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The Official 2024 TOUR Thread

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    RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 4,513
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,975
    edited January 12
    Spunkie said:
    Spunkie said:
    Go back to SWA or anything but wrestling 
    How about how PJ Touring impacts? If the Vitalogy foundation supports environment, indigenous, and homelessness, how does touring contribute to these problems? 

    Does the 2 days/city model encourage more flight pollution and short-term rentals that increase homelessness which disproportionate affects indigenous people?
    https://pearljam.com/vitalogy/carbon
    Do you think the entertainment industry effects short-term rentals which impacts those experiencing homelessness when people travel to shows rather than the show touring to them?
    I honestly don't know. I wish I had enough information to speak on it.
    I mean, I'm sure whenever there's a large event in any town the Airbnbs get flooded. 
    I know lots of cities are cracking down on them, but it seems to be more of trying to stem over tourism, like Amsterdam. 
    I wasn't aware of countries banning SROs for over-tourism. Here they are taking homes away from people who need them. 

    p.s.Thanks for your packing tip. I didn't know those things existed. Now I have to decide do I pick up some from Walmart down the road or save 10 bucks and have them shipped from China just for me? Fuck it, pack less, maybe just old clothes (mostly).
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    amberstraughnamberstraughn Maryland Posts: 8
    "...the second song, titled Dark Matter, is an acoustic ballad" This makes my astronomer heart exceedingly happy :) 
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    jamofpearlsjamofpearls Florence, AL Posts: 347
    Spunkie said:
    Spunkie said:
    Spunkie said:
    Go back to SWA or anything but wrestling 
    How about how PJ Touring impacts? If the Vitalogy foundation supports environment, indigenous, and homelessness, how does touring contribute to these problems? 

    Does the 2 days/city model encourage more flight pollution and short-term rentals that increase homelessness which disproportionate affects indigenous people?
    https://pearljam.com/vitalogy/carbon
    Do you think the entertainment industry effects short-term rentals which impacts those experiencing homelessness when people travel to shows rather than the show touring to them?
    I honestly don't know. I wish I had enough information to speak on it.
    I mean, I'm sure whenever there's a large event in any town the Airbnbs get flooded. 
    I know lots of cities are cracking down on them, but it seems to be more of trying to stem over tourism, like Amsterdam. 
    I wasn't aware of countries banning SROs for over-tourism. Here they are taking homes away from people who need them. 

    p.s.Thanks for your packing tip I didn't know those things existed.
    Yeah, no problem! The ones I got double zip down to really compress.
    When you say taking away from those that need them, are you referring to investors buying up property?
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    Ed Solo: 17-Louisville
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,975
    edited January 12
    It's that yeah investment properties it's also anyone that owns a second home that rents it out to short-term rentals rather than long-term people. Because there's not enough housing for everyone, people that are opioid addicts aren't getting housed because obviously you'd rather a student or a 9 to 5er renting your place right0
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,975
    edited January 12
    "...the second song, titled Dark Matter, is an acoustic ballad" This makes my astronomer heart exceedingly happy :) 
    Ahhh.. thought they messed up on neuroscience gray matter lol. Or referred to difficult things...

    The astronomy aspect makes much more sense given their recent foray with Quick Escape and space camp!
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    demetriosdemetrios Canada Posts: 88,959
    The Rock said:
    All the wrestling fans speaking up now 😅

    Huge 80's & '90s wrestling fan. Today's WWE wrestling, especially the last decade or so .. is not so good. 
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    darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 5,934
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
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    just_onejust_one Lisbon Posts: 2,039
    demetrios said:
    The Rock said:
    All the wrestling fans speaking up now 😅

    Huge 80's & '90s wrestling fan. Today's WWE wrestling, especially the last decade or so .. is not so good. 
    Have u tried watching aew? Its better than wwe
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    iwasatpj20iwasatpj20 Rockford, IL Posts: 3,352
    demetrios said:
    The Rock said:
    All the wrestling fans speaking up now 😅

    Huge 80's & '90s wrestling fan. Today's WWE wrestling, especially the last decade or so .. is not so good. 
    Wrestling hasn’t been good since the Attitude Era and Ruthless Aggression.
    2000 - Chicago, IL
    2003 - Champaign, IL
    2006 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
    2007 - Chicago, IL Lollapalooza
    2009 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
    2010 - St. Louis, MO
    2011 - East Troy, WI 1 & 2 (PJ20 Destination Weekend)
    2012 - Atlanta, GA, Missoula, MT
    2013 - Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field), Dallas, TX, Oklahoma City, OK
    2014 - St. Louis, MO, Tulsa, OK, Moline, IL (No Code, IL), Saint Paul, MN, Milwaukee, WI (Yield, WI)
    2016 - Greenville, SC (Vs, SC), Raleigh, NC, Columbia, SC, Boston, MA (Fenway Park 1), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)
    2018 - Seattle, WA (Safeco Field 2), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2), Boston, MA (Fenway Park 2)
    2020 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, ??
    2022 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, Las Vegas, NV
    2023 - St. Paul, MN 2, Fort Worth, TX 2, Austin, TX 1, and Austin, TX 2
    2024 - Portland, OR and Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)


    2012 - Temple of the Dog East Troy, WI (PJ20 Destination Weekend)
    2014 - Soundgarden Tinley Park, IL (with Nine Inch Nails)
    2014 - Alice in Chains Davenport, IA
    2016 - Chris Cornell Solo Madison, WI and Peoria, IL (official hometown show)
    2016 - Temple of the Dog San Francisco, CA (both shows)
    2017 - Soundgarden Dallas (cancelled) RIP Chris Cornell
    2018 - Smashing Pumpkins Chicago, IL (first show)
    2019 - Alice in Chains Milwaukee, WI
    2022 - Jerry Cantrell Chicago, IL
    2023 - Jerry Cantrell Milwaukee, WI

    RIP Andrew Wood, Kurt Cobain, Layne Staley, and Chris Cornell

    RIP Mom (may your star shine the brightest in the sky, our family loves and misses you very much, we'll meet again)

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    elvistheking44elvistheking44 Posts: 4,296
    Not sure if this is serious or not, I’m not up in the spam sites but that article is from the first of December 
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    Luckytwn1Luckytwn1 Posts: 510
    Not sure if this is serious or not, I’m not up in the spam sites but that article is from the first of December 
    That article is from today as the year indicates. 12/1/2024 is January 12, 2024 in Europe and they are an Italian site
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    just_onejust_one Lisbon Posts: 2,039
    Luckytwn1 said:
    Not sure if this is serious or not, I’m not up in the spam sites but that article is from the first of December 
    That article is from today as the year indicates. 12/1/2024 is January 12, 2024 in Europe and they are an Italian site
    And a very reliable one. When there is italian dates, they usually are the ones who start the whole rumours around european toura.didnt happen this year because the band doesnt come to italy
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    njhaley1njhaley1 Valley of the Sun Posts: 305
    just_one said:
    Luckytwn1 said:
    Not sure if this is serious or not, I’m not up in the spam sites but that article is from the first of December 
    That article is from today as the year indicates. 12/1/2024 is January 12, 2024 in Europe and they are an Italian site
    And a very reliable one. When there is italian dates, they usually are the ones who start the whole rumours around european toura.didnt happen this year because the band doesnt come to italy
    The sight is run by someone in the forum, is it not? 
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    RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 4,513
    It’s funny how there are three topics running now - wrestling, BC’s housing policies, and dubious source of info on new songs.  All good, it’s just funny watching multiple conversations happen in the thread and none of them are tour rumors.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
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    Atlanta! It’s been 11 years! Heck, it’s been 20 since a non festival show! That’s insane!
    Atlanta is beyond due a two or 3 night run at this point 
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    BR223133BR223133 Posts: 86
    It’s funny how there are three topics running now - wrestling, BC’s housing policies, and dubious source of info on new songs.  All good, it’s just funny watching multiple conversations happen in the thread and none of them are tour rumors.  
    Yup, gutted
    1992: 7/25 Denver, CO (Lollapalooza)
    1993: 11/30 Las Vegas, NV (Vault #5) - 12/1 Las Vegas, NV
    1998: 7/11 Las Vegas, NV
    2000: 10/22 Las Vegas, NV (10th anniversary)
    2003: 4/1 Denver, CO
    2006: 7/3 Denver, CO
    2014: 10/22 Denver, CO
    2020: 4/11 Phoenix, AZ
    2022: 5/9 Phoenix, AZ - 5/20 Las Vegas, NV

    Eddie Vedder/Earthlings
    2022: 10/7 Las Vegas, NV
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    RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 4,513
    ecarlson8 said:
    Atlanta! It’s been 11 years! Heck, it’s been 20 since a non festival show! That’s insane!
    Atlanta is beyond due a two or 3 night run at this point 
    Atlanta is probably more likely to get Bill Belichick than PJ.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,975
    BR223133 said:
    It’s funny how there are three topics running now - wrestling, BC’s housing policies, and dubious source of info on new songs.  All good, it’s just funny watching multiple conversations happen in the thread and none of them are tour rumors.  
    Yup, gutted
    Where people stay during the tour is relevant, n'est ce que pas?
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    RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 4,513
    Spunkie said:
    BR223133 said:
    It’s funny how there are three topics running now - wrestling, BC’s housing policies, and dubious source of info on new songs.  All good, it’s just funny watching multiple conversations happen in the thread and none of them are tour rumors.  
    Yup, gutted
    Where people stay during the tour is relevant, n'est ce que pas?
    True.  I just meant it wasn’t any new info or confirmation of dates.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
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    deb1211deb1211 Posts: 1,310
    ecarlson8 said:
    Atlanta! It’s been 11 years! Heck, it’s been 20 since a non festival show! That’s insane!
    Atlanta is beyond due a two or 3 night run at this point 
    Atlanta is probably more likely to get Bill Belichick than PJ.  
    Bite your tongue
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    RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 4,513
    deb1211 said:
    ecarlson8 said:
    Atlanta! It’s been 11 years! Heck, it’s been 20 since a non festival show! That’s insane!
    Atlanta is beyond due a two or 3 night run at this point 
    Atlanta is probably more likely to get Bill Belichick than PJ.  
    Bite your tongue
    He’s a great coach
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
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    ZodZod Posts: 10,408
    edited January 13
    just_one said:
    demetrios said:
    The Rock said:
    All the wrestling fans speaking up now 😅

    Huge 80's & '90s wrestling fan. Today's WWE wrestling, especially the last decade or so .. is not so good. 
    Have u tried watching aew? Its better than wwe

    We've been watching AEW for a while now. I feel like the sweet spot would be between AEW and WWE.   AEW is really good at having wrestling matches, but there not as good with sports entertainment.  Plus they don't have as many big characters.  WWE is good at having big characters, but they're a little too sports entertainment.

    I've been leaning a bit back to WWE lately, but my wife religiously loves AEW.

    To sync this back into this thread, could you imagine being a pro-wrestler?  On the road almost every week of the year, always traveling and sleeping in hotels.  It's like be a musician on steroids.
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    ZodZod Posts: 10,408
    ComeToTX said:
    We have a similar law here and it does nothing to deter Airbnb’s. The fine isn’t enough to worry about for homeowners making a ton from their rentals. 

    It's working here.  Many of the AirBNB's are going back up for sale.   It really only impacted condo type units, you can still airbnb a suite in your house.    I think the big part here is it was made provincial law.  AirBNB has to comply with it, so it's that much harder to even list one now.

    It's going to suck for concert road trips.   We already had a hotel shortage, hotel prices are going to the moon :(
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    The RockThe Rock Posts: 1,432
    Zod said:
    just_one said:
    demetrios said:
    The Rock said:
    All the wrestling fans speaking up now 😅

    Huge 80's & '90s wrestling fan. Today's WWE wrestling, especially the last decade or so .. is not so good. 
    Have u tried watching aew? Its better than wwe

    We've been watching AEW for a while now. I feel like the sweet spot would be between AEW and WWE.   AEW is really good at having wrestling matches, but there not as good with sports entertainment.  Plus they don't have as many big characters.  WWE is good at having big characters, but they're a little too sports entertainment.

    I've been leaning a bit back to WWE lately, but my wife religiously loves AEW.

    To sync this back into this thread, could you imagine being a pro-wrestler?  On the road almost every week of the year, always traveling and sleeping in hotels.  It's like be a musician on steroids.
    I've been following mainly AEW since 2021 when Danielson showed up. I agree with what you're saying about a sweet spot in the middle. 

    I feel like 2000 was the year where WWE cracked it. The Attitude Era was still cooking but there was more emphasis on good matches and the talent pool was unreal. 

    I've also been watching WWE a bit more lately because of Punk going back there and then my guy Rock showing up 😁
    2006: London Astoria, Lisbon I & II, Paris, Verona, Milano
    2007: Wembley, Dusseldorf, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
    2009: Manchester
    2010: Belfast, Berlin
    2012: Manchester I & II
    2014: Leeds, Milton Keynes
    2018: Amsterdam I, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Barcelona, London
    2022: Berlin, Budapest, Krakow, Amsterdam II
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    EraserheadEraserhead Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 2,902
    demetrios said:
    The Rock said:
    All the wrestling fans speaking up now 😅

    Huge 80's & '90s wrestling fan. Today's WWE wrestling, especially the last decade or so .. is not so good. 

    Not watched WWE since Jericho left.

    You know what happens Ed when you don't confirm your band's tour dates? Do you? Do you know what happens?! *clicks pen* Eddie Vedder - you just made The List!
    Manchester 04.06.00, Leeds 25.08.06, Wembley 18.06.07, Dusseldorf 21.06.07, Shepherds Bush 11.08.09, Manchester 17.08.09, Adelaide 17.11.09, Melbourne 20.11.09, Sydney 22.11.09, Brisbane 25.11.09, MSG1 20.05.10, MSG2 21.05.10, Dublin 22.06.10, Belfast 23.06.10, London 25.06.10, Long Beach 06.07.11 (EV), Los Angeles 08.07.11 (EV), Toronto 11.09.11, Toronto 12.09.11, Ottawa 14.09.11, Hamilton 14.09.11, Manchester 20.06.12, Manchester 21.06.12, Amsterdam 26.06.2012, Amsterdam 27.06.2012, Berlin 04.07.12, Berlin 05.07.12, Stockholm 07.07.12, Oslo 09.07.12, Copenhagen 10.07.12, Manchester 28.07.12 (EV), Brooklyn 18.10.13, Brooklyn 19.10.13, Philly 21.10.13, Philly 22.10.13, San Diego 21.11.13, LA 23.11.13, LA 24.11.13, Oakland 26.11.13, Portland 29.11.13, Spokane 30.11.13, Calgary 02.12.13, Vancouver 04.12.13, Seattle 06.12.13, Trieste 22.06.14, Vienna 25.06.14, Berlin 26.06.14, Stockholm 28.06.14, Leeds 08.07.14, Philly 28.04.16, Philly 28.04.16, MSG1 01.05.16, MSG2 02.05.16
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    jamofpearlsjamofpearls Florence, AL Posts: 347
    1. I watch AEW religiously. Its got some messy bits, but overall I love it.
    2. I do rent AirBNBs, but its really only when there's a group of us traveling together, like when we go to Shaky Knees. 
    3. If Pearl Jam were to play Atlanta this year, it would definitely be my luck they would do it when I'm out of town, and couldn't make that four hour drive.
    98-Birmingham, 00-Nashville, 03-Nashville, 12-Atlanta, 14-Memphis, 16-New Orleans, 18-Amsterdam, Night 1 & 2, 18-Seattle Night 2, 21-New Jersey, 22-Imola, 22-Nashville, 22-Louisville
    Ed Solo: 17-Louisville
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    YourDirtisMyfoodYourDirtisMyfood Boston Posts: 4,535
    If Pearl Jam plays Atlanta, Kings X should guest again on another song besides WMA, cause they'll never top it, but it would be cool to hear what they could do on another song.
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