Dark Matter World Tour 2024

SE219519

Anybody did get seat instead of GA?

Lerxst1992

LS164963 said:

BloodMeridian80 said:

LS164963 said:

23scidoo said:

LS164963 said:

23scidoo said:

HailHailVitalogy said:

Guys, they’re only playing 35 shows as a “world tour” that’s why prices are high. Green Day and Foo are charging less but they’re also playing A LOT more shows. If we got a 2006 type tour pretty sure prices would be lower.

So, they want to make money..

There was only 9... well 8 shows last year and tickets were less expensive. Your argument is invalid

2022 Berlin 100 euro
2024 Berlin 175 euro..

Thank you, exactly my point.

Prices are inflated but 2022 tickets are 2020 makeup dates and prices are 2020. Still a big increase, I know. Guess what, if they tour next year or in 2026, tickets will be more expensive than these. Girder yourself!

Yes agree 100% the "Covid" excuse and the "supply chain excuse" will be use to continue to increase the price of everything. But a topic of discussion for another day

It’s not an excuse, it’s reality. Everything costs more, especially an industry hit hardest by Covid.

  The issue is there are no low cost upper level tickets in the PJ universe, and fans sitting in the uppers are subsidizing the cost for senior members sitting next to the stage show after show year after year for the same or similar price.

BloodMeridian80

Lerxst1992 said:

LS164963 said:

BloodMeridian80 said:

LS164963 said:

23scidoo said:

LS164963 said:

23scidoo said:

HailHailVitalogy said:

Guys, they’re only playing 35 shows as a “world tour” that’s why prices are high. Green Day and Foo are charging less but they’re also playing A LOT more shows. If we got a 2006 type tour pretty sure prices would be lower.

So, they want to make money..

There was only 9... well 8 shows last year and tickets were less expensive. Your argument is invalid

2022 Berlin 100 euro
2024 Berlin 175 euro..

Thank you, exactly my point.

Prices are inflated but 2022 tickets are 2020 makeup dates and prices are 2020. Still a big increase, I know. Guess what, if they tour next year or in 2026, tickets will be more expensive than these. Girder yourself!

Yes agree 100% the "Covid" excuse and the "supply chain excuse" will be use to continue to increase the price of everything. But a topic of discussion for another day

It’s not an excuse, it’s reality. Everything costs more, especially an industry hit hardest by Covid.

  The issue is there are no low cost upper level tickets in the PJ universe, and fans sitting in the uppers are subsidizing the cost for senior members sitting next to the stage show after show year after year for the same or similar price.

Agreed they should have more disparity in price but having two seating tiers will diversify the mix of seniority for better or worse, at least in US

pjl44

rael said:

Does anyone know why it takes so long (presuming some time close to April 1st) to confirm what actual seats you have been awarded?

Why read the details when you can presume and complain?

rael

Original_Shifty said:

rael said:

Does anyone know why it takes so long (presuming some time close to April 1st) to confirm what actual seats you have been awarded?

Claim Tickets Emailed: 

Claim Ticket emails with instructions on how to view your tickets will come from customer_support@orders.ticketmaster.com by end of day Friday, Feb 23.

Let’s hope you are right, from the email this evening:
What Happens Next?
We will email you instructions to view your tickets in a separate email prior to 1 April.

Lerxst1992

SS151546 said:

23scidoo said:

HailHailVitalogy said:

Guys, they’re only playing 35 shows as a “world tour” that’s why prices are high. Green Day and Foo are charging less but they’re also playing A LOT more shows. If we got a 2006 type tour pretty sure prices would be lower.

So, they want to make money..

Foo and Green Day are not charging less.  Green Day top price is $220+ fees, some markets are even a bit more.  Foo Fighters were $180+ fees.  Those bands have cheaper priced tickets as they don't price the entire venue at the same price point but the top end price is more than PJ.  Everyone needs to account that the cost of touring has skyrocketed significantly over the past 4 years.  Everything costs more money when it comes to touring and there are a lot of expenses that goes into a tour.  Just look at how many acts are charging $300, $400, $500+ per ticket these days.   

the PJ one price fits all policy (or now +$10) where fans sitting in the upper sections  subsidizing senior fans sitting next to the stage will become a bigger issue as ticket prices continue to skyrocket. But the full story gets lost in “inflation.”

PJ, it’s time to start charging fair prices for all ticket levels since prices are approaching industry average and costs are skyrocketing.

PhartN

dimitrispearljam said:

BARCELONA SEATED NIGHT 1 
BARCELONA GA NIGHT 2
BERLIN NIGHT 1 GA
BERLIN NIGHT 2 GA

All scored ,same card charged with the one dicline for Australia 

What did you sign up for?  AKA, did you choose all options, GA, 1, 2..or just GA/1?

kaw753

Lerxst1992 said:

SS151546 said:

23scidoo said:

HailHailVitalogy said:

Guys, they’re only playing 35 shows as a “world tour” that’s why prices are high. Green Day and Foo are charging less but they’re also playing A LOT more shows. If we got a 2006 type tour pretty sure prices would be lower.

So, they want to make money..

Foo and Green Day are not charging less.  Green Day top price is $220+ fees, some markets are even a bit more.  Foo Fighters were $180+ fees.  Those bands have cheaper priced tickets as they don't price the entire venue at the same price point but the top end price is more than PJ.  Everyone needs to account that the cost of touring has skyrocketed significantly over the past 4 years.  Everything costs more money when it comes to touring and there are a lot of expenses that goes into a tour.  Just look at how many acts are charging $300, $400, $500+ per ticket these days.   

the PJ one price fits all policy (or now +$10) where fans sitting in the upper sections  subsidizing senior fans sitting next to the stage will become a bigger issue as ticket prices continue to skyrocket. But the full story gets lost in “inflation.”

PJ, it’s time to start charging fair prices for all ticket levels since prices are approaching industry average and costs are skyrocketing.

I would disagree with them on it being only $10 less, but having two different tiers of pricing now guarantees that none of us get stuck with crap upper level tickets in arenas. You simply don't put in for them.

BF25394

Lerxst1992 said:

kmcmanus said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Zod said:

MD190661 said:

kaw753 said:

MD190661 said:

kaw753 said:

hihobibo said:

JBob87 said:

One angle I didn't consider...you know there is going to be someone who accidentally wins 10 shows because of the elimination of priority.

I know it has always said "be prepared to be charged for everything" but with the old priority system there was always kind of a cap on what was realistic. 

In the old days you had to get them at will call too. Now you can just post them on F2F. So as long as someone can take the credit card hit for a month or so, someone can realistically sign up for every show knowing they can dump whatever they don't want pretty easily. It was very apparent last year that was the case, as you'd see people who all of a sudden "couldn't make it" for a show they just put in for a few weeks before, and post them up to F2F as soon as that option opened. The by-product of this is that it pushes out others who actually want to go further back, or not getting picked at all. 

Basically, the 10c tickets are now just a starting point and then you hit F2F to see if you can do better. Of the 6 pairs I won last tour, only my #6 pick were seats that didn't suck and/or I couldn't easily do better with 30 minutes of F5 on F2F.  It went from me being shutout in the lottery for two shows in South Carolina in 2016 to now pretty much getting picked for everything and not using what they are giving out.

Which is why I think it's still worth doing the lottery. I want GA for the show I picked. If I don't get that, maybe I'll get seats I like. If not, I'll find better ones at the F2F and sell my 10 Club. 

The people getting screwed with the no priority system are people in NYC, Philly, and Baltimore. I went from having 0% chance of getting those to the same as people who live beside the arenas who would have put them as #1 back in the day. I might have a 0.001% chance of getting GA for NYC, but....

I kind of wish they'd do a zip code thing for shows like MSG or other tough tickets. I know PJ is a travel band, but I think it should be easier for someone who lives within a few miles to get to tickets than me in CA. 

Would it help that much?  New York has almost 75% of the population of Canada within 100 miles of its city centre.   I think playing a bigger venue would help more

A four hour drive from NYC yields the population of Canada plus Australia. And also Almost nearly doubles the population of California (closer to 1.5x).

And you would still need to drive 2 more hours before you hit Syracuse but MSG is still our closest “local” show. New York is a big state beyond just NYC.

I’m just mentioning for a population comparison. So many shows in Cali, Vegas and AZ in recent years, but not many realize there is a much greater population density here on the east coast, despite California being the largest state. A land mass like that on the east coast would be at least double the Cali population

too bad we’d never get double the shows!

This is an exaggeration. You'd have to combine the population of all the coastal states from New York down to Georgia (plus non-coastal states PA and WV) to get to double the population of California (NY, NJ, PA, MD, DE, WV, VA, NC, SC and GA = 2xCA + ~3M). CA = ~ all six N.E. states plus NY and NJ. CA also = ~ MD, DE, WV, VA, NC, SC and GA combined.

They play a lot of shows in the West in part because they are from the West. The band is based in Seattle (duh, I know), but its members live primarily in or near Seattle, Los Angeles, Montana (and Hawai'i). 

Yorkshire Lass

  Manchester tickets standing

PJ_Soul

If we don't get our seat assignments before the public sale starts I'll be pissed.

matt84

SE219519 said:

Anybody did get seat instead of GA?

Wondering the same. Seems to be a lot of GA.

LS164963

BF25394 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

kmcmanus said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Zod said:

MD190661 said:

kaw753 said:

MD190661 said:

kaw753 said:

hihobibo said:

JBob87 said:

One angle I didn't consider...you know there is going to be someone who accidentally wins 10 shows because of the elimination of priority.

I know it has always said "be prepared to be charged for everything" but with the old priority system there was always kind of a cap on what was realistic. 

In the old days you had to get them at will call too. Now you can just post them on F2F. So as long as someone can take the credit card hit for a month or so, someone can realistically sign up for every show knowing they can dump whatever they don't want pretty easily. It was very apparent last year that was the case, as you'd see people who all of a sudden "couldn't make it" for a show they just put in for a few weeks before, and post them up to F2F as soon as that option opened. The by-product of this is that it pushes out others who actually want to go further back, or not getting picked at all. 

Basically, the 10c tickets are now just a starting point and then you hit F2F to see if you can do better. Of the 6 pairs I won last tour, only my #6 pick were seats that didn't suck and/or I couldn't easily do better with 30 minutes of F5 on F2F.  It went from me being shutout in the lottery for two shows in South Carolina in 2016 to now pretty much getting picked for everything and not using what they are giving out.

Which is why I think it's still worth doing the lottery. I want GA for the show I picked. If I don't get that, maybe I'll get seats I like. If not, I'll find better ones at the F2F and sell my 10 Club. 

The people getting screwed with the no priority system are people in NYC, Philly, and Baltimore. I went from having 0% chance of getting those to the same as people who live beside the arenas who would have put them as #1 back in the day. I might have a 0.001% chance of getting GA for NYC, but....

I kind of wish they'd do a zip code thing for shows like MSG or other tough tickets. I know PJ is a travel band, but I think it should be easier for someone who lives within a few miles to get to tickets than me in CA. 

Would it help that much?  New York has almost 75% of the population of Canada within 100 miles of its city centre.   I think playing a bigger venue would help more

A four hour drive from NYC yields the population of Canada plus Australia. And also Almost nearly doubles the population of California (closer to 1.5x).

And you would still need to drive 2 more hours before you hit Syracuse but MSG is still our closest “local” show. New York is a big state beyond just NYC.

I’m just mentioning for a population comparison. So many shows in Cali, Vegas and AZ in recent years, but not many realize there is a much greater population density here on the east coast, despite California being the largest state. A land mass like that on the east coast would be at least double the Cali population

too bad we’d never get double the shows!

This is an exaggeration. You'd have to combine the population of all the coastal states from New York down to Georgia (plus non-coastal states PA and WV) to get to double the population of California (NY, NJ, PA, MD, DE, WV, VA, NC, SC and GA = 2xCA + ~3M). CA = ~ all six N.E. states plus NY and NJ. CA also = ~ MD, DE, WV, VA, NC, SC and GA combined.

They play a lot of shows in the West in part because they are from the West. The band is based in Seattle (duh, I know), but its members live primarily in or near Seattle, Los Angeles, Montana (and Hawai'i). 

"So many shows in Vegas" 🤣 Last time they play Vegas was 2006 almost 18 years ago. Main reason I've travel all over the US to see them. You don't wait for Pearl Jam to come to you, You go to where they're playing. The days of long tours covering most every state are long gone. That's just the reality right now, at least the 2 show per city in major markets helps a little with travel cost. 

Carmen-M

Lot of folks are having problems with Ticket Master and payments plus some banks have registered TM as fraudulent.
Might be a good lesson for PJ not to team up with TM, the corporate greed company. PJ might lose some loyal fans because of this. 

Such a shame that the band has become what they fought against.

PJ_Soul

Carmen-M said:

Lot of folks are having problems with Ticket Master and payments plus some banks have registered TM as fraudulent.
Might be a good lesson for PJ not to team up with TM, the corporate greed company. PJ might lose some loyal fans because of this. 

Such a shame that the band has become what they fought against.

Where would PJ play if they weren't teamed up with TM? Dropping TM again would keep them out of almost every large venue in the world, lol. That's why they had to give up their fight against TM in the first place.

Lerxst1992

BF25394 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

kmcmanus said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Zod said:

MD190661 said:

kaw753 said:

MD190661 said:

kaw753 said:

hihobibo said:

JBob87 said:

One angle I didn't consider...you know there is going to be someone who accidentally wins 10 shows because of the elimination of priority.

I know it has always said "be prepared to be charged for everything" but with the old priority system there was always kind of a cap on what was realistic. 

In the old days you had to get them at will call too. Now you can just post them on F2F. So as long as someone can take the credit card hit for a month or so, someone can realistically sign up for every show knowing they can dump whatever they don't want pretty easily. It was very apparent last year that was the case, as you'd see people who all of a sudden "couldn't make it" for a show they just put in for a few weeks before, and post them up to F2F as soon as that option opened. The by-product of this is that it pushes out others who actually want to go further back, or not getting picked at all. 

Basically, the 10c tickets are now just a starting point and then you hit F2F to see if you can do better. Of the 6 pairs I won last tour, only my #6 pick were seats that didn't suck and/or I couldn't easily do better with 30 minutes of F5 on F2F.  It went from me being shutout in the lottery for two shows in South Carolina in 2016 to now pretty much getting picked for everything and not using what they are giving out.

Which is why I think it's still worth doing the lottery. I want GA for the show I picked. If I don't get that, maybe I'll get seats I like. If not, I'll find better ones at the F2F and sell my 10 Club. 

The people getting screwed with the no priority system are people in NYC, Philly, and Baltimore. I went from having 0% chance of getting those to the same as people who live beside the arenas who would have put them as #1 back in the day. I might have a 0.001% chance of getting GA for NYC, but....

I kind of wish they'd do a zip code thing for shows like MSG or other tough tickets. I know PJ is a travel band, but I think it should be easier for someone who lives within a few miles to get to tickets than me in CA. 

Would it help that much?  New York has almost 75% of the population of Canada within 100 miles of its city centre.   I think playing a bigger venue would help more

A four hour drive from NYC yields the population of Canada plus Australia. And also Almost nearly doubles the population of California (closer to 1.5x).

And you would still need to drive 2 more hours before you hit Syracuse but MSG is still our closest “local” show. New York is a big state beyond just NYC.

I’m just mentioning for a population comparison. So many shows in Cali, Vegas and AZ in recent years, but not many realize there is a much greater population density here on the east coast, despite California being the largest state. A land mass like that on the east coast would be at least double the Cali population

too bad we’d never get double the shows!

This is an exaggeration. You'd have to combine the population of all the coastal states from New York down to Georgia (plus non-coastal states PA and WV) to get to double the population of California (NY, NJ, PA, MD, DE, WV, VA, NC, SC and GA = 2xCA + ~3M). CA = ~ all six N.E. states plus NY and NJ. CA also = ~ MD, DE, WV, VA, NC, SC and GA combined.

They play a lot of shows in the West in part because they are from the West. The band is based in Seattle (duh, I know), but its members live primarily in or near Seattle, Los Angeles, Montana (and Hawai'i). 

There’s 23 million in the extended NYC metropolitan area. Now add extended metro areas of Bos, Philly, Balt, DC, and you’re over 40 million. Now include all the points in between in a four hour drive, which even includes our beloved Syracuse, Hartford, Providence, Albany, You’re very close to sixty, and nowhere near Georgia. (Edit, the double comment was in reference to the land mass of Cali, overlay the square miles of Cali onto the east coast and you’re pretty darn close to 80 mil; a 4 hour drive from NYC is 60 mil)

 

kevinaiden

See you on the 29th
woohoooooooo

Klesnerk

Woot!!!!!  Scored
2x Berlin Night 1 GA
2x Berlin Night 2 GA
2x Barca Night 1 GA
2x Barca Night 2 GA
2x Auckland GA

May have to reduce my US requests. Best of luck to all 10c seeking tics.

jagerweis

On some of the more in-demand shows, is it better to submit for only 1 ticket instead of 2 or is it not going to impact my chances either way?

Lerxst1992

jagerweis said:

On some of the more in-demand shows, is it better to submit for only 1 ticket instead of 2 or is it not going to impact my chances either way?

For the west coast you may not need to as LA and other shows had alot of good options and a lot of premium tickets were downgraded to standard as the shows approached.

For the east shows it could help if there are singles available as the tickets are allocated. For a show like MSG or Phil probably doesn’t matter.  Fenway it may help. If going for a multi show city, you could try for one on N1 and two on N2.