Fan To Fan

JE224127

I don’t see this as a problem, for the most part the ID’s should match. Short term issue for some,long term for the good of the true fan.

MakeUSmile

RVMMFC said:

Let's be fair though, this is actually an apple based problem not a TM ticket problem. Android doesn't have this issue, correct?

/me looks at buying stock in android for the first time since 1st generation iPhone was released. Lol. 

Hoping this all shakes out ok for us. Guess we need to wait and see how this plays out. 

hairgrowth2001

I have an iPhone SE and was able to add my Indy tickets from my wife’s TM account to my wallet. I then logged back into my TM account and was able to add a set of tickets to my wallet. No problem.

PhartN

JE224127 said:

I don’t see this as a problem, for the most part the ID’s should match. Short term issue for some,long term for the good of the true fan.

Agreed here!  Itll hurt short term for those that expected to have this in the F2F toolbox, but it seems that the bots got smarter and TM is combating that by not allowing account transfers as a way to block the secondary market reseller strat.  I hope to see a bunch of bot tickets drop back on F2F for all shows.  This could be huge for everyone that has missed out thus far.

GlowGirl

hairgrowth2001 said:

I have an iPhone SE and was able to add my Indy tickets from my wife’s TM account to my wallet. I then logged back into my TM account and was able to add a set of tickets to my wallet. No problem.

That is great it worked. Just keep an eye on the tickets from your wife’s account to make sure they don’t deactivate. Hopefully, they won’t. 

SHZA

craigraether said:

SHZA said:

GlowGirl said:

Robdog983 said:

This is all super confusing to me lol. So I have 1 ticket to MSG N1 and there’s a chance I might not be able to make it. The ticket is already in my Apple wallet. The “hold near reader” messages moves as well. If I decide to end up selling F2F at some point, is this going to be an issue?

No. Just remove it from your wallet and list it in F2F or better get since msg can be transferred, transfer it to someone here. 

The issue we are talking about is logging into someone else’s account from your phone. But just make sure to remove from your wallet before selling or transferring. 

Actually I sold or transferred a couple tickets recently without removing from my wallet and they automatically said invalid and were moved to the "expired pass" section once the other person accepted the transfer. 

You missed OMD? They were great in 22.. 

Going to see them in Chicago instead. October 

SHZA

hairgrowth2001 said:

I have an iPhone SE and was able to add my Indy tickets from my wife’s TM account to my wallet. I then logged back into my TM account and was able to add a set of tickets to my wallet. No problem.

What iOS version are you on? That could explain a lot 

SHZA

RVMMFC said:

Let's be fair though, this is actually an apple based problem not a TM ticket problem. Android doesn't have this issue, correct?

It's not a problem at all. It actually puts some teeth in the transfer restriction, which is meaningless if you can just put the tickets on someone else's phone. I'd expect it's just a matter of time until Android has a similar feature 

hairgrowth2001

Version 17.4.1

danlee1095

Anyone test this new security protocol on an Android device? I have a bunch of old Amazon Fire tablets - may bring to LV and hand them out on GA line if that’s a workaround. Can get them back after the shows (save for next shows!)

Lerxst1992

TM is trying to stop bots by requiring a matching email account that the user is logged into at the time of the show? 

If that’s correct what stops the broker from creating transferable email addresses to accompany the disposable TM account? 

There are much easier ways to prevent bots from buying on F2F by simply identifying disposable TM accounts at time of purchase based on the account history.

Busch896

So, if my wife were to log into our TM account on her phone and download our tickets to a show to her phone, would I be able to log into our TM account later and download tickets to the next show on my phone?

PhartN

Lerxst1992 said:

TM is trying to stop bots by requiring a matching email account that the user is logged into at the time of the show? 

If that’s correct what stops the broker from creating transferable email addresses to accompany the disposable TM account? 

There are much easier ways to prevent bots from buying on F2F by simply identifying disposable TM accounts at time of purchase based on the account history.

It also requires multifactor/matching face recog to transfer the ticket to apple wallet as well as apple id, which will prohibit the third party sites/resellers from being able to sell all the face value/F2F tickets to people for over face...this is on iOS at least, still waiting for data RE: android.

If there are much easier ways to prohibit bots, and you know how, please DM me so we can start a business and cash in...

GlowGirl

Busch896 said:

So, if my wife were to log into our TM account on her phone and download our tickets to a show to her phone, would I be able to log into our TM account later and download tickets to the next show on my phone?

That is the question. I guess we will see what people start reporting when they try all this stuff. I hope it works out for everyone. Each year they put more restrictions on these things. 

PhartN

Busch896 said:

So, if my wife were to log into our TM account on her phone and download our tickets to a show to her phone, would I be able to log into our TM account later and download tickets to the next show on my phone?

I think you starting with "our TM account" may be an issue, it isnt intended for sharing that way.

It seems the answer is no, unless you log into the second device with the same apple id...i think "we" are still testing this out and should know more after the next couple of shows...?

So far it seems that:

- buy tix
- open TM
- tap place in wallet
- get prompted for faceID/MFA to move forward
- tickets in wallet
(please chime in if this is not correct)

From there, at least ins past years, you can remove from wallet, i think SHZA posted something about this a few posts back...

JimmyV

This was such a fun thread in years past. Now it seems like F2F is one issue after another. 

Busch896

PhartN said:

Busch896 said:

So, if my wife were to log into our TM account on her phone and download our tickets to a show to her phone, would I be able to log into our TM account later and download tickets to the next show on my phone?

I think you starting with "our TM account" may be an issue, it isnt intended for sharing that way.

It seems the answer is no, unless you log into the second device with the same apple id...i think "we" are still testing this out and should know more after the next couple of shows...?

So far it seems that:

- buy tix
- open TM
- tap place in wallet
- get prompted for faceID/MFA to move forward
- tickets in wallet
(please chime in if this is not correct)

From there, at least ins past years, you can remove from wallet, i think SHZA posted something about this a few posts back...

Gotcha. We've always just used the same account. I appreciate the effort to stop scalpers, but a little guidance on this from 10C/TM for us legit fans would go a long way! Just don't wanna get locked out of a show because a ticket to a different show was downloaded to my wife's phone months earlier. Is this Apple ID linking specific to just Pearl Jam tickets, or all TM tickets? May be screwed already lol. 

GlowGirl

Last year in St. Paul I had upgraded to GA on F2F and wanted to give my amazing reserved ticket to a friend. That was when we found out the wallet transfer didn’t work. We tried all types of ways including my signing on to his iPhone with my Apple ID and logging into my TM account from there. It still didn’t work. We even tried to disable Face ID. Still didn’t work. We ended up doing a very tense timed drop on F2F on the spot. Luckily he was able to get the ticket. 

PhartN

JimmyV said:

This was such a fun thread in years past. Now it seems like F2F is one issue after another. 

I think we are all frustrated...we love the band, the music, arguably the F2F "game"...but we need to not misplace our anger/frustration...it needs to be directed at all the bad actors...TM, the bots, the resellers, the scalpers, the folks that are looking to profit...these are the real reasons that we have all of the hoops to jump through in the first place.

I feel like these changes are being made in order to help us in the long run, admittedly causing some short term pain...TBD i guess...i am trying to keep positive and hoping that this all works out in the end (which it seems to be for most of us so far). 

PhartN

Busch896 said:

PhartN said:

Busch896 said:

So, if my wife were to log into our TM account on her phone and download our tickets to a show to her phone, would I be able to log into our TM account later and download tickets to the next show on my phone?

I think you starting with "our TM account" may be an issue, it isnt intended for sharing that way.

It seems the answer is no, unless you log into the second device with the same apple id...i think "we" are still testing this out and should know more after the next couple of shows...?

So far it seems that:

- buy tix
- open TM
- tap place in wallet
- get prompted for faceID/MFA to move forward
- tickets in wallet
(please chime in if this is not correct)

From there, at least ins past years, you can remove from wallet, i think SHZA posted something about this a few posts back...

Gotcha. We've always just used the same account. I appreciate the effort to stop scalpers, but a little guidance on this from 10C/TM for us legit fans would go a long way! Just don't wanna get locked out of a show because a ticket to a different show was downloaded to my wife's phone months earlier. 

100% agree....