I'm going to listen to Leash now to cleanse my ears and restore balance.
Lol. I can't get over it. I've listened to it probably 10 times today trying to figure out what people are liking. Nope, still terrible. This is pop rock for the dentist office, not the Pearl Jam I love. It's totally bland and boring. They've been sprinkling in this stuff since backspacer, and im fearing they did more than sprinkle with the new album. I thought the first half of gigaton was a return to form, and was hopeful they still had some creative juice left...we'll see what Friday brings, but if this isnt the clear cut worst song on the album, I don't think I'm going to be into it.
Guys: Vs. isn't coming back. That was over 30 years ago. This is ... kind of what 60-year-old rock bands sound like? I would be so embarrassed if they were still trying to write Blood 2 or something. I'm glad they've softened with age. Most of us do.
Oh god...this again. This seems to he the default reaction that anyone who doesnt like new material gets from the unofficial gatekeepers. Just because I think the song sucks, doesn't mean I think they should be regurgitating music like they did in the 90s. I'm all for artistic revolution and growth. I just dont think Pearl Jam has been very successful in their attempts to reinvent themselves. I still love them though.
I'm also a big fan of radiohead/thom Yorke and Wilco...two artists who also came up in a similar Era as Pj, and both of whom I think are still recording brilliant and inspiring music. This pop version of Pearl Jam is just falling flat to me.
Definitely different. Over 4-5 listens today I am really liking it. Excited to see how it fits in the album and catalog as a whole. Also wondering where this fits in a live show. Might be too early for this high praise but feels like it could be the first song of an encore?
I'm going to listen to Leash now to cleanse my ears and restore balance.
Lol. I can't get over it. I've listened to it probably 10 times today trying to figure out what people are liking. Nope, still terrible. This is pop rock for the dentist office, not the Pearl Jam I love. It's totally bland and boring. They've been sprinkling in this stuff since backspacer, and im fearing they did more than sprinkle with the new album. I thought the first half of gigaton was a return to form, and was hopeful they still had some creative juice left...we'll see what Friday brings, but if this isnt the clear cut worst song on the album, I don't think I'm going to be into it.
Guys: Vs. isn't coming back. That was over 30 years ago. This is ... kind of what 60-year-old rock bands sound like? I would be so embarrassed if they were still trying to write Blood 2 or something. I'm glad they've softened with age. Most of us do.
Oh god...this again. This seems to he the default reaction that anyone who doesnt like new material gets from the unofficial gatekeepers. Just because I think the song sucks, doesn't mean I think they should be regurgitating music like they did in the 90s. I'm all for artistic revolution and growth. I just dont think Pearl Jam has been very successful in their attempts to reinvent themselves. I still love them though.
I'm also a big fan of radiohead/thom Yorke and Wilco...two artists who also came up in a similar Era as Pj, and both of whom I think are still recording brilliant and inspiring music. This pop version of Pearl Jam is just falling flat to me.
You should have said this the first time. You like your music complicated. I get it. I used to be this way.
Me, I don't necessarily need to be impressed by my favorite bands anymore. Just moved. A song doesn't have to be complicated to do that to me. Three chords and the truth works, too.
No you don't get it. But you are full of assumptions to validate your defensiveness over someone else's opinion of someone else's art for some reason.
I don't mean any offense on this, because I get it, and not everyone is going to like everything and that is ok. But I think it's probably because you continue to offer your opinion that the song sucks. And to the level in which it sucks.
Which is fine, too, but just expect some blowback from people who are genuinely moved by the song.
Usually when I love something, I tend to gush over it. When I dislike something, I tend to just not say anything, or give my opinion and move on from it. "This one doesn't hit me."
That's a good point, and im going to lay off of it. I may have gotten a litrle carried away....I just love the band like everyone else on here, so when they put something out that I think is a dud...its extra disappointing to me.
I was just starting to warm up to dark matter and running. This one, I don't think I'll ever warm up to as it's just not aligned with my taste in any way. Like Sirens cousin or something.
I'm going to listen to Leash now to cleanse my ears and restore balance.
Lol. I can't get over it. I've listened to it probably 10 times today trying to figure out what people are liking. Nope, still terrible. This is pop rock for the dentist office, not the Pearl Jam I love. It's totally bland and boring. They've been sprinkling in this stuff since backspacer, and im fearing they did more than sprinkle with the new album. I thought the first half of gigaton was a return to form, and was hopeful they still had some creative juice left...we'll see what Friday brings, but if this isnt the clear cut worst song on the album, I don't think I'm going to be into it.
Guys: Vs. isn't coming back. That was over 30 years ago. This is ... kind of what 60-year-old rock bands sound like? I would be so embarrassed if they were still trying to write Blood 2 or something. I'm glad they've softened with age. Most of us do.
Oh god...this again. This seems to he the default reaction that anyone who doesnt like new material gets from the unofficial gatekeepers. Just because I think the song sucks, doesn't mean I think they should be regurgitating music like they did in the 90s. I'm all for artistic revolution and growth. I just dont think Pearl Jam has been very successful in their attempts to reinvent themselves. I still love them though.
I'm also a big fan of radiohead/thom Yorke and Wilco...two artists who also came up in a similar Era as Pj, and both of whom I think are still recording brilliant and inspiring music. This pop version of Pearl Jam is just falling flat to me.
You should have said this the first time. You like your music complicated. I get it. I used to be this way.
Me, I don't necessarily need to be impressed by my favorite bands anymore. Just moved. A song doesn't have to be complicated to do that to me. Three chords and the truth works, too.
No you don't get it. But you are full of assumptions to validate your defensiveness over someone else's opinion of someone else's art for some reason.
I don't mean any offense on this, because I get it, and not everyone is going to like everything and that is ok. But I think it's probably because you continue to offer your opinion that the song sucks. And to the level in which it sucks.
Which is fine, too, but just expect some blowback from people who are genuinely moved by the song.
Usually when I love something, I tend to gush over it. When I dislike something, I tend to just not say anything, or give my opinion and move on from it. "This one doesn't hit me."
That's a good point, and im going to lay off of it. I may have gotten a litrle carried away....I just love the band like everyone else on here, so when they put something out that I think is a dud...its extra disappointing to me.
I was just starting to warm up to dark matter and running. This one, I don't think I'll ever warm up to as it's just not aligned with my taste in any way. Like Sirens cousin or something.
I hear you. I am not a fan of Sirens at all. I like the lyrics, just not the sound. But that said, there is a lot to like on the album and chances are, you'll come away with something, prob a few you can cling to.
I was worried when people compared this to Petty. I can understand that, but I don't hear or associate this with Petty at all. I like the song and think it's a good tune. This album is going to be accessible to casual listeners. Some upbeat tempos that have a real summer day vibe. I literally thought of listening to this song with the windows down on a hot summer day last night when I first heard it. Just a flowing groove throughout that builds.
This is the most I’ve liked a PJ song this much at first listen since something off Backspacer. Not that says much since a lot seem to not like that album, but I did. Point is I think Wreckage is better than anything off LB or Gigaton. Shaping up to be a fantastic album it seems like. Maybe I’m just caught up in the hype
I can’t stop hearing Fast Car in it. Must be similar chords. Especially in the beginning.
I don’t think we’re that lucky. That’s one of the greatest songs ever made.
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I hear hammer on pull off Hard to Imagine vibes in the beginning.
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I listened to it on youtube via my TV and home stereo the first time around and thought it was ok, enjoying it a lot more the 2nd time around on my computer with headphones. I think I chose amazon music this time which has better audio quality.
I also don’t get the hate on the production and drum sound? Watt made Wreckage sound like a classic track that I would have believed was lost 25 years ago. Maybe I’m ignorant to that stuff or maybe it’s a case of arm chair producer syndrome? The drums sound natural and clean imo
I can’t stop hearing Fast Car in it. Must be similar chords. Especially in the beginning.
I completely hear that as well.
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The guitar lick has a sped up Fast Car vibe but the chorus has defo that mixed with Learning To Fly for me.
Those dyad solos with Ed singing over them are just gorgeous. I'm glad they kept the end going for a couple of bars. I felt Retrograde could have too just to have Ed go completely nuts both in studio and live. You close your eyes and can totally see both songs being dragged out to epic proportions.
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I can totally hear a part of Corduroy in the bridge section. Just for a small section it's almost identical.
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I get both sides of the argument here. I can totally hear this at the dentist office between a U2 and Coldplay song. It is interesting that some people don't hear the Petty vibes in the final stretches of the song. I find that one to be super obvious. As for me, I like the song. It is not among my favorites on the album but I can dig it.
I get both sides of the argument here. I can totally hear this at the dentist office between a U2 and Coldplay song. It is interesting that some people don't hear the Petty vibes in the final stretches of the song. I find that one to be super obvious. As for me, I like the song. It is not among my favorites on the album but I can dig it.
I didn’t think Petty at first. But it did remind me a lot of Long Way and I instantly thought Petty on that one.
My only complaint with it is the outro is 2 minutes long, nearly half the song. Now that I’m thinking it, I felt the same with Long Way too.
Beautiful lyrics and vocal. Real tearjerker if you connect to the emotion of it. Eddie’s imagery and down to earthness around loss and destruction is what pulls you in. And then, yea there’s some Cure and Petty nods instrumentally, which is all righteous. Fuckin’ a.
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The key to this song is that it’s lyrically tied to Setting Sun.
And was there a lyric connection between Scared of Fear and Setting Sun? I’ve only had the two listens but when I saw the lyrics in the theatre I vaguely remember a link there too? Sorry I digress.
The key to this song is that it’s lyrically tied to Setting Sun.
And was there a lyric connection between Scared of Fear and Setting Sun? I’ve only had the two listens but when I saw the lyrics in the theatre I vaguely remember a link there too? Sorry I digress.
Yes, SoF drops a setting sun line in the lyrics. Noticed that at the movie theatre too.
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I was just starting to warm up to dark matter and running. This one, I don't think I'll ever warm up to as it's just not aligned with my taste in any way. Like Sirens cousin or something.
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love that song.. lol.
The guitar lick has a sped up Fast Car vibe but the chorus has defo that mixed with Learning To Fly for me.
Those dyad solos with Ed singing over them are just gorgeous. I'm glad they kept the end going for a couple of bars. I felt Retrograde could have too just to have Ed go completely nuts both in studio and live. You close your eyes and can totally see both songs being dragged out to epic proportions.
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