I wasn’t really trying but my confidence has gotten low with the bots. Pulled an aisle in 215 row 4 for Bmore while I was watching my son play NCAA. I will most likely sell but will check with my group first. As Hail has said, singles seem to work better.
I was refreshing for about 20 minutes until a few minutes before 8pm local, didn’t see those at all must’ve been right after I stopped
For posterity
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
I wasn’t really trying but my confidence has gotten low with the bots. Pulled an aisle in 215 row 4 for Bmore while I was watching my son play NCAA. I will most likely sell but will check with my group first. As Hail has said, singles seem to work better.
GGs duder! Get that mojo back!
1995: New Orleans, LA 2006: Washington, D.C. 2008: Washington, D.C. 2010: Bristow, VA 2013: Baltimore, MD 2016: Hampton, VA 2020: Baltimore, MD 2023: Noblesville, IN TBD 2024: Seattle, WA N1 and N2
This is never not annoying & feels like a super waste of time...
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
Pair of lawns for Noblesville going up. Edit: They'll go up as soon as Ticketmaster allows me. I've listed before, so I'm not sure why I'm getting the error this time around.
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1998: Barrie 2000: Toronto 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Toronto 2006: Toronto 1&2, Paris, Milan, Torino, Pistoia 2009: Calgary, Vancouver 2011: Canada 2013: London, Wrigley, Philly 1&2 2014: St. Louis, ACL 1, Detroit 2016: Lexington, Quebec, Ottawa, Toronto 1&2, Fenway 1&2, Wrigley 1&2 2017: EV - Louisville 2018: London1&2, Milan, Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 1&2, Fenway 1&2 2020: Toronto, Ottawa, Hamilton2021: London 1&22022: Hamilton, Toronto 2023: Chicago 1&2, Noblesville2024: Seattle 1&2, Noblesville, Wrigley 1&2
And honestly, when I finally get my tix. I kind of miss the chase.
I know me too got my pair for N2 wrigley sec 11 and told myself OK I don't need to do this anymore these are good enough, but I keep coming back.
Kansas City 1998 /\ Kansas City 2000 /\ Kansas City 2003 /\ St. Louis 2014 Ohana Encore N1 & N2 2021 /\ St. Louis 2022 /\ OKC 2022 /\ Chicago N1 & N2 2023 Chicago N1 & N2 2024
And honestly, when I finally get my tix. I kind of miss the chase.
I know me too got my pair for N2 wrigley sec 11 and told myself OK I don't need to do this anymore these are good enough, but I keep coming back.
Rail or bust!
My wife is not that dedicated. She would rather bust or get decent seats in Sec 6 N1 & 11 N2 she doesn't want anything to do with GA, we got enough of that at Ohana. The rail at Wrigley would be magically (closest I got was OKC 2022 about 4 rows back and STL 2014 about 3 rows back (funny only 2 shows I went to without my wife). For Wrigley I would suspect you would need to get there on early Aug 28th and line up for N1 and just stay there after the show for N2.
Kansas City 1998 /\ Kansas City 2000 /\ Kansas City 2003 /\ St. Louis 2014 Ohana Encore N1 & N2 2021 /\ St. Louis 2022 /\ OKC 2022 /\ Chicago N1 & N2 2023 Chicago N1 & N2 2024
FLD N seat in the bag and F2F is like a drug until you get GA.
Soldier Field 7-11-95, Alpine Valley 6-26-98, United Center 6-29-98, Riverport Amphitheater (St. Louis)7-2-98, MGM Grand Arena 10-22-00, Sprint Center (Kansas City)5-3-10, Adams Event Center (Missoula)9-30-12, Wrigley Field 7-19-13, Jobing.com Arena (Phoenix)11-19-13, Moda Center (Portland)11-29-13, Spokane Arena 11-30-13, Pepsi Center (Denver)10-22-14, Gila River Arena (Phoenix)5-9-22, Moody Center (Austin)9-18-23, Moody Center 9-19-23, Rogers Arena (Vancouver)5-4-24, Rogers Arena 5-6-24, MGM Grand 5-16-24, MGM Grand 5-18-24, Wrigley Field 8-29-24, Wrigley Field 8-31-24
Sec 12 row6 Wrigley both nights for 150 ea gone now. Strange price?
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Kansas City 1998 /\ Kansas City 2000 /\ Kansas City 2003 /\ St. Louis 2014 Ohana Encore N1 & N2 2021 /\ St. Louis 2022 /\ OKC 2022 /\ Chicago N1 & N2 2023 Chicago N1 & N2 2024
Sec 12 row6 Wrigley both nights for 150 ea gone now. Strange price?
I thought the same thing. Must have been a glitch. I had them in my cart and like always it gave me an error when processing the transaction. Getting frustrated with F2F. I have had so many good seats actually in my cart only to get an error when processing.
I assume to compete for F2F, it hurts not to have the fastest internet available to you. I have the fastest AT&T available to me and have been successful getting tix through my WiFi.
I assume to compete for F2F, it hurts not to have the fastest internet available to you. I have the fastest AT&T available to me and have been successful getting tix through my WiFi.
My WiFi is only 50 mps and I’m using an iPhone 11, I’m sure that has cost me a better chance at tickets. Use PayPal to pay, the checkout is a lot faster if you have preapproved your login
I know this may be beating a dead horse, but the frequency of errors and carting within TM seemingly indicates the Bot issue. An established pattern exists. This is clear evidence in my mind that this Bot/AI does exist and is instantly setup to purchase tickets selling at Face Value, only to appear later on stubhub. Here are the facts:
-On 7/29 at 2:49pm, 5 listings existed for MSG N2 within Section 120 on StubHub. No tickets available were showing Row 22. -On 7/29, a pair of tickets for MSG N2, Section 120, Row 22 went up for sale on TM reseller exchange. They were gone instantly. -On 7/30 as of 2:29pm, 6 listings exists for MSG N2 within Section 120 on StubHub. The additional inventory that appears is a pair of tickets, seated together within Row 22.
Screenshots below. You may have to zoom your browser to see the screenshot.
I know this may be beating a dead horse, but the frequency of errors and carting within TM seemingly indicates the Bot issue. An established pattern exists. This is clear evidence in my mind that this Bot/AI does exist and is instantly setup to purchase tickets selling at Face Value, only to appear later on stubhub. Here are the facts:
-On 7/29 at 2:49pm, 5 listings existed for MSG N2 within Section 120 on StubHub. No tickets available were showing Row 22. -On 7/29, a pair of tickets for MSG N2, Section 120, Row 22 went up for sale on TM reseller exchange. They were gone instantly. -On 7/30 as of 2:29pm, 6 listings exists for MSG N2 within Section 120 on StubHub. The additional inventory that appears is a pair of tickets, seated together within Row 22.
Screenshots below. You may have to zoom your browser to see the screenshot.
Yes, we've seen many similar examples. However, that doesn't necessarily mean it was a bot. Since MSG is freely transferable, anyone could buy them and relist on stubhub.
I know this may be beating a dead horse, but the frequency of errors and carting within TM seemingly indicates the Bot issue. An established pattern exists. This is clear evidence in my mind that this Bot/AI does exist and is instantly setup to purchase tickets selling at Face Value, only to appear later on stubhub. Here are the facts:
-On 7/29 at 2:49pm, 5 listings existed for MSG N2 within Section 120 on StubHub. No tickets available were showing Row 22. -On 7/29, a pair of tickets for MSG N2, Section 120, Row 22 went up for sale on TM reseller exchange. They were gone instantly. -On 7/30 as of 2:29pm, 6 listings exists for MSG N2 within Section 120 on StubHub. The additional inventory that appears is a pair of tickets, seated together within Row 22.
Screenshots below. You may have to zoom your browser to see the screenshot.
Yes, we've seen many similar examples. However, that doesn't necessarily mean it was a bot. Since MSG is freely transferable, anyone could buy them and relist on stubhub.
Correct. It doesn't mean it's a Bot that effected this transaction and purchased this specific pair of tickets. My point is that the frequency of this type of pattern occurs seemingly indicates Bots at play. Nevertheless, there is always a human behind this at the end of the day, but the pattern and frequency of these scenarios seemingly points to a non-human aspect to secure these tickets.
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Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
2006: Washington, D.C.
2008: Washington, D.C.
2010: Bristow, VA
2013: Baltimore, MD
2016: Hampton, VA
2020: Baltimore, MD
2023: Noblesville, IN TBD
2024: Seattle, WA N1 and N2
This is never not annoying & feels like a super waste of time...
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
2016: Ottawa
2018: Wrigley 1 & 2
2022: Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
2023: Innings Fest (EV), Ft Worth 1 & 2, Austin 1 & 2
2024: Seattle 1 & 2
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Edit: They'll go up as soon as Ticketmaster allows me. I've listed before, so I'm not sure why I'm getting the error this time around.
Ohana Encore N1 & N2 2021 /\ St. Louis 2022 /\ OKC 2022 /\ Chicago N1 & N2 2023
Chicago N1 & N2 2024
Ohana Encore N1 & N2 2021 /\ St. Louis 2022 /\ OKC 2022 /\ Chicago N1 & N2 2023
Chicago N1 & N2 2024
Ohana Encore N1 & N2 2021 /\ St. Louis 2022 /\ OKC 2022 /\ Chicago N1 & N2 2023
Chicago N1 & N2 2024
-On 7/29 at 2:49pm, 5 listings existed for MSG N2 within Section 120 on StubHub. No tickets available were showing Row 22.
-On 7/29, a pair of tickets for MSG N2, Section 120, Row 22 went up for sale on TM reseller exchange. They were gone instantly.
-On 7/30 as of 2:29pm, 6 listings exists for MSG N2 within Section 120 on StubHub. The additional inventory that appears is a pair of tickets, seated together within Row 22.
Screenshots below. You may have to zoom your browser to see the screenshot.