Waiting for Stevie is the one song so many of us are dying to hear. I’ve never heard so many different reviews/journalists/fans/Stone hype it up as a total callback to early stuff
its amazing...and the solo..it has the same feeling like u head Breath solo
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Waiting for Stevie is the one song so many of us are dying to hear. I’ve never heard so many different reviews/journalists/fans/Stone hype it up as a total callback to early stuff
its amazing...and the solo..it has the same feeling like u head Breath solo
I have Wreckage towards the bottom end of my list at the moment. Now, that’s after just two listens and mainly because I love all of the others so much too. Hey, something has to be towards the bottom if you rank them. I’m sure this will change over time.
This albums 7 o clock. Beautiful music with Word Salad on top.
The music is fantastic but the lyrics / vocals are the weak link here. Nothing catchy that you can sing, no angst, no passion. Just kind of there. Probably would be better as an instrumental.
Can't really see this one being great live. Like 7 o clock it will just exist.
If you listen to 7 o'clock and Wreckage and think there's "no passion" "no angst" or no emotion, then idk what you're listening. There's definitely anger + sadness in Eddie's voice in both songs. It's just channeled and expressed differently. It's just a different style. If you don't like it, that's fine, but would be wrong to say there's no emotion to it.
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This albums 7 o clock. Beautiful music with Word Salad on top.
The music is fantastic but the lyrics / vocals are the weak link here. Nothing catchy that you can sing, no angst, no passion. Just kind of there. Probably would be better as an instrumental.
Can't really see this one being great live. Like 7 o clock it will just exist.
If you listen to 7 o'clock and Wreckage and think there's "no passion" "no angst" or no emotion, then idk what you're listening. There's definitely anger + sadness in Eddie's voice in both songs. It's just channeled and expressed differently. It's just a different style. If you don't like it, that's fine, but would be wrong to say there's no emotion to it.
The first two singles were quite aggressive musically. Did people not expect something a little different for the next thing? Jeez.
I dont think anyone is hating on it for not being agressive...they're hating on it because they don't like the song. Simple as that.
People are calling it "adult contemporary" (like a song from Kiss 100 or something) so yes definitely hating on it for not being aggressive. Anyway I found the themes to be fairly heavy, even if the tempo/instrumentation isn't so much. Only two listens and I want to just wait for the album now. Which I expect to be as richly diverse as all the rest of this amazing band's work.
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Just listened for the first time. I hope I like it more within the context of the album. I’m just not into adult contemporary PJ.
Not a fan of "Off He Goes"? "Wishlist"? "I Am Mine"? "Elderly Woman Behind the Counter in a Small Town"? "Black"? "Better Man"?
Every one of these tracks is an absolute banger. Wreckage has vibes, sonically, like that song that goes "shut up and dance with me" very pop rock. ugh. Not sure how this got created. I'm a Pearl Jam mega fan too, and and I don't see how a mega fan produced this.
I play Off He Goes on repeat many times. Such a stellar track
Just listened for the first time. I hope I like it more within the context of the album. I’m just not into adult contemporary PJ.
Not a fan of "Off He Goes"? "Wishlist"? "I Am Mine"? "Elderly Woman Behind the Counter in a Small Town"? "Black"? "Better Man"?
Every one of these tracks is an absolute banger. Wreckage has vibes, sonically, like that song that goes "shut up and dance with me" ugh. Not sure how this got created. I'm a Pearl Jam mega fan too, and and I don't see how a mega fan produced this.
I play Off He Goes on repeat many times. Such a stellar track
So much Earthings in this! Loved Earthlings stuff and Watt produced this too so not unexpected.
This was my thought as well. Earthlings grew on me after many listens and I can see Wreckage being the same. I do know that this song will be the new song my wife is excited to hear live this summer.
Just listened for the first time. I hope I like it more within the context of the album. I’m just not into adult contemporary PJ.
Not a fan of "Off He Goes"? "Wishlist"? "I Am Mine"? "Elderly Woman Behind the Counter in a Small Town"? "Black"? "Better Man"?
Every one of these tracks is an absolute banger. Wreckage has vibes, sonically, like that song that goes "shut up and dance with me" ugh. Not sure how this got created. I'm a Pearl Jam mega fan too, and and I don't see how a mega fan produced this.
I play Off He Goes on repeat many times. Such a stellar track
Just listened for the first time. I hope I like it more within the context of the album. I’m just not into adult contemporary PJ.
Not a fan of "Off He Goes"? "Wishlist"? "I Am Mine"? "Elderly Woman Behind the Counter in a Small Town"? "Black"? "Better Man"?
Every one of these tracks is an absolute banger. Wreckage has vibes, sonically, like that song that goes "shut up and dance with me" very pop rock. ugh. Not sure how this got created. I'm a Pearl Jam mega fan too, and and I don't see how a mega fan produced this.
I play Off He Goes on repeat many times. Such a stellar track
The point is that these are songs that can fairly be described as "adult contemporary." If you think those songs are "bangers," but find other midtempo latter-day Pearl Jam songs to be underwhelming, I think it says more about the fact that you are not the same person in 2024 that you were in 1994 or 2004 than it does about the quality of Pearl Jam's music. (To be clear, that's not a knock on you. None of us in the same place emotionally or in our lives as we were thirty years ago.)
The first two singles were quite aggressive musically. Did people not expect something a little different for the next thing? Jeez.
I dont think anyone is hating on it for not being agressive...they're hating on it because they don't like the song. Simple as that.
People are calling it "adult contemporary" (like a song from Kiss 100 or something) so yes definitely hating on it for not being aggressive. Anyway I found the themes to be fairly heavy, even if the tempo/instrumentation isn't so much. Only two listens and I want to just wait for the album now. Which I expect to be as richly diverse as all the rest of this amazing band's work.
Not familiar with kiss 100...but in the context of your gripe, I'd probably agree. This song reminds me of Mandy Moore's recent music with Eddie Vedder on vocals. I would know because my wife listens to her.
The first two singles were quite aggressive musically. Did people not expect something a little different for the next thing? Jeez.
I dont think anyone is hating on it for not being agressive...they're hating on it because they don't like the song. Simple as that.
People are calling it "adult contemporary" (like a song from Kiss 100 or something) so yes definitely hating on it for not being aggressive. Anyway I found the themes to be fairly heavy, even if the tempo/instrumentation isn't so much. Only two listens and I want to just wait for the album now. Which I expect to be as richly diverse as all the rest of this amazing band's work.
Not familiar with kiss 100...but in the context of your gripe, I'd probably agree. This song reminds me of Mandy Moore's recent music with Eddie Vedder on vocals. I would know because my wife listens to her.
Just listened for the first time. I hope I like it more within the context of the album. I’m just not into adult contemporary PJ.
Not a fan of "Off He Goes"? "Wishlist"? "I Am Mine"? "Elderly Woman Behind the Counter in a Small Town"? "Black"? "Better Man"?
Every one of these tracks is an absolute banger. Wreckage has vibes, sonically, like that song that goes "shut up and dance with me" very pop rock. ugh. Not sure how this got created. I'm a Pearl Jam mega fan too, and and I don't see how a mega fan produced this.
I play Off He Goes on repeat many times. Such a stellar track
The point is that these are songs that can fairly be described as "adult contemporary." If you think those songs are "bangers," but find other midtempo latter-day Pearl Jam songs to be underwhelming, I think it says more about the fact that you are not the same person in 2024 that you were in 1994 or 2004 than it does about the quality of Pearl Jam's music. (To be clear, that's not a knock on you. None of us in the same place emotionally or in our lives as we were thirty years ago.)
I actually just took the plunge in to No Code this past January, as for some reason over the years I had never jumped in to it. And wow, I absolutely adore No Code, what a gem of an album. Front to back. And Off He Goes stands out and I really love it.
For Wreckage, I think it's the vocal melodies and general style of music through the verse and chorus. There is one bridge that I like, and the outro is cool tho.
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I'm going to listen to Leash now to cleanse my ears and restore balance.
Lol. I can't get over it. I've listened to it probably 10 times today trying to figure out what people are liking. Nope, still terrible. This is pop rock for the dentist office, not the Pearl Jam I love. It's totally bland and boring. They've been sprinkling in this stuff since backspacer, and im fearing they did more than sprinkle with the new album. I thought the first half of gigaton was a return to form, and was hopeful they still had some creative juice left...we'll see what Friday brings, but if this isnt the clear cut worst song on the album, I don't think I'm going to be into it.
Guys: Vs. isn't coming back. That was over 30 years ago. This is ... kind of what 60-year-old rock bands sound like? I would be so embarrassed if they were still trying to write Blood 2 or something. I'm glad they've softened with age. Most of us do.
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Lol. I can't get over it. I've listened to it probably 10 times today trying to figure out what people are liking. Nope, still terrible. This is pop rock for the dentist office, not the Pearl Jam I love. It's totally bland and boring. They've been sprinkling in this stuff since backspacer, and im fearing they did more than sprinkle with the new album. I thought the first half of gigaton was a return to form, and was hopeful they still had some creative juice left...we'll see what Friday brings, but if this isnt the clear cut worst song on the album, I don't think I'm going to be into it.
Guys: Vs. isn't coming back. That was over 30 years ago. This is ... kind of what 60-year-old rock bands sound like? I would be so embarrassed if they were still trying to write Blood 2 or something. I'm glad they've softened with age. Most of us do.
Oh god...this again. This seems to he the default reaction that anyone who doesnt like new material gets from the unofficial gatekeepers. Just because I think the song sucks, doesn't mean I think they should be regurgitating music like they did in the 90s. I'm all for artistic revolution and growth. I just dont think Pearl Jam has been very successful in their attempts to reinvent themselves. I still love them though.
I'm also a big fan of radiohead/thom Yorke and Wilco...two artists who also came up in a similar Era as Pj, and both of whom I think are still recording brilliant and inspiring music. This pop version of Pearl Jam is just falling flat to me.
I'm going to listen to Leash now to cleanse my ears and restore balance.
Lol. I can't get over it. I've listened to it probably 10 times today trying to figure out what people are liking. Nope, still terrible. This is pop rock for the dentist office, not the Pearl Jam I love. It's totally bland and boring. They've been sprinkling in this stuff since backspacer, and im fearing they did more than sprinkle with the new album. I thought the first half of gigaton was a return to form, and was hopeful they still had some creative juice left...we'll see what Friday brings, but if this isnt the clear cut worst song on the album, I don't think I'm going to be into it.
Guys: Vs. isn't coming back. That was over 30 years ago. This is ... kind of what 60-year-old rock bands sound like? I would be so embarrassed if they were still trying to write Blood 2 or something. I'm glad they've softened with age. Most of us do.
Oh god...this again. This seems to he the default reaction that anyone who doesnt like new material gets from the unofficial gatekeepers. Just because I think the song sucks, doesn't mean I think they should be regurgitating music like they did in the 90s. I'm all for artistic revolution and growth. I just dont think Pearl Jam has been very successful in their attempts to reinvent themselves. I still love them though.
I'm also a big fan of radiohead/thom Yorke and Wilco...two artists who also came up in a similar Era as Pj, and both of whom I think are still recording brilliant and inspiring music. This pop version of Pearl Jam is just falling flat to me.
This is really interesting. My holy trinity of bands are, in order, Pearl Jam, Wilco and Radiohead. I've seen Pearl Jam 70 times. I've seen Wilco 52 times, and Jeff Tweedy almost 100 times (including from the front row four times in five nights just this past week). My first Wilco show was in June 1995. I was a fan when there were very few fans. I attended many sparsely attended Wilco shows in the '90s. So I say this with as much Wilco literacy as a person can have: the three albums released from 2015 to 2019, Star Wars, Schmilco and Ode to Joy are the clear low point in the Wilco catalog. Thankfully, Cruel Country and Cousin reversed the trend. And as much as I love Radiohead, they have released two albums since 2007 and, while those two albums are underappreciated, they are also not at the level of the albums from The Bends through In Rainbows.
So, mileage varies.
EDIT: I just noticed you said "Thom Yorke/Radiohead," so you may be referring to his solo work and/or The Smile here, although I still don't think any of that holds a candle to Radiohead's output from 1995 through 2007.
I'm going to listen to Leash now to cleanse my ears and restore balance.
Lol. I can't get over it. I've listened to it probably 10 times today trying to figure out what people are liking. Nope, still terrible. This is pop rock for the dentist office, not the Pearl Jam I love. It's totally bland and boring. They've been sprinkling in this stuff since backspacer, and im fearing they did more than sprinkle with the new album. I thought the first half of gigaton was a return to form, and was hopeful they still had some creative juice left...we'll see what Friday brings, but if this isnt the clear cut worst song on the album, I don't think I'm going to be into it.
Guys: Vs. isn't coming back. That was over 30 years ago. This is ... kind of what 60-year-old rock bands sound like? I would be so embarrassed if they were still trying to write Blood 2 or something. I'm glad they've softened with age. Most of us do.
Oh god...this again. This seems to he the default reaction that anyone who doesnt like new material gets from the unofficial gatekeepers. Just because I think the song sucks, doesn't mean I think they should be regurgitating music like they did in the 90s. I'm all for artistic revolution and growth. I just dont think Pearl Jam has been very successful in their attempts to reinvent themselves. I still love them though.
I'm also a big fan of radiohead/thom Yorke and Wilco...two artists who also came up in a similar Era as Pj, and both of whom I think are still recording brilliant and inspiring music. This pop version of Pearl Jam is just falling flat to me.
You should have said this the first time. You like your music complicated. I get it. I used to be this way.
Me, I don't necessarily need to be impressed by my favorite bands anymore. Just moved. A song doesn't have to be complicated to do that to me. Three chords and the truth works, too.
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I'm going to listen to Leash now to cleanse my ears and restore balance.
Lol. I can't get over it. I've listened to it probably 10 times today trying to figure out what people are liking. Nope, still terrible. This is pop rock for the dentist office, not the Pearl Jam I love. It's totally bland and boring. They've been sprinkling in this stuff since backspacer, and im fearing they did more than sprinkle with the new album. I thought the first half of gigaton was a return to form, and was hopeful they still had some creative juice left...we'll see what Friday brings, but if this isnt the clear cut worst song on the album, I don't think I'm going to be into it.
Guys: Vs. isn't coming back. That was over 30 years ago. This is ... kind of what 60-year-old rock bands sound like? I would be so embarrassed if they were still trying to write Blood 2 or something. I'm glad they've softened with age. Most of us do.
Oh god...this again. This seems to he the default reaction that anyone who doesnt like new material gets from the unofficial gatekeepers. Just because I think the song sucks, doesn't mean I think they should be regurgitating music like they did in the 90s. I'm all for artistic revolution and growth. I just dont think Pearl Jam has been very successful in their attempts to reinvent themselves. I still love them though.
I'm also a big fan of radiohead/thom Yorke and Wilco...two artists who also came up in a similar Era as Pj, and both of whom I think are still recording brilliant and inspiring music. This pop version of Pearl Jam is just falling flat to me.
You should have said this the first time. You like your music complicated. I get it. I used to be this way.
Me, I don't necessarily need to be impressed by my favorite bands anymore. Just moved. A song doesn't have to be complicated to do that to me. Three chords and the truth works, too.
No you don't get it. But you are full of assumptions to validate your defensiveness over someone else's opinion of someone else's art for some reason.
I'm going to listen to Leash now to cleanse my ears and restore balance.
Lol. I can't get over it. I've listened to it probably 10 times today trying to figure out what people are liking. Nope, still terrible. This is pop rock for the dentist office, not the Pearl Jam I love. It's totally bland and boring. They've been sprinkling in this stuff since backspacer, and im fearing they did more than sprinkle with the new album. I thought the first half of gigaton was a return to form, and was hopeful they still had some creative juice left...we'll see what Friday brings, but if this isnt the clear cut worst song on the album, I don't think I'm going to be into it.
Guys: Vs. isn't coming back. That was over 30 years ago. This is ... kind of what 60-year-old rock bands sound like? I would be so embarrassed if they were still trying to write Blood 2 or something. I'm glad they've softened with age. Most of us do.
Oh god...this again. This seems to he the default reaction that anyone who doesnt like new material gets from the unofficial gatekeepers. Just because I think the song sucks, doesn't mean I think they should be regurgitating music like they did in the 90s. I'm all for artistic revolution and growth. I just dont think Pearl Jam has been very successful in their attempts to reinvent themselves. I still love them though.
I'm also a big fan of radiohead/thom Yorke and Wilco...two artists who also came up in a similar Era as Pj, and both of whom I think are still recording brilliant and inspiring music. This pop version of Pearl Jam is just falling flat to me.
I'm going to listen to Leash now to cleanse my ears and restore balance.
Lol. I can't get over it. I've listened to it probably 10 times today trying to figure out what people are liking. Nope, still terrible. This is pop rock for the dentist office, not the Pearl Jam I love. It's totally bland and boring. They've been sprinkling in this stuff since backspacer, and im fearing they did more than sprinkle with the new album. I thought the first half of gigaton was a return to form, and was hopeful they still had some creative juice left...we'll see what Friday brings, but if this isnt the clear cut worst song on the album, I don't think I'm going to be into it.
Guys: Vs. isn't coming back. That was over 30 years ago. This is ... kind of what 60-year-old rock bands sound like? I would be so embarrassed if they were still trying to write Blood 2 or something. I'm glad they've softened with age. Most of us do.
Oh god...this again. This seems to he the default reaction that anyone who doesnt like new material gets from the unofficial gatekeepers. Just because I think the song sucks, doesn't mean I think they should be regurgitating music like they did in the 90s. I'm all for artistic revolution and growth. I just dont think Pearl Jam has been very successful in their attempts to reinvent themselves. I still love them though.
I'm also a big fan of radiohead/thom Yorke and Wilco...two artists who also came up in a similar Era as Pj, and both of whom I think are still recording brilliant and inspiring music. This pop version of Pearl Jam is just falling flat to me.
You should have said this the first time. You like your music complicated. I get it. I used to be this way.
Me, I don't necessarily need to be impressed by my favorite bands anymore. Just moved. A song doesn't have to be complicated to do that to me. Three chords and the truth works, too.
No you don't get it. But you are full of assumptions to validate your defensiveness over someone else's opinion of someone else's art for some reason.
I don't mean any offense on this, because I get it, and not everyone is going to like everything and that is ok. But I think it's probably because you continue to offer your opinion that the song sucks. And to the level in which it sucks.
Which is fine, too, but just expect some blowback from people who are genuinely moved by the song.
Usually when I love something, I tend to gush over it. When I dislike something, I tend to just not say anything, or give my opinion and move on from it. "This one doesn't hit me."
Just listened for the first time. I hope I like it more within the context of the album. I’m just not into adult contemporary PJ.
Not a fan of "Off He Goes"? "Wishlist"? "I Am Mine"? "Elderly Woman Behind the Counter in a Small Town"? "Black"? "Better Man"?
To be fair, this sounds nothing like any of those. Those are all singable. This word salad is not.
You either don't know what the idiom "word salad" means or you don't understand what the song is about. Like the song or not, but to act as if the lyrics aren't perfectly clear is odd and inaccurate. There's nothing confusing about it.
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I play Off He Goes on repeat many times. Such a stellar track
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For Wreckage, I think it's the vocal melodies and general style of music through the verse and chorus. There is one bridge that I like, and the outro is cool tho.
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I'm also a big fan of radiohead/thom Yorke and Wilco...two artists who also came up in a similar Era as Pj, and both of whom I think are still recording brilliant and inspiring music. This pop version of Pearl Jam is just falling flat to me.
So, mileage varies.
EDIT: I just noticed you said "Thom Yorke/Radiohead," so you may be referring to his solo work and/or The Smile here, although I still don't think any of that holds a candle to Radiohead's output from 1995 through 2007.
Me, I don't necessarily need to be impressed by my favorite bands anymore. Just moved. A song doesn't have to be complicated to do that to me. Three chords and the truth works, too.
for the least they could possibly do
Which is fine, too, but just expect some blowback from people who are genuinely moved by the song.
Usually when I love something, I tend to gush over it. When I dislike something, I tend to just not say anything, or give my opinion and move on from it.
"This one doesn't hit me."
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