immediately like the next day, or possibly later the same week.  We were still parsing who did what and why, it was just the aftermath of a terrible tragedy.  

    Sheer coincidence - his speech was already scheduled and he could have cancelled or re-scheduled.  He did not.  Instead, he scrapped his usually prepared remarks; to give one of the most inspirational and life-changing lectures of my life.

    If anyone had a crystal ball that day, they lent it to Jello.  Spent much of his speech going on about how the government (and Conservatives in particular) will use 9/11 to exploit and abuse any / every civil liberty we enjoy.  I wish I could find a record or transcript.

    Excellent!  I would love to see or read that speech!

    A drummer friend of mine, Andy, came into the bookstore one day in 2017.  I heard Andy say "hi" and I glanced up and said "hello" and then noticed someone was with him.  Oh my, did I ever do a double take!  Andy said, "Hey Brian, this is my friend Jello."  What a trip!  I kept my cool and told Jello I was pleased to meet him, without going too overboard with gushing (well, inside I was, haha).  
    A couple of things I loved about meeting Jello included how down-to-earth and easy going and friendly he is.  As punk and heavy hitting as he is on stage, in person he's both a very cool guy and a real sweet soul.   The other thing I remember quite well is how sharp Jello is.  He said things off the top of his head that were so brilliant and, just as often, absolutely hilarious.  He's also a real cat lover.  What an honor and pleasure it was to meet the man.  (And I will say the same for Andy.  I'm so lucky to know him!)
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,006
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,006
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,006
    Joe Biden

    Biden's plan for a second term includes:
    - raising taxes on millionaires and billionaires
    - breaking up monopolies
    - reducing junk fees from banks and airlines
    - further lowering the cost of prescription drugs
    - increasing worker protections
    - strengthening unions
    - capping the rate of rental price increases
    - battling corporate profiteering

    Gee, I wonder why the rich and powerful want him to step aside... 🤔🧐
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,732
    Joe Biden
    mickeyrat said:

    Biden's plan for a second term includes:
    - raising taxes on millionaires and billionaires
    - breaking up monopolies
    - reducing junk fees from banks and airlines
    - further lowering the cost of prescription drugs
    - increasing worker protections
    - strengthening unions
    - capping the rate of rental price increases
    - battling corporate profiteering

    Gee, I wonder why the rich and powerful want him to step aside... 🤔🧐

    No kidding!
    What's really baffling is why the average American (the vast majority of us) would give up those things in favor of having a megalomaniac with no clear agenda run the whole damn show.   Very odd indeed. 
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,358
    Joe Biden
    mickeyrat said:

    Biden's plan for a second term includes:
    - raising taxes on millionaires and billionaires
    - breaking up monopolies
    - reducing junk fees from banks and airlines
    - further lowering the cost of prescription drugs
    - increasing worker protections
    - strengthening unions
    - capping the rate of rental price increases
    - battling corporate profiteering

    Gee, I wonder why the rich and powerful want him to step aside... 🤔🧐
    His plan for a second term is to get a motorized ramp for Air Force one, change all communication to written only, and find more comfortable adult diapers.  
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,358
    Joe Biden
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Biden's plan for a second term includes:
    - raising taxes on millionaires and billionaires
    - breaking up monopolies
    - reducing junk fees from banks and airlines
    - further lowering the cost of prescription drugs
    - increasing worker protections
    - strengthening unions
    - capping the rate of rental price increases
    - battling corporate profiteering

    Gee, I wonder why the rich and powerful want him to step aside... 🤔🧐

    No kidding!
    What's really baffling is why the average American (the vast majority of us) would give up those things in favor of having a megalomaniac with no clear agenda run the whole damn show.   Very odd indeed. 
    I mean have you all watched Biden at all over this 4 years? Did you watch the debate? Have you seen the interviews since?

    Y’all liberals are blind to your own issues. Always just call out “whataboutism” instead of seeing the man crumbling before your eyes. 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,006
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,006
    Joe Biden
    There are 800 Billionaires. That’s only 800 votes, people. Meanwhile, more than 80 million of us voted for Biden in 2020. This is a reminder there are more of us but they control the media and are using it against us prevent some of us from voting.

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  • sheckyshecky Posts: 1,774

    Hillary Clinton floated as ‘mightiest of all’ Biden replacements in column, gets mocked online

    Trump senior advisor Jason Miller shared the piece on X and declared, 'SHE'S RUNNING'

    Published July 20, 2024 4:16pm EDT

    Social media users were surprised by a new column from "The Hill" floating former Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton as the replacement for President Biden’s 2024 candidacy.

    The outlet’s opinion contributor, Pablo O’Hana authored a piece on Saturday titled, "Ready for Round 2: Why we Need Hillary more than ever." It argued that the former U.S. Secretary of State, who already lost the presidency to former President Trump in 2016, is the most suitable person to replace Biden as calls for him to suspend his re-election camp grow.

    The piece turned heads on social media, with people like senior Trump advisor Jason Miller theorizing that there must be some weight behind this claim. "SHE’S RUNNING!!!" he declared.

    In the column, O’Hana wrote, "The strongest argument against replacing President Joe Biden as the 2024 Democratic nominee is the notion that no suitable successor exists. But there is, and not just a good one but one of the most qualified people ever to run for the office: Hillary Rodham Clinton."

    He even asserted that Clinton is "perhaps the mightiest of all" alternatives to Biden, arguing that she is "younger than both Biden and Trump," has "an unparalleled resume and an unmatched depth of experience," and is a strong advocate "for children’s rights and health care."

    The author even went so far as to say that there are "millions" of voters who regret not voting for her in 2016 and want a do-over. 

    "These swing-back voters are crucial to winning; Clinton can turn past regrets into proactive support by being a powerful reminder of the stakes of straying in 2024."

    O’Hana concluded his piece, declaring, "The Democrats have a seasoned, savvy and adaptable candidate in Hillary Clinton. Without the burden of incumbency, she can run on a platform of stability, restoration and progress, with the credibility of her lifetime in public service and proven leadership. In her candidacy, we might just find our best chance to retain the White House and transcend the gladiatorial spectacle of politics."

    The piece got some attention on X. In his post, Miller added, "These opinion pieces don’t happen organically - Crooked is on the move!!!"

    Conservative commentator Alex Sheppard remarked on the piece, stating, "If so, this is great news for Trump. She is the least likable politician of all time."


  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,732
    Joe Biden
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Biden's plan for a second term includes:
    - raising taxes on millionaires and billionaires
    - breaking up monopolies
    - reducing junk fees from banks and airlines
    - further lowering the cost of prescription drugs
    - increasing worker protections
    - strengthening unions
    - capping the rate of rental price increases
    - battling corporate profiteering

    Gee, I wonder why the rich and powerful want him to step aside... 🤔🧐

    No kidding!
    What's really baffling is why the average American (the vast majority of us) would give up those things in favor of having a megalomaniac with no clear agenda run the whole damn show.   Very odd indeed. 
    I mean have you all watched Biden at all over this 4 years? Did you watch the debate? Have you seen the interviews since?

    Y’all liberals are blind to your own issues. Always just call out “whataboutism” instead of seeing the man crumbling before your eyes. 

    Oh come on man, you too?  You're  not MAGA.  This does not merit an response, bud.  You're better than this.


    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,358
    Joe Biden
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Biden's plan for a second term includes:
    - raising taxes on millionaires and billionaires
    - breaking up monopolies
    - reducing junk fees from banks and airlines
    - further lowering the cost of prescription drugs
    - increasing worker protections
    - strengthening unions
    - capping the rate of rental price increases
    - battling corporate profiteering

    Gee, I wonder why the rich and powerful want him to step aside... 🤔🧐

    No kidding!
    What's really baffling is why the average American (the vast majority of us) would give up those things in favor of having a megalomaniac with no clear agenda run the whole damn show.   Very odd indeed. 
    I mean have you all watched Biden at all over this 4 years? Did you watch the debate? Have you seen the interviews since?

    Y’all liberals are blind to your own issues. Always just call out “whataboutism” instead of seeing the man crumbling before your eyes. 

    Oh come on man, you too?  You're  not MAGA.  This does not merit an response, bud.  You're better than this.


    This is not some grand scheme of rich democrats wanting Joe out cause he was going to tax them. He is unfit. Everyone saw it.  And he is going to lose…and we will all suffer for it. 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,732
    Joe Biden
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Biden's plan for a second term includes:
    - raising taxes on millionaires and billionaires
    - breaking up monopolies
    - reducing junk fees from banks and airlines
    - further lowering the cost of prescription drugs
    - increasing worker protections
    - strengthening unions
    - capping the rate of rental price increases
    - battling corporate profiteering

    Gee, I wonder why the rich and powerful want him to step aside... 🤔🧐

    No kidding!
    What's really baffling is why the average American (the vast majority of us) would give up those things in favor of having a megalomaniac with no clear agenda run the whole damn show.   Very odd indeed. 
    I mean have you all watched Biden at all over this 4 years? Did you watch the debate? Have you seen the interviews since?

    Y’all liberals are blind to your own issues. Always just call out “whataboutism” instead of seeing the man crumbling before your eyes. 

    Oh come on man, you too?  You're  not MAGA.  This does not merit an response, bud.  You're better than this.


    This is not some grand scheme of rich democrats wanting Joe out cause he was going to tax them. He is unfit. Everyone saw it.  And he is going to lose…and we will all suffer for it. 

    I was referring to the snarky "Y’all liberals are blind to your own issues."  
    First of all (and I've said this many times here), although I relate to people who identify as "liberal" far more than those who refer to themselves as "conservative", I don't use those terms to describe myself.  Some of my views are "liberal", some "moderate", and some are "conservative".  I base my opinions and ideas on what make the most sense to me using what I know, what I learn, critical thinking, and logic.  Simple terms like "liberal" and "conservative" just don't work for me.  I strive to be logical, sensible. 
    Secondly, what the hell are my "own issues"?  My health?  My personal finance situation?  I have no idea what you are talking about. 
    Thirdly, I have not blindly praised or excused Biden.  I've been outright critical of him at times.  Surely you're aware of that?  Well, you are now.

    And I hope you are wrong about Biden (or another Dem) losing to Trump.  Ask how my gut feels about all this.  Pretty shitty these days.  Yeah, I'm plenty aware of what's at stake.  I ONLY want Trump to lose.  I don't care how that happens.  That is priority NUMBER ONE.  And it's not my fault or anyone else's here if Trump does win.

    And look, there's just way too much personal attack bullshit happening on these threads lately.  Let's all cut it the fuck out, including me. 
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,668
    Other
    For 95% of the posters here. If you don’t agree that orange man bad, you’re wrong. If you aren’t a far left liberal, you’re MAGA.

    Elon Musk, once heralded as the greatest inventor of all time here, now Teslas suck and he’s a terrible person.

    Thats why the majority of people can’t stand liberals. That’s why centrist Democrats and Independents are abandoning them and voting for Trump. 
  • sheckyshecky Posts: 1,774

  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    shecky said:

    lol

    and they still can't spell his fucking name right

    Comperatore’s name was misspelled on his firefighter jacket, and Comperatore chose to keep it as:  Compertore 

    Probably so you can't find his trash Twitter feed


  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,262
    Joe Biden
    teskeinc said:
    For 95% of the posters here. If you don’t agree that orange man bad, you’re wrong. If you aren’t a far left liberal, you’re MAGA.

    Elon Musk, once heralded as the greatest inventor of all time here, now Teslas suck and he’s a terrible person.

    Thats why the majority of people can’t stand liberals. That’s why centrist Democrats and Independents are abandoning them and voting for Trump. 
    Ok then please enlighten me on what good qualities he possesses that would make me want to stand besides him
    like you & a couple of others here are! Because under him I’ll have to pay more on taxes I might have to change my name from Jose to Joe just so I don’t get rounded up and thrown into a camp! Tell me what policies would benefit me & my family under P25 or is it only for the white folks only? 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,262
    Joe Biden
    By the way Musk is a scumbag too! I don’t care what he has invented 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,668
    Other
    By the way Musk is a scumbag too! I don’t care what he has invented 
    You really have a lot of hate inside you bro. You’re paying way more in gas and food but that doesn’t matter? 

    Wasn’t Trump President for 4 years? I paid less taxes then. You know the shit he’s going to do and you know no one is going to tell him what to do. The Heritage thing has been proposing their nonsense since 1980. Some of the stuff he’s said he’s gonna do. Secure border, deport illegals. Drill more oil and gas. Strengthen military. You really think he’s going to end Social Security? Ban porn and divorce? C’mon.





  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,262
    Joe Biden
    teskeinc said:
    By the way Musk is a scumbag too! I don’t care what he has invented 
    You really have a lot of hate inside you bro. You’re paying way more in gas and food but that doesn’t matter? 

    Wasn’t Trump President for 4 years? I paid less taxes then. You know the shit he’s going to do and you know no one is going to tell him what to do. The Heritage thing has been proposing their nonsense since 1980. Some of the stuff he’s said he’s gonna do. Secure border, deport illegals. Drill more oil and gas. Strengthen military. You really think he’s going to end Social Security? Ban porn and divorce? C’mon.





    https://www.rawstory.com/secret-service-elon-musk-trump-ai-biden/
    Such a nice inventor ha! lol so you think he & republicans won’t try to get all that done man you’ve drank plenty of orange koolaid! I’m doing fine paying for gas & food! The tax brake he gave to the 1% did zero nada zilch to help me a middle class family! So yeah a loathe the piece of 🍊💩 you stand with..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,262
    Joe Biden
    I’m an immigrant! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,262
    Joe Biden
    teskeinc said:
    By the way Musk is a scumbag too! I don’t care what he has invented 
    You really have a lot of hate inside you bro. You’re paying way more in gas and food but that doesn’t matter? 

    Wasn’t Trump President for 4 years? I paid less taxes then. You know the shit he’s going to do and you know no one is going to tell him what to do. The Heritage thing has been proposing their nonsense since 1980. Some of the stuff he’s said he’s gonna do. Secure border, deport illegals. Drill more oil and gas. Strengthen military. You really think he’s going to end Social Security? Ban porn and divorce? C’mon.





    Here you go read this on taxes!
    https://www.benzinga.com/government/24/07/39841598/project-2025-wants-to-radically-change-us-tax-policy-would-you-pay-more-or-less-in-taxes
    Me & my family would pay more in taxes! So no thank you on voting for a MAGA idiot.
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,668
    Other
    Find some peace. Seems like you find every liberal piece of propaganda  that you can to make you angry. People are hurting under Biden’s policies. That’s why he’s losing. 



  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,262
    Joe Biden
    teskeinc said:
    Find some peace. Seems like you find every liberal piece of propaganda  that you can to make you angry. People are hurting under Biden’s policies. That’s why he’s losing. 



    lol I’m not angry! What’s wrong you can refute that tax proposal from the Heritage Foundation P25 go ahead tell us why it’s a sham? 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    teskeinc said:
    By the way Musk is a scumbag too! I don’t care what he has invented 
    You really have a lot of hate inside you bro. You’re paying way more in gas and food but that doesn’t matter? 

    Wasn’t Trump President for 4 years? I paid less taxes then. You know the shit he’s going to do and you know no one is going to tell him what to do. The Heritage thing has been proposing their nonsense since 1980. Some of the stuff he’s said he’s gonna do. Secure border, deport illegals. Drill more oil and gas. Strengthen military. You really think he’s going to end Social Security? Ban porn and divorce? C’mon.






    Money does buy happiness, just not in the way you think


  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,668
    Other
    teskeinc said:
    Find some peace. Seems like you find every liberal piece of propaganda  that you can to make you angry. People are hurting under Biden’s policies. That’s why he’s losing. 



    lol I’m not angry! What’s wrong you can refute that tax proposal from the Heritage Foundation P25 go ahead tell us why it’s a sham? 
    When did Trump say his platform was the Heritage P25 proposal? Why didn’t he do it in 2016? They’ve had their agenda since 1980, Reagan or the Bush’s never followed it.  One thing you know is no one is pushing their agenda on Trump. 


  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,668
    Other
    CM189191 said:
    teskeinc said:
    By the way Musk is a scumbag too! I don’t care what he has invented 
    You really have a lot of hate inside you bro. You’re paying way more in gas and food but that doesn’t matter? 

    Wasn’t Trump President for 4 years? I paid less taxes then. You know the shit he’s going to do and you know no one is going to tell him what to do. The Heritage thing has been proposing their nonsense since 1980. Some of the stuff he’s said he’s gonna do. Secure border, deport illegals. Drill more oil and gas. Strengthen military. You really think he’s going to end Social Security? Ban porn and divorce? C’mon.






    Money does buy happiness, just not in the way you think


    There’s a reason those countries are happier and it’s not the tax rate. I’ve been to Iceland twice, Norway and Switzerland plus most of Europe over the last 5-6 years. I’ll be in Italy and Germany next week. It’s hard to explain the difference, but if you’ve spent time there you know. It’s really a different quality of people in my opinion. 
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,262
    Joe Biden
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    Find some peace. Seems like you find every liberal piece of propaganda  that you can to make you angry. People are hurting under Biden’s policies. That’s why he’s losing. 



    lol I’m not angry! What’s wrong you can refute that tax proposal from the Heritage Foundation P25 go ahead tell us why it’s a sham? 
    When did Trump say his platform was the Heritage P25 proposal? Why didn’t he do it in 2016? They’ve had their agenda since 1980, Reagan or the Bush’s never followed it.  One thing you know is no one is pushing their agenda on Trump. 


    lol yeah ok what agenda does he have? He only caters to the rich millionaires that line his pocket 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,358
    Joe Biden
    CM189191 said:
    teskeinc said:
    By the way Musk is a scumbag too! I don’t care what he has invented 
    You really have a lot of hate inside you bro. You’re paying way more in gas and food but that doesn’t matter? 

    Wasn’t Trump President for 4 years? I paid less taxes then. You know the shit he’s going to do and you know no one is going to tell him what to do. The Heritage thing has been proposing their nonsense since 1980. Some of the stuff he’s said he’s gonna do. Secure border, deport illegals. Drill more oil and gas. Strengthen military. You really think he’s going to end Social Security? Ban porn and divorce? C’mon.






    Money does buy happiness, just not in the way you think


    I can’t imagine looking at this and being ok with some entity taking away over half of what you earn to spend how they wish…
    hippiemom = goodness
  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,715
    CM189191 said:
    teskeinc said:
    By the way Musk is a scumbag too! I don’t care what he has invented 
    You really have a lot of hate inside you bro. You’re paying way more in gas and food but that doesn’t matter? 

    Wasn’t Trump President for 4 years? I paid less taxes then. You know the shit he’s going to do and you know no one is going to tell him what to do. The Heritage thing has been proposing their nonsense since 1980. Some of the stuff he’s said he’s gonna do. Secure border, deport illegals. Drill more oil and gas. Strengthen military. You really think he’s going to end Social Security? Ban porn and divorce? C’mon.






    Money does buy happiness, just not in the way you think


    ”the best things in life aren’t things.”

    Pooh and piglet from a good life 
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