European Tour Sales = Desaster

sdh8252

The £91 tickets do seem to be selling, albeit very slowly, so I reckon if TM knock them down to more like £50 they'll sell a lot more.  RHCP last year wasn't sold out at Spurs, but was very close to full 

Spiritual_Chaos

Wish I would have gone to London and then also seen Kings of Leon. BOOOOOOOOOOH

axeljohan

GA-Tickets for Berlin (both nights) are available again for the regular price of 175 EUR at Ticketmaster.de

Also good seats are now available in sections A2 and E1. While 10c-members are still stuck with 10c-seats in A1 und E2.

Indifference

There is a single Manchester GA less then face on resale.

Planet of Sound

Indifference said:

There is a single Manchester GA less then face on resale.

Is it yours/10C?

JABK

axeljohan said:

GA-Tickets for Berlin (both nights) are available again for the regular price of 175 EUR at Ticketmaster.de

Also good seats are now available in sections A2 and E1. While 10c-members are still stuck with 10c-seats in A1 und E2.

It would be so easy for Ticketmaster to offer the chance to exchange seats to GA...but with Ticketmaster it's not going to happen.

axeljohan

JABK said:

axeljohan said:

GA-Tickets for Berlin (both nights) are available again for the regular price of 175 EUR at Ticketmaster.de

Also good seats are now available in sections A2 and E1. While 10c-members are still stuck with 10c-seats in A1 und E2.

It would be so easy for Ticketmaster to offer the chance to exchange seats to GA...but with Ticketmaster it's not going to happen.

For any exchange to happen, 10c would have to tell TM to do so. Which apparantly 10c won't do.

Indifference

Planet of Sound said:

Indifference said:

There is a single Manchester GA less then face on resale.

Is it yours/10C?

Yes, already sold one.

Zen23

axeljohan said:

GA-Tickets for Berlin (both nights) are available again for the regular price of 175 EUR at Ticketmaster.de

Also good seats are now available in sections A2 and E1. While 10c-members are still stuck with 10c-seats in A1 und E2.

While the fans who had to pay huge amounts of money for PJ Premium tickets for the lower tier at the start of the presale are now the ones who are screwed. While they are trying to recoup their money in the resale, Ticketmaster is happily offering better seats at a fraction of the price. Shitty world.

lastexitlondon

Really bad system. I'm surprised the band are happy with this.

Zen23

Same game in Barcelona. Ticketmaster starts converting original Platinum Tickets in Level 1 into standard Reserved Seating Tickets for now 165 euros completely randomly and without any sense or any relation to the surrounding seats. While fans are left sitting on their 230 euro resale tickets. Although this perverse system is not new and well known, I could puke every time I see it.

lastexitlondon

Disgraceful 

axeljohan

Zen23 said:

axeljohan said:

GA-Tickets for Berlin (both nights) are available again for the regular price of 175 EUR at Ticketmaster.de

Also good seats are now available in sections A2 and E1. While 10c-members are still stuck with 10c-seats in A1 und E2.

While the fans who had to pay huge amounts of money for PJ Premium tickets for the lower tier at the start of the presale are now the ones who are screwed. While they are trying to recoup their money in the resale, Ticketmaster is happily offering better seats at a fraction of the price. Shitty world.

Only solution for this: don't jump on Premium tickets at the start of the sale. Hard to do, when you really want to go to a concert, but there has to be a learning curve on the consumer side.

marumaruko

axeljohan said:

Zen23 said:

axeljohan said:

GA-Tickets for Berlin (both nights) are available again for the regular price of 175 EUR at Ticketmaster.de

Also good seats are now available in sections A2 and E1. While 10c-members are still stuck with 10c-seats in A1 und E2.

While the fans who had to pay huge amounts of money for PJ Premium tickets for the lower tier at the start of the presale are now the ones who are screwed. While they are trying to recoup their money in the resale, Ticketmaster is happily offering better seats at a fraction of the price. Shitty world.

Only solution for this: don't jump on Premium tickets at the start of the sale. Hard to do, when you really want to go to a concert, but there has to be a learning curve on the consumer side.

This, or simply stop looking once you got your tickets and be content. 
I got early Tool tickets for this spring in Europe and I am sure I overpaid, but I really wanted to see them, so I'm happy to have scored great seats. 

(Although I also learned through this to wait a bit longer - Dynamic pricing is great for people who want to decide closer to a show)

Zod

marumaruko said:

axeljohan said:

Zen23 said:

axeljohan said:

GA-Tickets for Berlin (both nights) are available again for the regular price of 175 EUR at Ticketmaster.de

Also good seats are now available in sections A2 and E1. While 10c-members are still stuck with 10c-seats in A1 und E2.

While the fans who had to pay huge amounts of money for PJ Premium tickets for the lower tier at the start of the presale are now the ones who are screwed. While they are trying to recoup their money in the resale, Ticketmaster is happily offering better seats at a fraction of the price. Shitty world.

Only solution for this: don't jump on Premium tickets at the start of the sale. Hard to do, when you really want to go to a concert, but there has to be a learning curve on the consumer side.

This, or simply stop looking once you got your tickets and be content. 
I got early Tool tickets for this spring in Europe and I am sure I overpaid, but I really wanted to see them, so I'm happy to have scored great seats. 

(Although I also learned through this to wait a bit longer - Dynamic pricing is great for people who want to decide closer to a show)

I do wonder what will happen as ticket buy psychology adapts over the next number of years.   Most of us grew up when it was get 'em right away, or you have to deal with a reseller.  It's now completely inverted, and the best thing you can do is wait until the last second.

Peoples psychology and ticket buying routines will adapt to this right?

pjl44

Zod said:

marumaruko said:

axeljohan said:

Zen23 said:

axeljohan said:

GA-Tickets for Berlin (both nights) are available again for the regular price of 175 EUR at Ticketmaster.de

Also good seats are now available in sections A2 and E1. While 10c-members are still stuck with 10c-seats in A1 und E2.

While the fans who had to pay huge amounts of money for PJ Premium tickets for the lower tier at the start of the presale are now the ones who are screwed. While they are trying to recoup their money in the resale, Ticketmaster is happily offering better seats at a fraction of the price. Shitty world.

Only solution for this: don't jump on Premium tickets at the start of the sale. Hard to do, when you really want to go to a concert, but there has to be a learning curve on the consumer side.

This, or simply stop looking once you got your tickets and be content. 
I got early Tool tickets for this spring in Europe and I am sure I overpaid, but I really wanted to see them, so I'm happy to have scored great seats. 

(Although I also learned through this to wait a bit longer - Dynamic pricing is great for people who want to decide closer to a show)

I do wonder what will happen as ticket buy psychology adapts over the next number of years.   Most of us grew up when it was get 'em right away, or you have to deal with a reseller.  It's now completely inverted, and the best thing you can do is wait until the last second.

Peoples psychology and ticket buying routines will adapt to this right?

Mine has but you also have to be able to sniff out which shows this will not be the case

PJNB

Why are they charging fees for Fan to fan sales? 

Kearn5y

PJNB said:

Why are they charging fees for Fan to fan sales? 

I don't think these are Fan to Fan in Europe. It's resale, and fees are always charged on resale tickets. TM take a big fee to facilitate the sale.

axeljohan

Well, initially TM wrote that re-sale of tickets in Europe could happen without additional fees for seller AND buyer, because it is important to the band that fans only pay the intended amount for tickets.  

Asked TM Germany about the fees, then they said the initial remarks were a mistake and only the seller does not have to pay fees for re-selling and they corrected the section on their website. Guess it is not that important to the band that fans only pay the amount intended. Guess TM UK made just the same mistake. 

Planet of Sound

Except the seller does pay, as they have to reduce the price in order to cover fees or the tickets for the buyer are more expensive than those on general sale (it seems a lot of people sellers have not grasped this looking at TM).