The Official 2025 Tour Rumor Thread

on2legs

Go Animal said:

on2legs said:

Weston1283 said:

JimmyV said:

I strongly suspect there weren't many U.S. shows planned for next year anyway. The Sphere would likely be a bonus, not something that prevented them from playing elsewhere. 

This^

Still holding out for a Florida, Carolinas and up to Ohio and Michigan run for next year, though 

Also hoping NY and Philly get some love next time around! 

 Gotta represent the small markets!

Amen!

HughFreakingDillon

it's been 13 years since the last *real* canadian tour. COME ON. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBDG-kBBPew

Lerxst1992

MikeDigs said:

JimmyV said:

I strongly suspect there weren't many U.S. shows planned for next year anyway. The Sphere would likely be a bonus, not something that prevented them from playing elsewhere. 

I think this is true and agree.  The Sphere would be a bonus, and also a Pearl Jam Day (Week) type concert.

Jimmy is making my point for me. A 34 show tour to promote a new album is tiny by most standards, as they are apparently not hitting the road much next year. There are only so many cards left in their touring deck. To those jumping on planes anyway to see shows, a Vegas residency is no big deal, to those hoping they get  shows in their hometown, perhaps it is. Sphere is more about practicing what you preach. We are asked to recycle, turn down the AC, turn off the lights, whatever tiny impact one individual might have, but people who impact 18,000 per day don’t have influence.

It’s hysterical the “liberal” music industry is going crazy for this place…They’re going to start building these Dolan bubbles everywhere, transforming a once local concert industry to one that involves a jet fuel. That’s impact. And the bands on stage are laughably teeny tiny, they should just use holograms and let the musicians stay home.

BF25394

Lerxst1992 said:

MikeDigs said:

JimmyV said:

I strongly suspect there weren't many U.S. shows planned for next year anyway. The Sphere would likely be a bonus, not something that prevented them from playing elsewhere. 

I think this is true and agree.  The Sphere would be a bonus, and also a Pearl Jam Day (Week) type concert.

Jimmy is making my point for me. A 34 show tour to promote a new album is tiny by most standards, as they are apparently not hitting the road much next year. There are only so many cards left in their touring deck. To those jumping on planes anyway to see shows, a Vegas residency is no big deal, to those hoping they get  shows in their hometown, perhaps it is. Sphere is more about practicing what you preach. We are asked to recycle, turn down the AC, turn off the lights, whatever tiny impact one individual might have, but people who impact 18,000 per day don’t have influence.

It’s hysterical the “liberal” music industry is going crazy for this place…They’re going to start building these Dolan bubbles everywhere, transforming a once local concert industry to one that involves a jet fuel. That’s impact. And the bands on stage are laughably teeny tiny, they should just use holograms and let the musicians stay home.

You keep making this point about jet fuel, so I'll repeat: fans who are traveling to Las Vegas to see shows at Sphere are traveling on commercial airplanes that would be flying there anyway.

pjl44

There are 45,000 flights per day in the US. The only way Sphere is contributing to higher ocean levels is if we roll it in.

drfox

HughFreakingDillon said:

it's been 13 years since the last *real* canadian tour. COME ON. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBDG-kBBPew

Can’t see that happening anytime soon. Same in the U.K. - yes we get 2 shows each time but it’s not a standard 6-10 date UK tour like other bands do. Our last standard tour was in 2000. They haven’t played Wales and Scotland or Birmingham etc since then 

Williston

marumaruko said:

Little bit of southern east coast in the US, St. Louis, Nashville, Oklahoma,United Center in Chicago for the midwest, Camden, an extended Canada tour (Winnipeg, Toronto, Quebec/Montreal, Halifx perhaps?), South America (Santiago, Buenos Aires, Sao Paulo) and Europe (Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Oslo, Stockholm, Vienna, Paris, Milano, Roma, Cologne/Hamburg, ?Munich?) would be my guess

For midwest i would rather have Milwaukee over Chicago. We got UC in 2023, Wrigley in 24, i think it’s Wisconsin’s turn.

Williston

Lerxst1992 said:

schaefferlax said:

They wouldn't buy a giant new screen for this tour if they were going to go to the Sphere anytime soon. Please just do an east coast tour and call it a day

Nah they’d rather not maximize their revenue 

Incredible Ed needed to ask audience who traveled to show, talk about a self fulfilling prophecy. They’ve played a limited tour schedule for a decade, play the same places over and over, only have heard of four east coast cities, their most popular region, and now think since fans since traveled to a festival, maybe it justifies expecting everyone to get on a plane into the desert, truck in food and supplies, burn tons of carbon, if they want to see a show. 

Developing video for the sphere is extremely expensive and specialized and to do it right like D&C did, and it requires a lot of shows to cover the overhead (phish was not cost effective, and DC videos were significantly better than phish and u2). 

It’s one thing if they toured alot over the years like phish and DC, but they’ve repeatedly skipped so many places, and have created a ticketing nightmare for their largest throng of their fans. Do they like posting tickets for only $400 - $2000? 

 Most seats at sphere are on a very steep slope and are a mile from the stage , which is tiny for most fans. Cool video yes, but is that what a concert is about? Why do they even need the band to show up at the sphere if it’s about futuristic video? It’s more like going to the planetarium or riding Epcot Soarin than a rock concert.

As much as how cool the screen is at The Sphere, saw U2 there twice and Dead there the day between LV shows, i think the thing that most impressed me about The Sphere was THE SOUND. 

Would love to see PJ play there just off that alone.

Williston

YAKIMATSU said:

Imagine the variety.  They could have generic visuals and play anything in the catalog.  Obviously get Alive and probably EF and DTE, but everything else would be on the table every night.  It would be a non-album tour.  People will travel for the 3 show weekends from everywhere and the regular Vegas crowd will fill the Sphere.  I would prefer a real tour, I think, but this seems easier for them.
The only REAL issue I see with a Sphere residency is Merch.  How does that work?  Would that be just the same for every show?  I fuck hope not.  We all appreciate OUR show merch specific items.

So far EVERY Dead & Co. show at The Sphere has had a different Show specific poster and shirt. They hired a different artist for every show. I imagine PJ would do the same.

Williston

schaefferlax said:

Might be in the minority here but a PJ stint in the sphere would be super lame IMO... I go to PJ shows for the music, not so much the visuals I saw clips from the dead and co concerts and it looked corny as hell. We get it, you're a psychedelic rock band.

Seen U2 there twice and Dead & Co. once, and as cool as the screen is, the thing that impressed me more than anything is The Sound. I would see a PJ Sphere show just for the sound experience alone.

Williston

BloodMeridian80 said:

If they do 5 or 10 show Sphere, will they put a limit on number of nights one member can win through lottery?

100%. I’m assuming 1 show will be max. Anything more you would have to go thru that Ticketmaster madness.

Zod

Williston said:

schaefferlax said:

Might be in the minority here but a PJ stint in the sphere would be super lame IMO... I go to PJ shows for the music, not so much the visuals I saw clips from the dead and co concerts and it looked corny as hell. We get it, you're a psychedelic rock band.

Seen U2 there twice and Dead & Co. once, and as cool as the screen is, the thing that impressed me more than anything is The Sound. I would see a PJ Sphere show just for the sound experience alone.

Yah, the sound for U2 was the best i'd ever heard at a live concert.   There's something to be said for a venue that was made for live music.  It was so crystal clear and amazing.   I googled it after, there's something like thousands and thousands of speakers built behind the screens that create the sound.  So much better than Arena's where they bring in giant speaker stacks to venues designed for sports.

The stage setup itself was one of the simplest I'd ever seen, because the stage was a replica of a record player, with the instruments, and 4 light stands around it, and that was it.  Everything else is built into the venue.   It's a damn technological marvel

BF25394

Zod said:

Williston said:

schaefferlax said:

Might be in the minority here but a PJ stint in the sphere would be super lame IMO... I go to PJ shows for the music, not so much the visuals I saw clips from the dead and co concerts and it looked corny as hell. We get it, you're a psychedelic rock band.

Seen U2 there twice and Dead & Co. once, and as cool as the screen is, the thing that impressed me more than anything is The Sound. I would see a PJ Sphere show just for the sound experience alone.

Yah, the sound for U2 was the best i'd ever heard at a live concert.   There's something to be said for a venue that was made for live music.  It was so crystal clear and amazing.   I googled it after, there's something like thousands and thousands of speakers built behind the screens that create the sound.  So much better than Arena's where they bring in giant speaker stacks to venues designed for sports.

The stage setup itself was one of the simplest I'd ever seen, because the stage was a replica of a record player, with the instruments, and 4 light stands around it, and that was it.  Everything else is built into the venue.   It's a damn technological marvel

A friend and fellow Ten Club member who puts on live events at a theater in L.A. has been to the "mini-Sphere" in Burbank, which is basically a staging facility where they program and test out things for the Vegas Sphere, said that the sound is optimized to a fare thee well, and directed with incredible precision. They could make it so that, in one seat, you hear only the guitar, and in the next seat over, you hear only the drums. He said the demonstrations they did for him of the system's capability completely blew his mind.

Having said that, I hope they don't play there. 

100 Pacer

We can write off September 20 through October 19 for the Sphere:

BF25394

100 Pacer said:

We can write off September 20 through October 19 for the Sphere:

This was meant to be. Eagles, a band with no article, plays Sphere, a venue with no article.

Lerxst1992

BF25394 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

MikeDigs said:

JimmyV said:

I strongly suspect there weren't many U.S. shows planned for next year anyway. The Sphere would likely be a bonus, not something that prevented them from playing elsewhere. 

I think this is true and agree.  The Sphere would be a bonus, and also a Pearl Jam Day (Week) type concert.

Jimmy is making my point for me. A 34 show tour to promote a new album is tiny by most standards, as they are apparently not hitting the road much next year. There are only so many cards left in their touring deck. To those jumping on planes anyway to see shows, a Vegas residency is no big deal, to those hoping they get  shows in their hometown, perhaps it is. Sphere is more about practicing what you preach. We are asked to recycle, turn down the AC, turn off the lights, whatever tiny impact one individual might have, but people who impact 18,000 per day don’t have influence.

It’s hysterical the “liberal” music industry is going crazy for this place…They’re going to start building these Dolan bubbles everywhere, transforming a once local concert industry to one that involves a jet fuel. That’s impact. And the bands on stage are laughably teeny tiny, they should just use holograms and let the musicians stay home.

You keep making this point about jet fuel, so I'll repeat: fans who are traveling to Las Vegas to see shows at Sphere are traveling on commercial airplanes that would be flying there anyway.

So the 600,000 d and c fans traveling to LV this year does not burn significant fuel?

Cmon, let’s stop with the loyalist fan comments and talk common sense. The sphere literally turns a local event (many by train into the local city)  into a transcontinental flight for hundreds of thousands. It’s an inescapable fact this would be the single biggest impact an artist can have on the climate in their lives. The fact is, this burns a ton of fuel. So airlines putting weight limits on luggage is just for fun?

 Plus the cost of everything consumed needs to be transported into a desert. Perhaps there is a reason landlocked deserts are not typically tourist destinations. Also, more customers means fewer flights?

mikesbri

HailHailVitalogy said:

I hope they don’t do the Sphere. 

Bogota x2
Santiago x2
Buenos Aires x2

São Paulo x2
Mexico City x2
———————
Toronto x2
Cleveland x2
Atlanta x2
Miami x2
Houston x2

I'd love to see some South American shows but id find it hard for them to charge todays ticket prices in those countries. Flying to those countries isnt cheap either, but still wishing for some Bogota shows.

MikeDigs

A large portion of this thread is discussion about the Sphere.  If we do get some Sphere shows, I think that will be cool, since it will be a reason to visit Vegas, plus the idea of album shows each night is really intriguing to me.  Sign me up for the No Code show.

But for 2025 what I REALLY want, what YOU really want, is Pearl Jam Week 2025.
Location up in the air, but the important thing is that it would be 3-4 shows in one week.
The setlists would be expansive, including fan favorites, deep cuts, rare gems, and possibly new songs.

Weston1283

MikeDigs said:

A large portion of this thread is discussion about the Sphere.  If we do get some Sphere shows, I think that will be cool, since it will be a reason to visit Vegas, plus the idea of album shows each night is really intriguing to me.  Sign me up for the No Code show.

But for 2025 what I REALLY want, what YOU really want, is Pearl Jam Week 2025.
Location up in the air, but the important thing is that it would be 4-5 shows in one week.
The setlists would be expansive, including fan favorites, deep cuts, rare gems, and possibly new songs.

I would love this to become a yearly thing.  If you're going to play shorter sets, less variety, and fewer cities, then give us just one thing that we can look forward to as the diehard fans. 

100 Pacer

MikeDigs said:

A large portion of this thread is discussion about the Sphere.  If we do get some Sphere shows, I think that will be cool, since it will be a reason to visit Vegas, plus the idea of album shows each night is really intriguing to me.  Sign me up for the No Code show.

But for 2025 what I REALLY want, what YOU really want, is Pearl Jam Week 2025.
Location up in the air, but the important thing is that it would be 4-5 shows in one week.
The setlists would be expansive, including fan favorites, deep cuts, rare gems, and possibly new songs.

You’re not getting 4-5 shows per week.

BF25394

Lerxst1992 said:

BF25394 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

MikeDigs said:

JimmyV said:

I strongly suspect there weren't many U.S. shows planned for next year anyway. The Sphere would likely be a bonus, not something that prevented them from playing elsewhere. 

I think this is true and agree.  The Sphere would be a bonus, and also a Pearl Jam Day (Week) type concert.

Jimmy is making my point for me. A 34 show tour to promote a new album is tiny by most standards, as they are apparently not hitting the road much next year. There are only so many cards left in their touring deck. To those jumping on planes anyway to see shows, a Vegas residency is no big deal, to those hoping they get  shows in their hometown, perhaps it is. Sphere is more about practicing what you preach. We are asked to recycle, turn down the AC, turn off the lights, whatever tiny impact one individual might have, but people who impact 18,000 per day don’t have influence.

It’s hysterical the “liberal” music industry is going crazy for this place…They’re going to start building these Dolan bubbles everywhere, transforming a once local concert industry to one that involves a jet fuel. That’s impact. And the bands on stage are laughably teeny tiny, they should just use holograms and let the musicians stay home.

You keep making this point about jet fuel, so I'll repeat: fans who are traveling to Las Vegas to see shows at Sphere are traveling on commercial airplanes that would be flying there anyway.

So the 600,000 d and c fans traveling to LV this year does not burn significant fuel?

Cmon, let’s stop with the loyalist fan comments and talk common sense. The sphere literally turns a local event (many by train into the local city)  into a transcontinental flight for hundreds of thousands. It’s an inescapable fact this would be the single biggest impact an artist can have on the climate in their lives. The fact is, this burns a ton of fuel. So airlines putting weight limits on luggage is just for fun?

 Plus the cost of everything consumed needs to be transported into a desert. Perhaps there is a reason landlocked deserts are not typically tourist destinations. Also, more customers means fewer flights?

You're still missing the point, which is a common-sense point: they're not burning fuel that wouldn't otherwise be burned anyway. The flights to Las Vegas that people book to see Dead & Company or U2 or Theoretical Pearl Jam are not new flights being added to accommodate them. They are already-scheduled flights that would be taking off regardless of whether these people are on them. There are more than 1,000 commercial flights in and out of Vegas every day. They don't need to add flights to accommodate these music fans. Do you think that someone at Southwest or Delta takes the schedule for Sphere into account when they lay out the flight schedule, something that is done many months in advance?

Las Vegas is a metropolitan area with over 2 million people. It exists. You seem to be fighting against reality. Landlocked deserts are not typically tourist destinations? Well, this one is and has been for many decades. You can't wish it out of existence, and whether Pearl Jam or any other act plays Sphere is not going to cause the city to be packed up and moved elsewhere.

"Loyalist fan comments"? I don't even want them to play Sphere. I'm just pointing out that your ecological arguments against it don't make sense.

MikeDigs

100 Pacer said:

MikeDigs said:

A large portion of this thread is discussion about the Sphere.  If we do get some Sphere shows, I think that will be cool, since it will be a reason to visit Vegas, plus the idea of album shows each night is really intriguing to me.  Sign me up for the No Code show.

But for 2025 what I REALLY want, what YOU really want, is Pearl Jam Week 2025.
Location up in the air, but the important thing is that it would be 3-4 shows in one week.
The setlists would be expansive, including fan favorites, deep cuts, rare gems, and possibly new songs.

You’re not getting 4-5 shows per week.

Good point, thanks for bringing my expectations in check.  I updated my post to say 3-4, where even 3 shows would be fantastic, and 4 a bonus.

100 Pacer

MikeDigs said:

100 Pacer said:

MikeDigs said:

A large portion of this thread is discussion about the Sphere.  If we do get some Sphere shows, I think that will be cool, since it will be a reason to visit Vegas, plus the idea of album shows each night is really intriguing to me.  Sign me up for the No Code show.

But for 2025 what I REALLY want, what YOU really want, is Pearl Jam Week 2025.
Location up in the air, but the important thing is that it would be 3-4 shows in one week.
The setlists would be expansive, including fan favorites, deep cuts, rare gems, and possibly new songs.

You’re not getting 4-5 shows per week.

Good point, thanks for bringing my expectations in check.  I updated my post to say 3-4, where even 3 shows would be fantastic, and 4 a bonus.

I actually think the day off between shows has worked out nicely for band and fans alike. I’d go so far as to state Matt’s drumming was harder hitting during this year’s tour than last.

pjl44

100 Pacer said:

MikeDigs said:

A large portion of this thread is discussion about the Sphere.  If we do get some Sphere shows, I think that will be cool, since it will be a reason to visit Vegas, plus the idea of album shows each night is really intriguing to me.  Sign me up for the No Code show.

But for 2025 what I REALLY want, what YOU really want, is Pearl Jam Week 2025.
Location up in the air, but the important thing is that it would be 4-5 shows in one week.
The setlists would be expansive, including fan favorites, deep cuts, rare gems, and possibly new songs.

You’re not getting 4-5 shows per week.

I think there's a difference between 4-5 shows in A week vs. 4-5 shows PER week

100 Pacer

pjl44 said:

100 Pacer said:

MikeDigs said:

A large portion of this thread is discussion about the Sphere.  If we do get some Sphere shows, I think that will be cool, since it will be a reason to visit Vegas, plus the idea of album shows each night is really intriguing to me.  Sign me up for the No Code show.

But for 2025 what I REALLY want, what YOU really want, is Pearl Jam Week 2025.
Location up in the air, but the important thing is that it would be 4-5 shows in one week.
The setlists would be expansive, including fan favorites, deep cuts, rare gems, and possibly new songs.

You’re not getting 4-5 shows per week.

I think there's a difference between 4-5 shows in A week vs. 4-5 shows PER week

True but neither scenario is happening.

schaefferlax

If PJ does stint at the Sphere I think they are officially phoning it in. 

pjl44

100 Pacer said:

pjl44 said:

100 Pacer said:

MikeDigs said:

A large portion of this thread is discussion about the Sphere.  If we do get some Sphere shows, I think that will be cool, since it will be a reason to visit Vegas, plus the idea of album shows each night is really intriguing to me.  Sign me up for the No Code show.

But for 2025 what I REALLY want, what YOU really want, is Pearl Jam Week 2025.
Location up in the air, but the important thing is that it would be 4-5 shows in one week.
The setlists would be expansive, including fan favorites, deep cuts, rare gems, and possibly new songs.

You’re not getting 4-5 shows per week.

I think there's a difference between 4-5 shows in A week vs. 4-5 shows PER week

True but neither scenario is happening.

Safe bet. Other than Sphere, of course.

pjl44

schaefferlax said:

If PJ does stint at the Sphere I think they are officially phoning it in. 

Why is that phoning it in? 

HughFreakingDillon

COME TO WINNIPEG YOU BASTARDS. 

BF25394

schaefferlax said:

If PJ does stint at the Sphere I think they are officially phoning it in. 

Your use of the word "officially" here suggests that you think that there's some real probability that they are currently, unofficially "phoning it in." Is that what you think?