Dark Matter World Tour 2024

Tjm007

HZ245969 said:

After sleeping a night to think about the ticket prices for a show, I'm not willing to pay 175€ as a Ten Club member. Like many others, I've been a fan my whole life. I traveled all across Europe to see the shows. I stood in line for hours to buy shirts and posters and to get a place in front of the stage. The fact that you now want 175€ from the most loyal fans in the world is a slap in the face. This has nothing to do with the values that you always tell your fans like a mantra. This is really a big disappointment.

Don't be sad its over - be glad it happened.

Sit in your garden in the sun with a beer and listen to the new album - it will likely be more enjoyable than a football stadium gig.

romannosaint

Kiwigirlnz101 said:

While I get the ticket prices are high, I am more annoyed that you have pre register, and then you have wait in some sort of lottery like we are some sort of part time Taylor swift fan?  I mean let’s face it most of us are in our 30, 40, 50's who are going to these shows.   WE just want to buy the ticket and know where we are sitting or standing.... it’s greed and madness 

Couldn’t agree more. The whole ticket business is farcical these days, I remember when all you did was buy a ticket for the stands or the pitch if you wanted the front you got in early. 

Prices are becoming ridiculous, two artists spring to mind who claimed to be ‘in touch’ with their fan base- Pearl Jam (remember when they went to war with Ticketmaster) & Springsteen are now charging extortionate prices making it hard for many to justify in these challenging financial conditions. 

In saying that I may well consider going to London if I secure a GA ticket but that will depend on travel costs from Scotland, who have been ignored yet again!

Spags

Just tried to go in for the Berlin shows but it won't let me add any tickets. Anybody have a fix for that? I went in using the TC link and everything!

andrewgepearce

So, not only does the London gig clash with Glastonbury, but also Green Day (also playing in London). Not very well thought out.

The bigger problem was the price - £157 a ticket. £157!!!!!! Shocking. PJ should be embarrassed by this. The last tickets for the 21 London Gig (moved to 22 because of Covid) was £87. An 80% price increase. Really poor.

Planet of Sound

bertan said:

LostDog_72 said:

bertan said:

Just to be absolutely sure. For the London show, if we apply for "GA or seated" and end up getting seated tickets, we have the option to sell them through Ticketmaster Fan-to-Fan, right?

Yes, but how easy they are to sell will depend on where the seats are

Thank you

Depending on your seniority, if you’re assigned a bad seat you might make a big loss doing this.

JackD.

il vecchio said:

JackD. said:

Gravey1975 said:

CornishMan said:

I've read everything over and over and I'm still a bit confused about when seniority kicks in if you selected a ticket option that could be standing OR seated such as London & Manchester.

Obviously it is a lottery just to get into the building.  But.... assuming you win that lottery does it mean that members with the lowest 10C numbers will be automatically allocated standing, while the higher 10C numbers will be seated?

OR, is it totally random whether you get allocated seated or standing? (With your 10C number then determining how good your seats are if you're given seats).

That my friend is definitely not clear. And I don't think anybody really knows. My guess would be that it'll only kick in for seat allocation. But that's just a guess.

I had the same confusion but tried to explain it to myself with sense:

Senority doesn‘t play a role in the lottery. You win or lose depending on availability not senority.

If you won and chose „GA or Seating“ they would start giving away GA. Why? Cause it would be implausible to give away Seating if others chose only that and GA is still available. If GA is gone, people who chose „GA or Seating“ or „Only Seating“ are in the same ballot and get seats by senority once they won.

So: Draw for „GA or Seating“ > give all the winners GA > Put losers in the ballot with „Only Seating“ > draw again > give winners seats by senority

this looks alright to me, but is just your guess, no official or insight info right?

Just my guess, but everything else would be dumb. Which doesn‘t mean I‘m right, unfortunately.

Gravey1975

LizJ said:

PJ_Soul said:

LizJ said:

Ok, so do I understand this correctly?

If I only want GA-tickets, I need to try the public sale, as there is no "GA only"- option (at least for the shows I want to see) for 10C?

And if I would want GA with early entry, then my only chances are either finding someone that had luck geting GA in the 10C draw and would be looking for a ticket buddy or finding 10C-GA-tickets on F2F, right?

If you're not in North America, and want tox for shows where the whole floor is GA, yeah. But where there is just a GA pit (like in all of North America, and apparently in London too, and maybe other places), tix won't be available in the general sale. They are for 10C members only. There is literally no way to just go for GA tix anymore, unfortunately.

I am completely confused by this whole process.
Question concerning the GA PIT: In London the floor is "GA PIT" and "Front Standing" area. So which area are you refering to, when you say that "they are for 10C members only" and "won´t be available in the general sale"?

I think front standing is the 10C ballot and exclusive to 10C members. However, those that don't get those tickets in the ballot will get seating instead, rather than GA pit tickets. So it's shit or bust - you get front standing or else you're worse off than if you were in the public sale. At least, that's my interpretation.

bertan

andrewgepearce said:

So, not only does the London gig clash with Glastonbury, but also Green Day (also playing in London). Not very well thought out.

The bigger problem was the price - £157 a ticket. £157!!!!!! Shocking. PJ should be embarrassed by this. The last tickets for the 21 London Gig (moved to 22 because of Covid) was £87. An 80% price increase. Really poor.

Don't forget the £2.75 handling fee

JT167846

Yeah I don't dig that-that is my interpretation too.

bertan

Planet of Sound said:

bertan said:

LostDog_72 said:

bertan said:

Just to be absolutely sure. For the London show, if we apply for "GA or seated" and end up getting seated tickets, we have the option to sell them through Ticketmaster Fan-to-Fan, right?

Yes, but how easy they are to sell will depend on where the seats are

Thank you

Depending on your seniority, if you’re assigned a bad seat you might make a big loss doing this.

Yeah thanks for the reminder. I've never gone for seated tickets so I have no experience with seniority. I've been a 10C member since 2004, I understand nothing is certain with these things, but would that get me decent seats in general? Any experience?

LostDog_72

LizJ said:

PJ_Soul said:

LizJ said:

Ok, so do I understand this correctly?

If I only want GA-tickets, I need to try the public sale, as there is no "GA only"- option (at least for the shows I want to see) for 10C?

And if I would want GA with early entry, then my only chances are either finding someone that had luck geting GA in the 10C draw and would be looking for a ticket buddy or finding 10C-GA-tickets on F2F, right?

If you're not in North America, and want tox for shows where the whole floor is GA, yeah. But where there is just a GA pit (like in all of North America, and apparently in London too, and maybe other places), tix won't be available in the general sale. They are for 10C members only. There is literally no way to just go for GA tix anymore, unfortunately.

I am completely confused by this whole process.
Question concerning the GA PIT: In London the floor is "GA PIT" and "Front Standing" area. So which area are you refering to, when you say that "they are for 10C members only" and "won´t be available in the general sale"?

If you look at the attached picture, you will see a purple area ("Front Standing") and blue areas (Seats). The purple area is the "pit" that is only available via 10C membership (entry will likely be controlled by a wrist band).

The "GA Pit" (in grey) will be sold during the general sale that starts on Feb 23rd - it will also be standing, but obviously further back.

The challenge with this sale is that if you choose the first option ("Front Standing or Reserved") you have no guarantee where you will end up. You could be lucky and get Front Standing, but you could end up with seats instead, and which seats will be determined by membership priority - i.e. lower 10C membership number = better seats. So £160 could get you right at the front, or almost at the back......

If you go for the second option "Reserved Only - seating" then you will obviously only be trying for a seat - but the membership priority point still applies.

Hope this helps.

Planet of Sound

bertan said:

Planet of Sound said:

bertan said:

LostDog_72 said:

bertan said:

Just to be absolutely sure. For the London show, if we apply for "GA or seated" and end up getting seated tickets, we have the option to sell them through Ticketmaster Fan-to-Fan, right?

Yes, but how easy they are to sell will depend on where the seats are

Thank you

Depending on your seniority, if you’re assigned a bad seat you might make a big loss doing this.

Yeah thanks for the reminder. I've never gone for seated tickets so I have no experience with seniority. I've been a 10C member since 2004, I understand nothing is certain with these things, but would that get me decent seats in general? Any experience?

I’d have thought you’d at least be in the better half of the seats, yes, but who knows actually how many seats are for 10C in each section other than Ticketmaster.

Zen23

"Fans who are unable to use their tickets can sell them via Ticketmaster Resale at the price they originally paid. However, you must have a valid bank account or debit card in the country of the event(s) in order to sell your ticket."

Why? Why does Ticketmaster take my money with open arms when I pay tickets in another country with a ING Visa credit card, but refuses to give me my money back when I want to resell my tickets?

LizJ

LostDog_72 said:

LizJ said:

PJ_Soul said:

LizJ said:

Ok, so do I understand this correctly?

If I only want GA-tickets, I need to try the public sale, as there is no "GA only"- option (at least for the shows I want to see) for 10C?

And if I would want GA with early entry, then my only chances are either finding someone that had luck geting GA in the 10C draw and would be looking for a ticket buddy or finding 10C-GA-tickets on F2F, right?

If you're not in North America, and want tox for shows where the whole floor is GA, yeah. But where there is just a GA pit (like in all of North America, and apparently in London too, and maybe other places), tix won't be available in the general sale. They are for 10C members only. There is literally no way to just go for GA tix anymore, unfortunately.

I am completely confused by this whole process.
Question concerning the GA PIT: In London the floor is "GA PIT" and "Front Standing" area. So which area are you refering to, when you say that "they are for 10C members only" and "won´t be available in the general sale"?

If you look at the attached picture, you will see a purple area ("Front Standing") and blue areas (Seats). The purple area is the "pit" that is only available via 10C membership (entry will likely be controlled by a wrist band).

The "GA Pit" (in grey) will be sold during the general sale that starts on Feb 23rd - it will also be standing, but obviously further back.

The challenge with this sale is that if you choose the first option ("Front Standing or Reserved") you have no guarantee where you will end up. You could be lucky and get Front Standing, but you could end up with seats instead, and which seats will be determined by membership priority - i.e. lower 10C membership number = better seats. So £160 could get you right at the front, or almost at the back......

If you go for the second option "Reserved Only - seating" then you will obviously only be trying for a seat - but the membership priority point still applies.

Hope this helps.

Thank you! 

I was not aware/forgot that FOS is for 10C members only. 

As I do not want to end up with bad seats (and I wouldn’t be able to sell them, as I don’t have a bank account in the UK), that means I can’t apply for tickets through the Ten Club. 

Only option: Find another 10C member with a spare GA-ticket (either ticket buddy or through F2F).

This new system…

Sarava

Is priority no longer a thing for selecting shows? I tried to put MSG 2 as my top priority, and MSG2 as my 2nd choice, but when I go to checkout, it orders them by date.

Planet of Sound

Sarava said:

Is priority no longer a thing for selecting shows? I tried to put MSG 2 as my top priority, and MSG2 as my 2nd choice, but when I go to checkout, it orders them by date.

No longer a thing, was in the FAQs.

Sarava

Planet of Sound said:

Sarava said:

Is priority no longer a thing for selecting shows? I tried to put MSG 2 as my top priority, and MSG2 as my 2nd choice, but when I go to checkout, it orders them by date.

No longer a thing, was in the FAQs.

ahh, thanks

BlueLedbetter

Will we know if we have GA or seating when we get the successful email or need to wait until tickets are assigned?

Spags

Spags said:

Just tried to go in for the Berlin shows but it won't let me add any tickets. Anybody have a fix for that? I went in using the TC link and everything!

Anybody else get to this screen but it doesn't let you click the big blue plus sign to change the number of tickets? 

*Anger intensifies*

Lerxst1992

LostDog_72 said:

yorkshirestone said:

23scidoo said:

broe01 said:

You guys actually think these prices are high?  They're really not.

You must be kidding..

They are high. Like 100gbp higher than Hyde park and, more direct comparison last o2 gigs in 2018.
They’re also high vs other acts 
I’m paying half this for foo fighters, green day this summer 

Exactly this.

The "P" in PJ now seems to stand for Premium.

Ticket prices are way higher than most other stadium or arena bands (in the UK at least), with no guarantee you will get a standing GA ticket. Recent examples: Foos, Green Day, GnR, Blur, Bruce Springsteen, Arctic Monkeys....

I've forked out £37 for Dark Matter on vinyl, when most vinyls are in the £20-25 range. 

I'm fully expecting tour shirts to be £50

At least here in the states, just checking two major tours, Springsteen and RHCP are both MUCH more expensive than PJ tickets. Maybe Europe is different? Plus both of these artists sell a ton of platinum and VIP. At least PJ doesn’t do VIP.

Many fans commenting here should consider that inflation in the US is around 20% over the last four years, and the concert industry was very hard hit by the pandemic.