With respect to the comment about listening "properly on vinyl," I am just curious about whether that person is one of the relatively few people who, like me, purchased every Pearl Jam title on vinyl upon its release from Vitalogy through Vault 10 (although, in my case, it wasn't because I think the listening experience is better on vinyl; I bought Vitalogy on vinyl because it meant I could hear it two weeks early, and then I liked having the artwork and liner notes in a larger size), or whether they are a latter-day convert to the cult of vinyl, because the reality is that the vast majority of Pearl Jam fans (and music fans in general) were not buying vinyl records from roughly 1990 through 2010, and yet somehow they were experiencing and enjoying music. Ten wasn't even released on vinyl in the U.S. in 1991, and there was no outcry from the millions of fans who embraced it in the first two years of its release. How do I know that relatively few people were buying Pearl Jam LPs during that time? Because I can see what Lost Dogs and Vault 3 sell for on Discogs. Those astronomical prices are due to scarcity, a scarcity which doesn't exist for titles like MTV Unplugged, which came out in 2019 after vinyl had proliferated. (Over 25,000 people have MTV Unplugged in their collections on Discogs; about 1,500 have Lost Dogs.)
It is definitely not an example of great customer service. Like I said, they should have had a better plan for dealing with this. Maybe they should have hired a temp to help get these orders out the door if it was going to be too much for Santos and whomever else he may have helping him (Santa's Little Helper's helper?).
Regarding "listening properly on vinyl" - vinyl listening is an experience, and my personal preference. Like most of you here, I'm just a middle-aged dude who likes what he likes, and yes, have been one of the early PJ loyalists who started buying vinyl with the release of VItalogy. Any gripe about getting the vinyl late is due to being bummed that you cannot enjoy that "experience" of pouring through the art, lyrics, etc. It's a missed opportunity, timed with the rare release of new tunes - I think that's what makes everyone sour about this situation. And I think that's fair. I'll personally offer my services to PJ for the next record - I'll manage the logistics plan for the release, they just need to ensure I get the first copy as compensation.
With respect to the comment about listening "properly on vinyl," I am just curious about whether that person is one of the relatively few people who, like me, purchased every Pearl Jam title on vinyl upon its release from Vitalogy through Vault 10 (although, in my case, it wasn't because I think the listening experience is better on vinyl; I bought Vitalogy on vinyl because it meant I could hear it two weeks early, and then I liked having the artwork and liner notes in a larger size), or whether they are a latter-day convert to the cult of vinyl, because the reality is that the vast majority of Pearl Jam fans (and music fans in general) were not buying vinyl records from roughly 1990 through 2010, and yet somehow they were experiencing and enjoying music. Ten wasn't even released on vinyl in the U.S. in 1991, and there was no outcry from the millions of fans who embraced it in the first two years of its release. How do I know that relatively few people were buying Pearl Jam LPs during that time? Because I can see what Lost Dogs and Vault 3 sell for on Discogs. Those astronomical prices are due to scarcity, a scarcity which doesn't exist for titles like MTV Unplugged, which came out in 2019 after vinyl had proliferated. (Over 25,000 people have MTV Unplugged in their collections on Discogs; about 1,500 have Lost Dogs.)
It is definitely not an example of great customer service. Like I said, they should have had a better plan for dealing with this. Maybe they should have hired a temp to help get these orders out the door if it was going to be too much for Santos and whomever else he may have helping him (Santa's Little Helper's helper?).
Regarding "listening properly on vinyl" - vinyl listening is an experience, and my personal preference. Like most of you here, I'm just a middle-aged dude who likes what he likes, and yes, have been one of the early PJ loyalists who started buying vinyl with the release of VItalogy. Any gripe about getting the vinyl late is due to being bummed that you cannot enjoy that "experience" of pouring through the art, lyrics, etc. It's a missed opportunity, timed with the rare release of new tunes - I think that's what makes everyone sour about this situation. And I think that's fair. I'll personally offer my services to PJ for the next record - I'll manage the logistics plan for the release, they just need to ensure I get the first copy as compensation.
The CD also has the artwork and lyrics, for what it's worth.
I have consistently said that this was poorly done and that it is reasonable for people to be annoyed, so we're not in disagreement on that.
I have also bought everything Pearl Jam released on vinyl from Vitalogy through Vault 10 (and went back and got Vs. and Ten), though not primarily for listening. The CD will always be my preferred format for several reasons, including sound, portability and continuity. Anyway, to each their own. My preference is not better than your preference. But I'm wondering what you did with every other album you bought during that roughly twenty-year period when most albums were not being issued on vinyl. Did you not enjoy music during this period because you couldn't listen to it "properly"?
I bought through tenclub. Originally my date said Tuesday and I thought...well....that's close enough... Just checked my tracking. It now says Friday. Exactly one week after release. So that's pretty lame.
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Has anybody in Europe, who pre-ordered the 10C vinyl variant, had any news about the shipping? Mine still says "order information received" since the 3rd of April
Same here.
And same here. I've asked 10C for an update. They said all preorders have shipped and we'll receive shipping confirmation when the order has been scanned.
Same here, no entry in Order Information, because i payed with applepay. An no shipping email, same answer from 10c.
Received mine only a day after the estimated delivery date. Not bad for the 10c
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After mine didn't arrive yesterday it now says Friday for delivery. Weak!
Where are you in FL? Mine arrived in Jacksonville yesterday
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1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest 2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1 2022: Nashville 2023: Ft. Worth II
what sold to us - what i would call blood red with black swirls
what was received - maroon - obviously not red - sadly i didn't land the whiz Khalifa variant at least i could have flipped it.
That's the "right" color. It's just different than the mock up. Good luck getting a refund. In the item description, it states the actual product may slightly differ than the mockup.
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what sold to us - what i would call blood red with black swirls
what was received - maroon - obviously not red - sadly i didn't land the whiz Khalifa variant at least i could have flipped it.
That's the "right" color. It's just different than the mock up. Good luck getting a refund. In the item description, it states the actual product may slightly differ than the mockup.
slightly is not the same as word completely different color. what they pictured was beautiful anything close to that would have worked. While a deep maroon is hideous.
what sold to us - what i would call blood red with black swirls
what was received - maroon - obviously not red - sadly i didn't land the whiz Khalifa variant at least i could have flipped it.
That's the "right" color. It's just different than the mock up. Good luck getting a refund. In the item description, it states the actual product may slightly differ than the mockup.
slightly is not the same as word completely different color. what they pictured was beautiful anything close to that would have worked. While a deep maroon is hideous.
Admittedly in the same camp upset about the coloring, but not bothering to buy another variant. Should’ve gone with my gut and get the RSD version as it would’ve been in hand 5 days earlier
what sold to us - what i would call blood red with black swirls
what was received - maroon - obviously not red - sadly i didn't land the whiz Khalifa variant at least i could have flipped it.
That's the "right" color. It's just different than the mock up. Good luck getting a refund. In the item description, it states the actual product may slightly differ than the mockup.
slightly is not the same as word completely different color. what they pictured was beautiful anything close to that would have worked. While a deep maroon is hideous.
I really agree with this so much. It’s also a slap in the face for anyone to come on here and be like “iT’s tRaNsLuCeNt” and tell us to shine a light through it as if vinyl records were made to be placed in a light box and not played on a turntable.
I just want them to address and admit their mistake: that no one in the ten club looked at sample pressings or saw the actual products we were being sold, and they cut corners and went based off of provided stock photographs provided by their manufacturer. The selection they made for the ten club vinyl color looks awful in comparison to the later announced variants , but they won’t admit it or take any accountability now since they already have had our money for multiple months.
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I'll personally offer my services to PJ for the next record - I'll manage the logistics plan for the release, they just need to ensure I get the first copy as compensation.
I have consistently said that this was poorly done and that it is reasonable for people to be annoyed, so we're not in disagreement on that.
I have also bought everything Pearl Jam released on vinyl from Vitalogy through Vault 10 (and went back and got Vs. and Ten), though not primarily for listening. The CD will always be my preferred format for several reasons, including sound, portability and continuity. Anyway, to each their own. My preference is not better than your preference. But I'm wondering what you did with every other album you bought during that roughly twenty-year period when most albums were not being issued on vinyl. Did you not enjoy music during this period because you couldn't listen to it "properly"?
Same here, no entry in Order Information, because i payed with applepay. An no shipping email, same answer from 10c.
1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
2022: Nashville
2023: Ft. Worth II
1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
2022: Nashville
2023: Ft. Worth II
what sold to us - what i would call blood red with black swirls
what was received - maroon - obviously not red - sadly i didn't land the whiz Khalifa variant at least i could have flipped it.
Noblesville, May 7, 2010
PJ20 Night 1, 2011
Cincinnati, Oct. 1, 2014
Milwaukee, Oct. 20, 2014
Wrigley Field, Aug 20, 2016
Wrigley Field, Aug 22, 2016
Wrigley Field, Aug 18, 2018
Wrigley Field, Aug 20, 2018
St. Louis, Sept. 18, 2022
Chicago, Sept. 5, 2023
Chicago, Sept. 7, 2023
So that means another few weeks before it gets to the UK 🙄
2022: Berlin, Budapest, Krakow, Amsterdam II
Me too just now.
I just want them to address and admit their mistake: that no one in the ten club looked at sample pressings or saw the actual products we were being sold, and they cut corners and went based off of provided stock photographs provided by their manufacturer. The selection they made for the ten club vinyl color looks awful in comparison to the later announced variants , but they won’t admit it or take any accountability now since they already have had our money for multiple months.