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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,203
    Bootleg says this thread doesn’t survive through Tuesday. 
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    pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,277
    edited March 5
    LF183187 said:
    Yeah, mostly just disappointed with the ticket prices. Seem excessive, me as a person with “high” income by statistical standards. Guess I’m officially old at 39. Not so much the lottery loss. Pearl Jam are playing in the Taylor Swift sandbox I guess. Must’ve just discovered Ayn Rand or something. 
    Maybe they will play the RNC soon. 
    Except your original post on the previous page said nothing about ticket prices.  
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    Tjm007Tjm007 Posts: 161
    Bootleg says this thread doesn’t survive through Tuesday. 
    That would be funny. The most preachy right on band in the world , forever ramming their luxury beliefs down our throats which is fine as long as they keep putting out decent music starts censoring their own message board because of they don’t want to hear feedback.

    my Facebook and insta feeds is awash with Ticketmaster ads for the White Hart Lane - already….
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    Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 7,026
    What are the bands luxury beliefs? 
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,203
    Tjm007 said:
    Bootleg says this thread doesn’t survive through Tuesday. 
    That would be funny. The most preachy right on band in the world , forever ramming their luxury beliefs down our throats which is fine as long as they keep putting out decent music starts censoring their own message board because of they don’t want to hear feedback.

    my Facebook and insta feeds is awash with Ticketmaster ads for the White Hart Lane - already….

    www.cluthelee.com
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    lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 12,498
    Spotify keep sending me ads to buy tickets for Tottenham........ Er no
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    RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 4,444
    LF183187 said:
    Yeah, mostly just disappointed with the ticket prices. Seem excessive, me as a person with “high” income by statistical standards. Guess I’m officially old at 39. Not so much the lottery loss. Pearl Jam are playing in the Taylor Swift sandbox I guess. Must’ve just discovered Ayn Rand or something. 
    Maybe they will play the RNC soon. 
    Ayn Am Mine
    Scratch that - better one:

    I Am Ayn 
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

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    Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 7,026
    Dude, Ayn Mine is right there. 
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    pjl44pjl44 Posts: 8,377
    LF183187 said:
    Yeah, mostly just disappointed with the ticket prices. Seem excessive, me as a person with “high” income by statistical standards. Guess I’m officially old at 39. Not so much the lottery loss. Pearl Jam are playing in the Taylor Swift sandbox I guess. Must’ve just discovered Ayn Rand or something. 
    Maybe they will play the RNC soon. 
    Arena shows are wagyu steak and club shows are tacos. If you lived by your own principles you'd be cool scarfing down tasty tacos. But you're on here insisting on the wagyu and asking the chef to give it to you for taco prices.
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,623
    $1,900 seats in MSG.  That's all that needs to be said. 100% Eddie from 1995 would not be okay with it.  2024 Eddie is okay with it.

    So like Eddie, we need to change or move along.  This thread may be a good place for venting, but change anything it will not. 

    Does Whipping hit the same now?  Probably not.  
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    Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 7,026
    I feel like a majority of this is people just posting through their FOMO. 
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    pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 14,786
    Spotify keep sending me ads to buy tickets for Tottenham........ Er no
    go on Rob, see you there for a beer?
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    on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,544
    kaw753 said:
    I actually care more that the shows have gone from 35 songs down to 22 songs than I am about the tickets being $50 more. By the time I pay for travel and the time to get there, it isn't really worth it for a single show.

    It is like how it now costs $20 to go to Chipotle and the employee shakes the scoop several times to make sure I don't get that extra cube of chicken.



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    RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 4,444
    $1,900 seats in MSG.  That's all that needs to be said. 100% Eddie from 1995 would not be okay with it.  2024 Eddie is okay with it.

    So like Eddie, we need to change or move along.  This thread may be a good place for venting, but change anything it will not. 

    Does Whipping hit the same now?  Probably not.  
    They say if you’re not a socialist at 20 you haven’t got a heart and if you’re not a capitalist at 50 you haven’t got a mind.  
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    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

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    droptheleash9droptheleash9 Posts: 1,363
    I'm not here to carry water for the band and I'll happily call them out when I disagree with them. That said, Pearl Jam ticket prices have long been kept artificially low relative to what they could be charging. What the band charges has frequently been been multiples less than what comparable acts were asking for for their seats, particularly in the best locations. As for the PJ Premium seats, those are a small portion of the seats available so to act like that is the price for all tickets is disingenuous. PJ Premium seats are also a concession in order for the band to even get 10 club seats in todays day and age. Imagine if the folks here had to pay market price and didn't have the opportunity for 10c drawings like 99% of other musical acts?

    Yes. Things have changed. Yes the band has softened its stance on dealing with the devil (ticketmaster). Is it a perfect system? No. That doesn't mean we don't have it better than fans of most bands when it comes to ticket prices. Would you rather be paying $1,300 on stubhub before fees to get an obstructed view balcony seat to Taylor Swift?
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,623
    $1,900 seats in MSG.  That's all that needs to be said. 100% Eddie from 1995 would not be okay with it.  2024 Eddie is okay with it.

    So like Eddie, we need to change or move along.  This thread may be a good place for venting, but change anything it will not. 

    Does Whipping hit the same now?  Probably not.  
    They say if you’re not a socialist at 20 you haven’t got a heart and if you’re not a capitalist at 50 you haven’t got a mind.  
    Make sense.  You don't have enough life experience at 20 to understand every side to every argument or situation.  Not to say that means that once you do you realize capitalism is the way to go.   
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,774
    $1,900 seats in MSG.  That's all that needs to be said. 100% Eddie from 1995 would not be okay with it.  2024 Eddie is okay with it.

    So like Eddie, we need to change or move along.  This thread may be a good place for venting, but change anything it will not. 

    Does Whipping hit the same now?  Probably not.  
    They say if you’re not a socialist at 20 you haven’t got a heart and if you’re not a capitalist at 50 you haven’t got a mind.  
    I've always heard this worded as "If you're a 20-year-old Republican/Conservative, you have no heart, and if you're a 50-year-old Democrat/Liberal, you have no brain."
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    Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 7,026
    Its a pithy quip with no basis in reality. 
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    lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 12,498
    pdalowsky said:
    Spotify keep sending me ads to buy tickets for Tottenham........ Er no
    go on Rob, see you there for a beer?
    Mate I have less than no money living in poverty things are bad. So even if tickets were 20 quid I'd be fucked.  I would love a beer one day though mate
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    pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 14,786
    pdalowsky said:
    Spotify keep sending me ads to buy tickets for Tottenham........ Er no
    go on Rob, see you there for a beer?
    Mate I have less than no money living in poverty things are bad. So even if tickets were 20 quid I'd be fucked.  I would love a beer one day though mate
    :( 

    The sun will rise another day mate, and the beer at least will be on me
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,203
    on2legs said:
    kaw753 said:
    I actually care more that the shows have gone from 35 songs down to 22 songs than I am about the tickets being $50 more. By the time I pay for travel and the time to get there, it isn't really worth it for a single show.

    It is like how it now costs $20 to go to Chipotle and the employee shakes the scoop several times to make sure I don't get that extra cube of chicken.



    Going to test this logic out tomorrow! Genius! 
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    maximumlawmanmaximumlawman Regensburg, Germany Posts: 222
    I'm not here to carry water for the band and I'll happily call them out when I disagree with them. That said, Pearl Jam ticket prices have long been kept artificially low relative to what they could be charging. What the band charges has frequently been been multiples less than what comparable acts were asking for for their seats, particularly in the best locations. As for the PJ Premium seats, those are a small portion of the seats available so to act like that is the price for all tickets is disingenuous. PJ Premium seats are also a concession in order for the band to even get 10 club seats in todays day and age. Imagine if the folks here had to pay market price and didn't have the opportunity for 10c drawings like 99% of other musical acts?

    Yes. Things have changed. Yes the band has softened its stance on dealing with the devil (ticketmaster). Is it a perfect system? No. That doesn't mean we don't have it better than fans of most bands when it comes to ticket prices. Would you rather be paying $1,300 on stubhub before fees to get an obstructed view balcony seat to Taylor Swift?
    What may have actually been artificially low in the US has felt like quite reasonably priced tickets in Europe for the last tours, non-transferable, almost no scalping. The drastic price increase combined with „let‘s move Tenclub seats to the side to make room for premium options“ in Berlin hit some of us in the gut. Therefore Ayn-Rand-comparisons and capitalism-themed songtitles come up to cope with the disappointment via cynicism.
    Although I agree that we have it still better than the fans of most other bands, I will ask the bartender in my favourite bar tonight to play the video of PinkPops 1992 RITFW on the screen to bathe in PJ-nostalgia. 
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,720
    pjhawks said:
    It's really got to suck for the guys in the band to be held to standards they set for themselves 25-30 years ago. I sure as heck don't want people in my life to hold me to the same standards or beliefs I had when I was 20-25 years old. Maybe stop holding them to those standards of yesteryear  or put them on a pedestal that they are above what other bands do or charge.  No system they implement is going to be perfect, but the more 10C seats and the availability of every show is still pretty damn good.  The premium prices is a really easy decision for most people. Either you are ok with paying it or not.  It shouldn't be a two week bitch fest about the cost in my opinion because the old days aren't coming back.
    Right?

    They fought for their fanbase that was 16 to 26 years old primarily at the time....which btw is when you are at your poorest.

    If you can't afford shows now... No one to blame but the choices you have made of your own free will. 30 years later and you haven't grown and made more money? Take a long hard look in the mirror before blaming the band. Your decisions aren't the bands fault. Plenty of things to complain about in this world and Pearl Jam ticket prices aren't one of them. 
    Very bad..its the second time i think im reading posts about ''life choices''..ridiculous..
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    patkelly12patkelly12 CT Posts: 349
    They didn’t change. They evolved. Evolving polls better. 
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    ZodZod Posts: 10,378
    edited March 5
    23scidoo said:
    pjhawks said:
    It's really got to suck for the guys in the band to be held to standards they set for themselves 25-30 years ago. I sure as heck don't want people in my life to hold me to the same standards or beliefs I had when I was 20-25 years old. Maybe stop holding them to those standards of yesteryear  or put them on a pedestal that they are above what other bands do or charge.  No system they implement is going to be perfect, but the more 10C seats and the availability of every show is still pretty damn good.  The premium prices is a really easy decision for most people. Either you are ok with paying it or not.  It shouldn't be a two week bitch fest about the cost in my opinion because the old days aren't coming back.
    Right?

    They fought for their fanbase that was 16 to 26 years old primarily at the time....which btw is when you are at your poorest.

    If you can't afford shows now... No one to blame but the choices you have made of your own free will. 30 years later and you haven't grown and made more money? Take a long hard look in the mirror before blaming the band. Your decisions aren't the bands fault. Plenty of things to complain about in this world and Pearl Jam ticket prices aren't one of them. 
    Very bad..its the second time i think im reading posts about ''life choices''..ridiculous..
    not exactly ridiculous.   I think the reason veteran act's can charge more is because on average they have older fans, who on average have higher amounts of disposable income.  Not everyone, but on average.

    It's why when we were young PJ, Nirvana, etc.. tickets were pretty cheap, but a Stones show would cost 3x as much.  

    It's also technically the cycle many people go through in their career.   Late teen's and 20's, you figure out some education, figure out skills sets, build a career.   Get into your 30's you try to make sure you own a home and start building equity.  Get to your 40s and 50s and you should be in peak earning years (due to skills and experience).    That's when you do a lot of retirement saving etc.. Lots of people go through that cycle, it's not really ridiculous.   Yes some people get hit by the bad luck bus, but that's how it works for many people.

    Like for me, the hardest tickets I ever bought were the ones for the 2000 tour. They were all US dates, FX rate was awful, it was my first year of university. I think after FX the Seattle tickets worked out to about 60cdn.   That was so hard to scrape up money.  a $208cdn 2024 ticket seems way less painful to me than a $60 2000 ticket.
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    marra2312marra2312 Posts: 49
    Zod said:
    23scidoo said:
    pjhawks said:
    It's really got to suck for the guys in the band to be held to standards they set for themselves 25-30 years ago. I sure as heck don't want people in my life to hold me to the same standards or beliefs I had when I was 20-25 years old. Maybe stop holding them to those standards of yesteryear  or put them on a pedestal that they are above what other bands do or charge.  No system they implement is going to be perfect, but the more 10C seats and the availability of every show is still pretty damn good.  The premium prices is a really easy decision for most people. Either you are ok with paying it or not.  It shouldn't be a two week bitch fest about the cost in my opinion because the old days aren't coming back.
    Right?

    They fought for their fanbase that was 16 to 26 years old primarily at the time....which btw is when you are at your poorest.

    If you can't afford shows now... No one to blame but the choices you have made of your own free will. 30 years later and you haven't grown and made more money? Take a long hard look in the mirror before blaming the band. Your decisions aren't the bands fault. Plenty of things to complain about in this world and Pearl Jam ticket prices aren't one of them. 
    Very bad..its the second time i think im reading posts about ''life choices''..ridiculous..
    not exactly ridiculous.   I think the reason veteran act's can charge more is because on average they have older fans, who on average have higher amounts of disposable income.  Not everyone, but on average.

    It's why when we were young PJ, Nirvana, etc.. tickets were pretty cheap, but a Stones show would cost 3x as much.  

    It's also technically the cycle many people go through in their career.   Late teen's and 20's, you figure out some education, figure out skills sets, build a career.   Get into your 30's you try to make sure you own a home and start building equity.  Get to your 40s and 50s and you should be in peak earning years (due to skills and experience).    That's when you do a lot of retirement saving etc.. Lots of people go through that cycle, it's not really ridiculous.   Yes some people get hit by the bad luck bus, but that's how it works for many people.

    I mean there's a bunch of reasons that veteran acts can charge more.

    There's the obvious thing of inflation - both natural and forced. Almost all tickets, no matter the size of the band are more expensive than they were 10 years ago, let alone 30 years ago.

    Then there is the supply/demand issue. For a veteran act to still be playing large venues, there is likely to be high demand for them generally speaking. Also veteran acts often play less frequently than younger acts, which impacts that.

    And finally, there's the reason you point out about the disposable income of much of the fan base.

    There's probably 30 other reasons that smarter people than me can identify. 

    Doesn't mean the bands always get the pricing right. This particular tour it seems like the EU pricing has been generally more expensive than the market probably supports. It happens.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,736
    LF183187 said:
    Yeah, mostly just disappointed with the ticket prices. Seem excessive, me as a person with “high” income by statistical standards. Guess I’m officially old at 39. Not so much the lottery loss. Pearl Jam are playing in the Taylor Swift sandbox I guess. Must’ve just discovered Ayn Rand or something. 
    Maybe they will play the RNC soon. 
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    SHZASHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 3,476
    Zod said:
    23scidoo said:
    pjhawks said:
    It's really got to suck for the guys in the band to be held to standards they set for themselves 25-30 years ago. I sure as heck don't want people in my life to hold me to the same standards or beliefs I had when I was 20-25 years old. Maybe stop holding them to those standards of yesteryear  or put them on a pedestal that they are above what other bands do or charge.  No system they implement is going to be perfect, but the more 10C seats and the availability of every show is still pretty damn good.  The premium prices is a really easy decision for most people. Either you are ok with paying it or not.  It shouldn't be a two week bitch fest about the cost in my opinion because the old days aren't coming back.
    Right?

    They fought for their fanbase that was 16 to 26 years old primarily at the time....which btw is when you are at your poorest.

    If you can't afford shows now... No one to blame but the choices you have made of your own free will. 30 years later and you haven't grown and made more money? Take a long hard look in the mirror before blaming the band. Your decisions aren't the bands fault. Plenty of things to complain about in this world and Pearl Jam ticket prices aren't one of them. 
    Very bad..its the second time i think im reading posts about ''life choices''..ridiculous..
    not exactly ridiculous.   I think the reason veteran act's can charge more is because on average they have older fans, who on average have higher amounts of disposable income.  Not everyone, but on average.

    It's why when we were young PJ, Nirvana, etc.. tickets were pretty cheap, but a Stones show would cost 3x as much.  

    It's also technically the cycle many people go through in their career.   Late teen's and 20's, you figure out some education, figure out skills sets, build a career.   Get into your 30's you try to make sure you own a home and start building equity.  Get to your 40s and 50s and you should be in peak earning years (due to skills and experience).    That's when you do a lot of retirement saving etc.. Lots of people go through that cycle, it's not really ridiculous.   Yes some people get hit by the bad luck bus, but that's how it works for many people.

    Like for me, the hardest tickets I ever bought were the ones for the 2000 tour. They were all US dates, FX rate was awful, it was my first year of university. I think after FX the Seattle tickets worked out to about 60cdn.   That was so hard to scrape up money.  a $208cdn 2024 ticket seems way less painful to me than a $60 2000 ticket.
    I think saying that anyone who would feel financial strain from paying the current prices must have made poor "life choices" is a bad and condescending take. Any individual's financial circumstance is based on many factors. Not everyone has the same opportunities, priorities, or family situation. And misfortune can strike though no choice at all. If someone devotes their career to public service, teaching, etc., implying that they made a bad choice because concert tickets are less affordable is pretty insulting. 
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    on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,544
    on2legs said:
    kaw753 said:
    I actually care more that the shows have gone from 35 songs down to 22 songs than I am about the tickets being $50 more. By the time I pay for travel and the time to get there, it isn't really worth it for a single show.

    It is like how it now costs $20 to go to Chipotle and the employee shakes the scoop several times to make sure I don't get that extra cube of chicken.



    Going to test this logic out tomorrow! Genius! 

    I wish I could claim it as my own theory because its next level thinking!
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    ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,642
    SHZA said:
    Zod said:
    23scidoo said:
    pjhawks said:
    It's really got to suck for the guys in the band to be held to standards they set for themselves 25-30 years ago. I sure as heck don't want people in my life to hold me to the same standards or beliefs I had when I was 20-25 years old. Maybe stop holding them to those standards of yesteryear  or put them on a pedestal that they are above what other bands do or charge.  No system they implement is going to be perfect, but the more 10C seats and the availability of every show is still pretty damn good.  The premium prices is a really easy decision for most people. Either you are ok with paying it or not.  It shouldn't be a two week bitch fest about the cost in my opinion because the old days aren't coming back.
    Right?

    They fought for their fanbase that was 16 to 26 years old primarily at the time....which btw is when you are at your poorest.

    If you can't afford shows now... No one to blame but the choices you have made of your own free will. 30 years later and you haven't grown and made more money? Take a long hard look in the mirror before blaming the band. Your decisions aren't the bands fault. Plenty of things to complain about in this world and Pearl Jam ticket prices aren't one of them. 
    Very bad..its the second time i think im reading posts about ''life choices''..ridiculous..
    not exactly ridiculous.   I think the reason veteran act's can charge more is because on average they have older fans, who on average have higher amounts of disposable income.  Not everyone, but on average.

    It's why when we were young PJ, Nirvana, etc.. tickets were pretty cheap, but a Stones show would cost 3x as much.  

    It's also technically the cycle many people go through in their career.   Late teen's and 20's, you figure out some education, figure out skills sets, build a career.   Get into your 30's you try to make sure you own a home and start building equity.  Get to your 40s and 50s and you should be in peak earning years (due to skills and experience).    That's when you do a lot of retirement saving etc.. Lots of people go through that cycle, it's not really ridiculous.   Yes some people get hit by the bad luck bus, but that's how it works for many people.

    Like for me, the hardest tickets I ever bought were the ones for the 2000 tour. They were all US dates, FX rate was awful, it was my first year of university. I think after FX the Seattle tickets worked out to about 60cdn.   That was so hard to scrape up money.  a $208cdn 2024 ticket seems way less painful to me than a $60 2000 ticket.
    I think saying that anyone who would feel financial strain from paying the current prices must have made poor "life choices" is a bad and condescending take. Any individual's financial circumstance is based on many factors. Not everyone has the same opportunities, priorities, or family situation. And misfortune can strike though no choice at all. If someone devotes their career to public service, teaching, etc., implying that they made a bad choice because concert tickets are less affordable is pretty insulting. 
    Exactly.  Not everyone is driven by making the most money they can.  Thankfully.
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
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