I’ll complain. Once again some people get tickets to multiple shows and others get nothing. I have not gotten a ticket through 10 club since 2018. Insane.
Prioritization is missed. Really helped spread it around. It's rough when you see one person go 0 for 4 and another 7 for 8. Particularly when you strike out on your local show and some jetsetter racks up their 6th GA.
It's weird that five sixtyish year old men believe that ranking a priority of shows is too difficult for fans to understand, and removing priority will reward some unfairly and shut out many.
Once again, seems there are some people hitting 80% and some hitting 10%
It almost sounds random...
I'm gonna complain about EV supercharged elitists removing the 3/24 show draw statistics from chuks comment , which is roughly 10%, then making jokes that its random! I don't get it bc ranking priority is too difficult of a concept for me.
Once again, seems there are some people hitting 80% and some hitting 10%
It almost sounds random...
I'm gonna complain about EV supercharged elitists removing the 3/24 show draw statistics from chuks comment , which is roughly 10%, then making jokes that its random! I don't get it bc ranking priority is too difficult of a concept for me.
"EV supercharged elitists"? What the hell does that even mean?
I also don't understand your substantive criticism. He said some hit 80 percent and some hit 10 percent. That was all that needed to be quoted. Why would it be necessary to include the breakdown of the ten-percent example in my reply?
I liked when you could see what your odds of getting tickets were
I loved that...
Especially since 75% of the people here at the time wouldn't pay attention and would still make their 4 choices....
1. GA NYC 1 2. GA NYC 2 3. GA PHILLY 1 4. GA PHILLY 2
Leaving them with nothing.
This is why the priority ended. These people couldn’t grasp why they didn’t get tickets. When we had priority I always picked the less popular shows and I always got tickets. In 30 years in 10c and 70 shows I’ve never been to NY or Philly.
Priority needs to come back and if you can’t read directions or follow rules you don’t get tickets.
It would also help if people who don't live in the New York or Philadelphia areas could break free of the mistaken notion that shows in those cities are inherently better than shows in other cities, and stop flocking to those shows from other parts of the country and world. (I say this is as someone who has seen them eight times at MSG, three times at Jones Beach, twice at Randall's Island and once each in Newark and at the Nassau Coliseum. Some of those shows were standouts, and some were "ordinary." Meanwhile, I've seen standout shows in "random" cities like Phoenix and San Diego (less random, given the band's ties there).)
TicketMaster could limit fans to winning just one of each show in a given city, as they did with MSG last lottery. No reason they couldn't have done that for at least Hollywood, as it's a tiny venue, but really, they could do it for every mulit-show city, or even limit shows to some percentage of the tour. 10-show leg? You can win 5 max.
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It would also help if people who don't live in the New York or Philadelphia areas could break free of the mistaken notion that shows in those cities are inherently better than shows in other cities, and stop flocking to those shows from other parts of the country and world. (I say this is as someone who has seen them eight times at MSG, three times at Jones Beach, twice at Randall's Island and once each in Newark and at the Nassau Coliseum. Some of those shows were standouts, and some were "ordinary." Meanwhile, I've seen standout shows in "random" cities like Phoenix and San Diego (less random, given the band's ties there).)
I am 6 hours train ride away from NYC and it’s my “local” show. I’m not choosing it for the vibes, it is literally the closest they come to me.
The bigger picture issue is that at 5 cities/year most of us have to go 6 hours for our local shows, above and beyond the multi-show travelers. The only “system” that will fix the problems is a larger tour. And I don’t think they’re interested in doing that.
I'm complaining because people are complaining in non-complaining threads.
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It would also help if people who don't live in the New York or Philadelphia areas could break free of the mistaken notion that shows in those cities are inherently better than shows in other cities, and stop flocking to those shows from other parts of the country and world. (I say this is as someone who has seen them eight times at MSG, three times at Jones Beach, twice at Randall's Island and once each in Newark and at the Nassau Coliseum. Some of those shows were standouts, and some were "ordinary." Meanwhile, I've seen standout shows in "random" cities like Phoenix and San Diego (less random, given the band's ties there).)
I am 6 hours train ride away from NYC and it’s my “local” show. I’m not choosing it for the vibes, it is literally the closest they come to me.
The bigger picture issue is that at 5 cities/year most of us have to go 6 hours for our local shows, above and beyond the multi-show travelers. The only “system” that will fix the problems is a larger tour. And I don’t think they’re interested in doing that.
I think bringing priority back would help, but I agree the smaller tours are part of the problem. Fewer shows means greater demand.
It would also help if people who don't live in the New York or Philadelphia areas could break free of the mistaken notion that shows in those cities are inherently better than shows in other cities, and stop flocking to those shows from other parts of the country and world. (I say this is as someone who has seen them eight times at MSG, three times at Jones Beach, twice at Randall's Island and once each in Newark and at the Nassau Coliseum. Some of those shows were standouts, and some were "ordinary." Meanwhile, I've seen standout shows in "random" cities like Phoenix and San Diego (less random, given the band's ties there).)
I am 6 hours train ride away from NYC and it’s my “local” show. I’m not choosing it for the vibes, it is literally the closest they come to me.
The bigger picture issue is that at 5 cities/year most of us have to go 6 hours for our local shows, above and beyond the multi-show travelers. The only “system” that will fix the problems is a larger tour. And I don’t think they’re interested in doing that.
I think bringing priority back would help, but I agree the smaller tours are part of the problem. Fewer shows means greater demand.
I don't think people struck out nearly this much on the 2023 run that was also 5 cities and places the band hadn't hit in many years? I get that Dark Matter was successful, but I find it hard to believe that it would be that much of an uptick.
It would also help if people who don't live in the New York or Philadelphia areas could break free of the mistaken notion that shows in those cities are inherently better than shows in other cities, and stop flocking to those shows from other parts of the country and world. (I say this is as someone who has seen them eight times at MSG, three times at Jones Beach, twice at Randall's Island and once each in Newark and at the Nassau Coliseum. Some of those shows were standouts, and some were "ordinary." Meanwhile, I've seen standout shows in "random" cities like Phoenix and San Diego (less random, given the band's ties there).)
I am 6 hours train ride away from NYC and it’s my “local” show. I’m not choosing it for the vibes, it is literally the closest they come to me.
The bigger picture issue is that at 5 cities/year most of us have to go 6 hours for our local shows, above and beyond the multi-show travelers. The only “system” that will fix the problems is a larger tour. And I don’t think they’re interested in doing that.
I think bringing priority back would help, but I agree the smaller tours are part of the problem. Fewer shows means greater demand.
I don't think people struck out nearly this much on the 2023 run that was also 5 cities and places the band hadn't hit in many years? I get that Dark Matter was successful, but I find it hard to believe that it would be that much of an uptick.
I don't have the numbers for everyone, but I was successful with Indy and Chicago. If I recall, Indy was a difficult one to get, but that was my first choice for priority ranking. I also wonder whether there was any post covid effect on the number of entries. There were still people not only with concerns about covid, but concerns with the band canceling.
It would also help if people who don't live in the New York or Philadelphia areas could break free of the mistaken notion that shows in those cities are inherently better than shows in other cities, and stop flocking to those shows from other parts of the country and world. (I say this is as someone who has seen them eight times at MSG, three times at Jones Beach, twice at Randall's Island and once each in Newark and at the Nassau Coliseum. Some of those shows were standouts, and some were "ordinary." Meanwhile, I've seen standout shows in "random" cities like Phoenix and San Diego (less random, given the band's ties there).)
I am 6 hours train ride away from NYC and it’s my “local” show. I’m not choosing it for the vibes, it is literally the closest they come to me.
The bigger picture issue is that at 5 cities/year most of us have to go 6 hours for our local shows, above and beyond the multi-show travelers. The only “system” that will fix the problems is a larger tour. And I don’t think they’re interested in doing that.
I'm not talking about people for whom it's their local show. I'm talking about people who fly in from all over the country and world.
Do people really felt any entertainment value with their current stage set up... Did we really need to see them play evolution in front of their music video...
I don't care much for their live theatrics, and to be honest could go on without that huge ass screen if it meant the rear seats would be open.
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Do people really felt any entertainment value with their current stage set up... Did we really need to see them play evolution in front of their music video...
I don't care much for their live theatrics, and to be honest could go on without that huge ass screen if it meant the rear seats would be open.
Does nothing for me. Would prefer them sell to the back and bring prices down a bit with it.
Do people really felt any entertainment value with their current stage set up... Did we really need to see them play evolution in front of their music video...
I don't care much for their live theatrics, and to be honest could go on without that huge ass screen if it meant the rear seats would be open.
My main complaint with the screen is that it makes the setlists more predictable e.g. DTE every night. But it's still awesome every time
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Once again, seems there are some people hitting 80% and some hitting 10%
It almost sounds random...
I'm gonna complain about EV supercharged elitists removing the 3/24 show draw statistics from chuks comment , which is roughly 10%, then making jokes that its random! I don't get it bc ranking priority is too difficult of a concept for me.
"EV supercharged elitists"? What the hell does that even mean?
I also don't understand your substantive criticism. He said some hit 80 percent and some hit 10 percent. That was all that needed to be quoted. Why would it be necessary to include the breakdown of the ten-percent example in my reply?
I could have been wrong but I thought you were throwing a little bit of shade at the 10% estimate. The list of shows they provided it was pretty close to 10%.[ EV stands for electric vehicle ]
Once again, seems there are some people hitting 80% and some hitting 10%
It almost sounds random...
I'm gonna complain about EV supercharged elitists removing the 3/24 show draw statistics from chuks comment , which is roughly 10%, then making jokes that its random! I don't get it bc ranking priority is too difficult of a concept for me.
"EV supercharged elitists"? What the hell does that even mean?
I also don't understand your substantive criticism. He said some hit 80 percent and some hit 10 percent. That was all that needed to be quoted. Why would it be necessary to include the breakdown of the ten-percent example in my reply?
I could have been wrong but I thought you were throwing a little bit of shade at the 10% estimate. The list of shows they provided it was pretty close to 10%.[ EV stands for electric vehicle ]
No, I was taking his numbers at face value.
I still don't understand the "EV supercharged elitists" comment, whether you meant Eddie Vedder or electric vehicle.
Do people really felt any entertainment value with their current stage set up... Did we really need to see them play evolution in front of their music video...
I don't care much for their live theatrics, and to be honest could go on without that huge ass screen if it meant the rear seats would be open.
I totally agree that they should go back to basics. I liked it better when they (the band) was the focus and it could bring costs down without all the theatrics
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Do people really felt any entertainment value with their current stage set up... Did we really need to see them play evolution in front of their music video...
I don't care much for their live theatrics, and to be honest could go on without that huge ass screen if it meant the rear seats would be open.
Not to mention if you are a drummer, the rear seats are awesome!!😎 🥁
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It's weird that five sixtyish year old men believe that ranking a priority of shows is too difficult for fans to understand, and removing priority will reward some unfairly and shut out many.
I also don't understand your substantive criticism. He said some hit 80 percent and some hit 10 percent. That was all that needed to be quoted. Why would it be necessary to include the breakdown of the ten-percent example in my reply?
Especially since 75% of the people here at the time wouldn't pay attention and would still make their 4 choices....
1. GA NYC 1
2. GA NYC 2
3. GA PHILLY 1
4. GA PHILLY 2
Leaving them with nothing.
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
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I don't care much for their live theatrics, and to be honest could go on without that huge ass screen if it meant the rear seats would be open.
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Fenway 9/15/2024
I could have been wrong but I thought you were throwing a little bit of shade at the 10% estimate. The list of shows they provided it was pretty close to 10%.[ EV stands for electric vehicle ]
I still don't understand the "EV supercharged elitists" comment, whether you meant Eddie Vedder or electric vehicle.
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Who are these people that pay $900 for a seat where you need binoculars??!!
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