I know this may be beating a dead horse, but the frequency of errors and carting within TM seemingly indicates the Bot issue. An established pattern exists. This is clear evidence in my mind that this Bot/AI does exist and is instantly setup to purchase tickets selling at Face Value, only to appear later on stubhub. Here are the facts:
-On 7/29 at 2:49pm, 5 listings existed for MSG N2 within Section 120 on StubHub. No tickets available were showing Row 22. -On 7/29, a pair of tickets for MSG N2, Section 120, Row 22 went up for sale on TM reseller exchange. They were gone instantly. -On 7/30 as of 2:29pm, 6 listings exists for MSG N2 within Section 120 on StubHub. The additional inventory that appears is a pair of tickets, seated together within Row 22.
Screenshots below. You may have to zoom your browser to see the screenshot.
Yes, we've seen many similar examples. However, that doesn't necessarily mean it was a bot. Since MSG is freely transferable, anyone could buy them and relist on stubhub.
Correct. It doesn't mean it's a Bot that effected this transaction and purchased this specific pair of tickets. My point is that the frequency of this type of pattern occurs seemingly indicates Bots at play.
I'm not sure why the frequency necessarily means bots, as opposed to humans simply recognizing an opportunity to buy as many tickets as they can to resell at a higher price.
I know this may be beating a dead horse, but the frequency of errors and carting within TM seemingly indicates the Bot issue. An established pattern exists. This is clear evidence in my mind that this Bot/AI does exist and is instantly setup to purchase tickets selling at Face Value, only to appear later on stubhub. Here are the facts:
-On 7/29 at 2:49pm, 5 listings existed for MSG N2 within Section 120 on StubHub. No tickets available were showing Row 22. -On 7/29, a pair of tickets for MSG N2, Section 120, Row 22 went up for sale on TM reseller exchange. They were gone instantly. -On 7/30 as of 2:29pm, 6 listings exists for MSG N2 within Section 120 on StubHub. The additional inventory that appears is a pair of tickets, seated together within Row 22.
Screenshots below. You may have to zoom your browser to see the screenshot.
Yes, we've seen many similar examples. However, that doesn't necessarily mean it was a bot. Since MSG is freely transferable, anyone could buy them and relist on stubhub.
Correct. It doesn't mean it's a Bot that effected this transaction and purchased this specific pair of tickets. My point is that the frequency of this type of pattern occurs seemingly indicates Bots at play.
I'm not sure why the frequency necessarily means bots, as opposed to humans simply recognizing an opportunity to buy as many tickets as they can to resell at a higher price.
It's always humans behind it at the end of the day. I'd imagine bots don't necessarily care about money, so this unequivocally points back to a human at some point in the transaction chain, with or without technological (as you've shared), divine, or some other type of intervention. Seemingly was included in my post for a reason. I was simply providing documented support of a case scenario I experienced firsthand. Seems others have as well on this thread (hence, the idea of frequency and patterns). Deduce from it what you will. Or don't, the great thing about this is it's your prerogative.
Just U521d twice on Wrigley 2 GAs. Anyone get them?
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Pair of lawns for Noblesville going up. Edit: They'll go up as soon as Ticketmaster allows me. I've listed before, so I'm not sure why I'm getting the error this time around.
I am also trying to sell Indy and it won't let me list it. I think its specific to Indy now....
~ ninjadave ~ 2003 - State College 5/3 2006 - Cleveland 5/20 and Pittsburgh 6/23 2008 - Washington DC 6/22 2009 - Philly Spectrum 10/28, 10/30 and 10/31 2010 - Columbus 5/6 and Cleveland 5/9 2011 - Philly [EV] 6/25 and PJ20 9/3-4 2013 - Pittsburgh 10/11, Buffalo 10/12, Philly 10/21-22 and Baltimore 10/27 2014 - Detroit 10/16 2016 - Philly 4/28-29 and Philly [TotD] 11/5 2020 - Baltimore 3/28 2022 - Ottawa 9/3 and Camden 9/14 2023 - Indianapolis 9/10 2024 - Philly 9/7-9 and Baltimore 9/12
Going to drop a Wrigley 128 row 2 seat 9 night 2 for sale sometime tomorrow. 1 ticket. I really dont want bots to gobble it up and resell. It's 10c face. If you are interested in PayPal friends and family the ticket is transferable. Send a message. Work early but will check tomorrow.
Hate to do it but Wrigley has to wait for another time for me.
Going to drop a Wrigley 128 row 2 seat 9 night 2 for sale sometime tomorrow. 1 ticket. I really dont want bots to gobble it up and resell. It's 10c face. If you are interested in PayPal friends and family the ticket is transferable. Send a message. Work early but will check tomorrow.
Hate to do it but Wrigley has to wait for another time for me.
it says your profile is private but I am looking for a single. DM me please
2016: Telluride, CO 2018: Fenway 1 2021: Sea.Hear.Now 2022: San Diego, MSG, Camden 2023: Ft. Worth 1, Ft. Worth 2, Austin 1, Austin 2 2024: Las Vegas 1, Las Vegas 2, Wrigley 1, Wrigley 2, MSG 1, MSG 2, Philly 2
MSG N1 is such a struggle for 1 ticket. Might start looking at US Open ticket for the Tuesday.
Barrie 98, Toronto 00, Toronto 03, Buffalo 03, Toronto 05, Hamilton 05, Kitchener 05, Toronto 06 I II, Lolla 07, Vedder Toronto I II, Toronto 09, Philly Oct 30 & 31 2009, Buffalo 2010, Cleveland 2010, Toronto I II 2011, Hamilton 2011, Ottawa 2011, London 2013, Buffalo 2013, Pittsburgh 2013, FLL 2016, Miami 2016, Tor I & II 2016, Barcelona 2018, Toronto 2022, Ottawa 2022, Quebec City 2022, Hamilton 2022
Decent Wrigley N1 pair on the aisle up for face. Sec 222, Row 3. Go go go!
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
Are they still shutting down Fenway F2F 10 days prior to the shows? I have tickets to both but night 2 may be a little bit up in the air for me as of right now. I didn't think I would have a problem unloading them on the 16th or even day of. Kinda sucks
Are they still shutting down Fenway F2F 10 days prior to the shows? I have tickets to both but night 2 may be a little bit up in the air for me as of right now. I didn't think I would have a problem unloading them on the 16th or even day of. Kinda sucks
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Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
2003 - State College 5/3
2006 - Cleveland 5/20 and Pittsburgh 6/23
2008 - Washington DC 6/22
2009 - Philly Spectrum 10/28, 10/30 and 10/31
2010 - Columbus 5/6 and Cleveland 5/9
2011 - Philly [EV] 6/25 and PJ20 9/3-4
2013 - Pittsburgh 10/11, Buffalo 10/12, Philly 10/21-22 and Baltimore 10/27
2014 - Detroit 10/16
2016 - Philly 4/28-29 and Philly [TotD] 11/5
2020 - Baltimore 3/28
2022 - Ottawa 9/3 and Camden 9/14
2023 - Indianapolis 9/10
2024 - Philly 9/7-9 and Baltimore 9/12
Hate to do it but Wrigley has to wait for another time for me.
2018: Fenway 1
2021: Sea.Hear.Now
2022: San Diego, MSG, Camden
2023: Ft. Worth 1, Ft. Worth 2, Austin 1, Austin 2
2024: Las Vegas 1, Las Vegas 2, Wrigley 1, Wrigley 2, MSG 1, MSG 2, Philly 2
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.