Fan To Fan

Robdog983

Ok so I have a buddy who is not understanding what I’ve been telling him about why not to buy from a third party (stubhub,vivid seats, etc). He’s telling me he’s willing to pay for and buy tix that he’s not seeing being available on TM. I’ve explained to him and even shown him what the band have stated in regards to try to prevent scalping. I’m telling him if he buys tix from anywhere other than TM, he’s running the risk of not being able to get into the venue due to the no transfer rule and now with this news about not being able to add the ticket to your wallet from other devices, etc. Any tips or advice on what else to tell him? Lol I just don’t want him throwing his money away. I’m sure he’d be able to get it back with the fan protect programs stubhub and vivid offer. But still, why go through all that if you don’t have to, you know what I mean?

PhartN

GlowGirl said:

Last year in St. Paul I had upgraded to GA on F2F and wanted to give my amazing reserved ticket to a friend. That was when we found out the wallet transfer didn’t work. We tried all types of ways including my signing on to his iPhone with my Apple ID and logging into my TM account from there. It still didn’t work. We even tried to disable Face ID. Still didn’t work. We ended up doing a very tense timed drop on F2F on the spot. Luckily he was able to get the ticket. 

ya, i feel this so hard, lol...made the hard choice to do a timed drop for a solid ticket for SEA1 last night...was successful, but super stressful...

FWIW to all, it seems single ticket drops for the timed drops is the way...YMMV, but i have had 2 successful timed drops on singles this tour.  Pairs have been gobbled up by the bots/other hardcore f5ers

SHZA

Robdog983 said:

Ok so I have a buddy who is not understanding what I’ve been telling him about why not to buy from a third party (stubhub,vivid seats, etc). He’s telling me he’s willing to pay for and buy tix that he’s not seeing being available on TM. I’ve explained to him and even shown him what the band have stated in regards to try to prevent scalping. I’m telling him if he buys tix from anywhere other than TM, he’s running the risk of not being able to get into the venue due to the no transfer rule and now with this news about not being able to add the ticket to your wallet from other devices, etc. Any tips or advice on what else to tell him? Lol I just don’t want him throwing his money away. I’m sure he’d be able to get it back with the fan protect programs stubhub and vivid offer. But still, why go through all that if you don’t have to, you know what I mean?

Probably need to see what happens with tickets from those sites for the upcoming shows. If people get shut out, you can let him know that. If the tickets still work, he should go for it  

PhartN

danlee1095 said:

PhartN said:

danlee1095 said:

How do I know if a ticket in my Apple Wallet that was added from my wife's TM account is valid?  I was able to add her GA's for Seattle to my iPhone Apple Wallet and the "Hold Near Reader" icon is moving.  She broke her foot and sort of still recovering, so may not make the trip...

A) sorry to hear about your wife's foot.
If you have an extra GA for either SEA night, id be interested

Sadly, no clue about how that would work for you?  I would assume, for now, that if you have them in your wallet already, they will be good?

Looks like the tickets are safely in my Wallet with no error messages, so should be good!  If she doesn't come, unfortunately have like 6 friends in line...

was worth a shot...ha! see yall there!

GlowGirl

Robdog983 said:

Ok so I have a buddy who is not understanding what I’ve been telling him about why not to buy from a third party (stubhub,vivid seats, etc). He’s telling me he’s willing to pay for and buy tix that he’s not seeing being available on TM. I’ve explained to him and even shown him what the band have stated in regards to try to prevent scalping. I’m telling him if he buys tix from anywhere other than TM, he’s running the risk of not being able to get into the venue due to the no transfer rule and now with this news about not being able to add the ticket to your wallet from other devices, etc. Any tips or advice on what else to tell him? Lol I just don’t want him throwing his money away. I’m sure he’d be able to get it back with the fan protect programs stubhub and vivid offer. But still, why go through all that if you don’t have to, you know what I mean?

Tell him about this new process that started a few days ago and we know so little about how it is going to work that it is not worth the risk. He can get theoretically a ticket from a secondary site but it won’t be activated until he can somehow get it in his wallet. He can’t use it from the TM app as he could in the past. The only shows he can likely still get without any of these potential risks are msg and Wrigley since the tickets can be directly transferred to his account. 

GlowGirl

SHZA said:

Robdog983 said:

Ok so I have a buddy who is not understanding what I’ve been telling him about why not to buy from a third party (stubhub,vivid seats, etc). He’s telling me he’s willing to pay for and buy tix that he’s not seeing being available on TM. I’ve explained to him and even shown him what the band have stated in regards to try to prevent scalping. I’m telling him if he buys tix from anywhere other than TM, he’s running the risk of not being able to get into the venue due to the no transfer rule and now with this news about not being able to add the ticket to your wallet from other devices, etc. Any tips or advice on what else to tell him? Lol I just don’t want him throwing his money away. I’m sure he’d be able to get it back with the fan protect programs stubhub and vivid offer. But still, why go through all that if you don’t have to, you know what I mean?

Probably need to see what happens with tickets from those sites for the upcoming shows. If people get shut out, you can let him know that. If the tickets still work, he should go for it  

Good thought. The next few shows will be the test. 

Robdog983

GlowGirl said:

Robdog983 said:

Ok so I have a buddy who is not understanding what I’ve been telling him about why not to buy from a third party (stubhub,vivid seats, etc). He’s telling me he’s willing to pay for and buy tix that he’s not seeing being available on TM. I’ve explained to him and even shown him what the band have stated in regards to try to prevent scalping. I’m telling him if he buys tix from anywhere other than TM, he’s running the risk of not being able to get into the venue due to the no transfer rule and now with this news about not being able to add the ticket to your wallet from other devices, etc. Any tips or advice on what else to tell him? Lol I just don’t want him throwing his money away. I’m sure he’d be able to get it back with the fan protect programs stubhub and vivid offer. But still, why go through all that if you don’t have to, you know what I mean?

Tell him about this new process that started a few days ago and we know so little about how it is going to work that it is not worth the risk. He can get theoretically a ticket from a secondary site but it won’t be activated until he can somehow get it in his wallet. He can’t use it from the TM app as he could in the past. The only shows he can likely still get without any of these potential risks are msg and Wrigley since the tickets can be directly transferred to his account. 

Got it! Yeah, that all makes sense. I’ll let him know that. Appreciate you all! 

JE224127

Tickets might be protected by 3rd party sites but what about hotels, flights, etc. Hoping it doesn’t come to that….

danlee1095

GlowGirl said:

Last year in St. Paul I had upgraded to GA on F2F and wanted to give my amazing reserved ticket to a friend. That was when we found out the wallet transfer didn’t work. We tried all types of ways including my signing on to his iPhone with my Apple ID and logging into my TM account from there. It still didn’t work. We even tried to disable Face ID. Still didn’t work. We ended up doing a very tense timed drop on F2F on the spot. Luckily he was able to get the ticket. 

I remember the STP issues too, but last year if you didn't need to add to a Wallet to get in, couldn't your friend just have logged into the TM app (or web browser) with your credentials and used the ticket from one of those sources?

Lerxst1992

PhartN said:

Lerxst1992 said:

TM is trying to stop bots by requiring a matching email account that the user is logged into at the time of the show? 

If that’s correct what stops the broker from creating transferable email addresses to accompany the disposable TM account? 

There are much easier ways to prevent bots from buying on F2F by simply identifying disposable TM accounts at time of purchase based on the account history.

It also requires multifactor/matching face recog to transfer the ticket to apple wallet as well as apple id, which will prohibit the third party sites/resellers from being able to sell all the face value/F2F tickets to people for over face...this is on iOS at least, still waiting for data RE: android.

If there are much easier ways to prohibit bots, and you know how, please DM me so we can start a business and cash in...

Bots for F2F - if brokers are using disposable TM accounts, that should be very easy for TM to identify based on lack of purchase history and record and location of shows attended.

Face ID , wonderful, and if we don’t use pr want to use Face ID?

danlee1095

PhartN said:

danlee1095 said:

PhartN said:

danlee1095 said:

How do I know if a ticket in my Apple Wallet that was added from my wife's TM account is valid?  I was able to add her GA's for Seattle to my iPhone Apple Wallet and the "Hold Near Reader" icon is moving.  She broke her foot and sort of still recovering, so may not make the trip...

A) sorry to hear about your wife's foot.
If you have an extra GA for either SEA night, id be interested

Sadly, no clue about how that would work for you?  I would assume, for now, that if you have them in your wallet already, they will be good?

Looks like the tickets are safely in my Wallet with no error messages, so should be good!  If she doesn't come, unfortunately have like 6 friends in line...

was worth a shot...ha! see yall there!

Sounds like a plan!

Robdog983

danlee1095 said:

GlowGirl said:

Last year in St. Paul I had upgraded to GA on F2F and wanted to give my amazing reserved ticket to a friend. That was when we found out the wallet transfer didn’t work. We tried all types of ways including my signing on to his iPhone with my Apple ID and logging into my TM account from there. It still didn’t work. We even tried to disable Face ID. Still didn’t work. We ended up doing a very tense timed drop on F2F on the spot. Luckily he was able to get the ticket. 

I remember the STP issues too, but last year if you didn't need to add to a Wallet to get in, couldn't your friend just have logged into the TM app (or web browser) with your credentials and used the ticket from one of those sources?

Last year I attended one of the Austin shows and never added the ticket to my wallet. I was able to get in with the barcode being scanned from my TM login.

GlowGirl

danlee1095 said:

GlowGirl said:

Last year in St. Paul I had upgraded to GA on F2F and wanted to give my amazing reserved ticket to a friend. That was when we found out the wallet transfer didn’t work. We tried all types of ways including my signing on to his iPhone with my Apple ID and logging into my TM account from there. It still didn’t work. We even tried to disable Face ID. Still didn’t work. We ended up doing a very tense timed drop on F2F on the spot. Luckily he was able to get the ticket. 

I remember the STP issues too, but last year if you didn't need to add to a Wallet to get in, couldn't your friend just have logged into the TM app (or web browser) with your credentials and used the ticket from one of those sources?

Yes. They could have. But honestly we were so focused on the wallet thing we didn’t think of that until after. 

GlowGirl

Robdog983 said:

danlee1095 said:

GlowGirl said:

Last year in St. Paul I had upgraded to GA on F2F and wanted to give my amazing reserved ticket to a friend. That was when we found out the wallet transfer didn’t work. We tried all types of ways including my signing on to his iPhone with my Apple ID and logging into my TM account from there. It still didn’t work. We even tried to disable Face ID. Still didn’t work. We ended up doing a very tense timed drop on F2F on the spot. Luckily he was able to get the ticket. 

I remember the STP issues too, but last year if you didn't need to add to a Wallet to get in, couldn't your friend just have logged into the TM app (or web browser) with your credentials and used the ticket from one of those sources?

Last year I attended one of the Austin shows and never added the ticket to my wallet. I was able to get in with the barcode being scanned from my TM login.

Right. Last year you didn’t need to. That is what has changed this year. You actually need to add to a wallet. 

SHZA

Lerxst1992 said:

PhartN said:

Lerxst1992 said:

TM is trying to stop bots by requiring a matching email account that the user is logged into at the time of the show? 

If that’s correct what stops the broker from creating transferable email addresses to accompany the disposable TM account? 

There are much easier ways to prevent bots from buying on F2F by simply identifying disposable TM accounts at time of purchase based on the account history.

It also requires multifactor/matching face recog to transfer the ticket to apple wallet as well as apple id, which will prohibit the third party sites/resellers from being able to sell all the face value/F2F tickets to people for over face...this is on iOS at least, still waiting for data RE: android.

If there are much easier ways to prohibit bots, and you know how, please DM me so we can start a business and cash in...

Bots for F2F - if brokers are using disposable TM accounts, that should be very easy for TM to identify based on lack of purchase history and record and location of shows attended.

Face ID , wonderful, and if we don’t use pr want to use Face ID?

What if I'm someone who had never attended a concert but after hearing Dark Matter, decided to create a TM account so I could buy tickets to see Pearl Jam. They should just assume I'm a scalper and cancel my tickets??

bootleg

Is TM down right now or just me?

SHZA

GlowGirl said:

danlee1095 said:

GlowGirl said:

Last year in St. Paul I had upgraded to GA on F2F and wanted to give my amazing reserved ticket to a friend. That was when we found out the wallet transfer didn’t work. We tried all types of ways including my signing on to his iPhone with my Apple ID and logging into my TM account from there. It still didn’t work. We even tried to disable Face ID. Still didn’t work. We ended up doing a very tense timed drop on F2F on the spot. Luckily he was able to get the ticket. 

I remember the STP issues too, but last year if you didn't need to add to a Wallet to get in, couldn't your friend just have logged into the TM app (or web browser) with your credentials and used the ticket from one of those sources?

Yes. They could have. But honestly we were so focused on the wallet thing we didn’t think of that until after. 

Also would need to be someone you know pretty well to trust with the credentials 

Robdog983

SHZA said:

Lerxst1992 said:

PhartN said:

Lerxst1992 said:

TM is trying to stop bots by requiring a matching email account that the user is logged into at the time of the show? 

If that’s correct what stops the broker from creating transferable email addresses to accompany the disposable TM account? 

There are much easier ways to prevent bots from buying on F2F by simply identifying disposable TM accounts at time of purchase based on the account history.

It also requires multifactor/matching face recog to transfer the ticket to apple wallet as well as apple id, which will prohibit the third party sites/resellers from being able to sell all the face value/F2F tickets to people for over face...this is on iOS at least, still waiting for data RE: android.

If there are much easier ways to prohibit bots, and you know how, please DM me so we can start a business and cash in...

Bots for F2F - if brokers are using disposable TM accounts, that should be very easy for TM to identify based on lack of purchase history and record and location of shows attended.

Face ID , wonderful, and if we don’t use pr want to use Face ID?

What if I'm someone who had never attended a concert but after hearing Dark Matter, decided to create a TM account so I could buy tickets to see Pearl Jam. They should just assume I'm a scalper and cancel my tickets??

Right. I was going to say something similar. I have friends and/or family members who love attending shows but rarely are the ones who are purchasing the tickets. So what if they one day decided they wanted to create a TM account to do make the purchase themselves? Their accounts are going to be looked at as a “throwaways”? Highly doubtful.

Sugarloafer04

bootleg said:

Is TM down right now or just me?

down for me too on pc and iphone 

mikesbri

-"North American tickets are non-transferable* and non-refundable. Pearl Jam has partnered with Ticketmaster to help fans get their tickets at face value. On the night of the show, all guests will be required to enter with the ticket purchaser." 10C ticket policy not sure if always been like this but seems maybe they are enforcing now.