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  • kaw753
    kaw753 Posts: 941
    I actually care more that the shows have gone from 35 songs down to 22 songs than I am about the tickets being $50 more. By the time I pay for travel and the time to get there, it isn't really worth it for a single show.

    It is like how it now costs $20 to go to Chipotle and the employee shakes the scoop several times to make sure I don't get that extra cube of chicken.
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    kaw753 said:
    I actually care more that the shows have gone from 35 songs down to 22 songs than I am about the tickets being $50 more. By the time I pay for travel and the time to get there, it isn't really worth it for a single show.

    It is like how it now costs $20 to go to Chipotle and the employee shakes the scoop several times to make sure I don't get that extra cube of chicken.
    Same. People will say quality over quantity but those 30-35 song shows had both. 
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,251
    pjhawks said:
    It's really got to suck for the guys in the band to be held to standards they set for themselves 25-30 years ago. I sure as heck don't want people in my life to hold me to the same standards or beliefs I had when I was 20-25 years old. Maybe stop holding them to those standards of yesteryear  or put them on a pedestal that they are above what other bands do or charge.  No system they implement is going to be perfect, but the more 10C seats and the availability of every show is still pretty damn good.  The premium prices is a really easy decision for most people. Either you are ok with paying it or not.  It shouldn't be a two week bitch fest about the cost in my opinion because the old days aren't coming back.
    Yep.  That was my point. It is what it is and you need to take it or leave it.
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,823
    jimjam1982 said:
    pjhawks said:
    It's really got to suck for the guys in the band to be held to standards they set for themselves 25-30 years ago. I sure as heck don't want people in my life to hold me to the same standards or beliefs I had when I was 20-25 years old. Maybe stop holding them to those standards of yesteryear  or put them on a pedestal that they are above what other bands do or charge.  No system they implement is going to be perfect, but the more 10C seats and the availability of every show is still pretty damn good.  The premium prices is a really easy decision for most people. Either you are ok with paying it or not.  It shouldn't be a two week bitch fest about the cost in my opinion because the old days aren't coming back.
    Right?

    They fought for their fanbase that was 16 to 26 years old primarily at the time....which btw is when you are at your poorest.

    If you can't afford shows now... No one to blame but the choices you have made of your own free will. 30 years later and you haven't grown and made more money? Take a long hard look in the mirror before blaming the band. Your decisions aren't the bands fault. Plenty of things to complain about in this world and Pearl Jam ticket prices aren't one of them. 
    Its not always poor choices.
    I spent about 25k last year in medical bills and AC going out. That put a dent in our vacation plans. Our son was diagnosed with Celiac last year, and just the tests they did ran about 4k to diagnose it. Not to mention the specialists and follow up treatments after he was diagnosed. I was hospitalized for 4 days a few months ago with multiple pulmonary embolisms. That staycation cost me about 5k. AC going out was another 8k.
    Not too many people can blow through 25k in under a year and feel like they can still travel to see their favorite band. 
  • JW19798
    JW19798 Posts: 1
    PJ sold out. 

    They've far exceed "The Simpsons Threshold" of having more time where your records have sucked than the time when their records were quality. Celebrating their 25th year as a legacy band and nostalgia act, it's only right to embrace Dynamic Pricing.

    Kurt Cobain was right about them.
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,057
    JW19798 said:
    PJ sold out. 

    They've far exceed "The Simpsons Threshold" of having more time where your records have sucked than the time when their records were quality. Celebrating their 25th year as a legacy band and nostalgia act, it's only right to embrace Dynamic Pricing.

    Kurt Cobain was right about them.
    Cool John Oliver GIFs Tenor
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,488
    A solid portion of posters here wishing things to still be 1995 is the most on brand sentiment for this forum. 
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,596
    JimmyV said:
    The Cobain stuff doesn't help, either. He is deified and frozen in time. Pearl Jam meanwhile has aged, matured, learned, etc. The world is a much more complicated than many of us thought when we were young. 
    JW19798 said:
    PJ sold out. 

    They've far exceed "The Simpsons Threshold" of having more time where your records have sucked than the time when their records were quality. Celebrating their 25th year as a legacy band and nostalgia act, it's only right to embrace Dynamic Pricing.

    Kurt Cobain was right about them.
    And there it is.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,519
    JW19798 said:
    PJ sold out. 

    They've far exceed "The Simpsons Threshold" of having more time where your records have sucked than the time when their records were quality. Celebrating their 25th year as a legacy band and nostalgia act, it's only right to embrace Dynamic Pricing.

    Kurt Cobain was right about them.
    And yet you pay them to be in their fan club!
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,519
    The bands this guy actually likes he must bring duffel.bags of cash to their shows
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,519
    Hmmmmmmmmmm


  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,488
    A lot of these posts come off as gross entitlement bordering on tantrum.

  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,889
    I have a hard time thinking PJ sold out, but in regards to ticket prices, they're not really on the cheaper end or the most expensive end.   I feel they're cheaper than more veteran rock acts, more expensive than less veteran/popular acts, and compared to peers, they're kind of around (give or take) where their ticket prices are.  There does seem to be some exceptions for N.A. vs. Europe (which I had no idea until this, that European fans paid a lot less for concert tickets than we do).

    It's definitely not the days of underpricing themselves compared to peers, nor do I feel like they're gouging compared to peers.  I understand why.   It's now the primary income generator for musicians, since piracy, and them streaming eroded making too much money on the actual music.  They've also got families and 30+ years of lifestyle creep. If something happens and the band couldn't tour anymore, they probably to know they'll be ok.

    It also feels like we (as fans) lose a tiny bit more with every tour.   

    It's a tough tug of war.    Still feel like I'll keep going while I can.   Mostly on the basis I won't need a concert budget when I'm older, as most of the bands I listen too are older than me, so there's high odds they age out before I do :(

    Also, I did really like Avacado, also liked Backspacer a fair bit, so for me they haven't hit the Simpsons ratio yet :)
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,488
    This is no place for fair nuanced takes!!


  • Haijay
    Haijay Posts: 439
    JW19798 said:
    PJ sold out. 

    They've far exceed "The Simpsons Threshold" of having more time where your records have sucked than the time when their records were quality. Celebrating their 25th year as a legacy band and nostalgia act, it's only right to embrace Dynamic Pricing.

    Kurt Cobain was right about them.
    So, you’re a fan club member of a band you hate? Interesting🤔🤔🤔

    Hey, when is the new Imagine Dragons record coming out? 
  • CantKeepmedown
    CantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 3,119
    JW19798 said:
    PJ sold out. 

    They've far exceed "The Simpsons Threshold" of having more time where your records have sucked than the time when their records were quality. Celebrating their 25th year as a legacy band and nostalgia act, it's only right to embrace Dynamic Pricing.

    Kurt Cobain was right about them.
    So you joined the forum right when they started sucking? Makes sense
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,251
    edited March 2024
    JW19798 said:
    PJ sold out. 

    They've far exceed "The Simpsons Threshold" of having more time where your records have sucked than the time when their records were quality. Celebrating their 25th year as a legacy band and nostalgia act, it's only right to embrace Dynamic Pricing.

    Kurt Cobain was right about them.
    Most bands don’t last that long, and those that do rarely have amazing records late into their career because the newness wears off and we are used to the sound that set them apart. 

    While the National puts out good records, their sound hasn’t changed much if any.  The songs while good are interchangeable.  PJ at least tries to do something different.  Unfortunately they havent struck gold too many times.
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  • smile6680
    smile6680 Posts: 433
    josevolution said:
    I wonder if the band reads or knows about the disgruntled fans or even care anymore! Or maybe they don’t have a clue on what’s happening with this issue 🤔
    They never respond to anything. Why? No one knows. 

    I don't blame them for not reading this board. I too wouldn't want to read some of the negativity. The fans on here that defend and try and rationalize everything that the band does would scare me off even more. 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,488
    So the people who are complaining are the only rational ones. Got it. 
  • kmcmanus
    kmcmanus Posts: 892
    the albums are all good up through Avacado, and while there’s a drop off after that it’s not like Backspacer, LB & Gigaton are bad per se, just less good. 
    There are a lot of really great bands that would love to have an album as good as Riot Act or Binaural. 

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