Someone should correct me if I'm wrong but, to the best of my recollection, it has been a long time since Pearl Jam premiered a new original song or songs live before an album release. We all remember multiple songs that ended up on Vitalogy debuting live on the Vs. tour, including "Corduroy," "Immortality," "Whipping," "Satan's Bed" and "Better Man." But-- again, as best I can remember-- for the last several albums, new songs have been embargoed live until album release. (Set aside new songs that were played live but then never appeared on a studio album, like "Of the Earth.") Unless they do a surprise album drop this Friday or next, shows in late January would predate the album release (and it wouldn't make sense to have a listening party on January 31 if the album had dropped already) so something would have to give.
LB & Future Days played live before LB release. Supersonic played live before Backspacer release. Comatose (AKA Crapshoot Rapture) & Gone played live before S/T release. I Am Mine, Thumbing My Way, etc. played before Riot Act release.
Etc, etc...
"I like beautiful melodies telling me terrible things" - Tom Waits pearljamonline.it
The Bulls never won anything without Krause, before and after him. Rebuilding since 1998
I'm not here to cast aspersions on Jerry Krause, who deserves his share of credit for the success that occurred on his watch, but this statement is also true if you substitute "Jordan" for "Krause."
Or Pippen. Or Phil.
But Jordan was going to win championships no matter who was running the team. (Though maybe not 6 straight in the years he played). It's far less certain Krause would have won any without MJ
3 "secret" preview shows in L.A. at a historic (and incredibly small) venue in West Hollywood, at the end of January. Might be some local 10club people offered tickets, but will be 90% friends and industry people. This will be before the listening party.
The Troubadour January 28-29-30.
I used to live 1,000 feet from there. It would be amazing to see them in that space.
I will be in L.A. 27-29 my cousin has a gig at the Teragram. So make this happen
3 "secret" preview shows in L.A. at a historic (and incredibly small) venue in West Hollywood, at the end of January. Might be some local 10club people offered tickets, but will be 90% friends and industry people. This will be before the listening party.
The Troubadour January 28-29-30.
I used to live 1,000 feet from there. It would be amazing to see them in that space.
I will be in L.A. 27-29 my cousin has a gig at the Teragram. So make this happen
Someone should correct me if I'm wrong but, to the best of my recollection, it has been a long time since Pearl Jam premiered a new original song or songs live before an album release. We all remember multiple songs that ended up on Vitalogy debuting live on the Vs. tour, including "Corduroy," "Immortality," "Whipping," "Satan's Bed" and "Better Man." But-- again, as best I can remember-- for the last several albums, new songs have been embargoed live until album release. (Set aside new songs that were played live but then never appeared on a studio album, like "Of the Earth.") Unless they do a surprise album drop this Friday or next, shows in late January would predate the album release (and it wouldn't make sense to have a listening party on January 31 if the album had dropped already) so something would have to give.
LB & Future Days played live before LB release. Supersonic played live before Backspacer release. Comatose (AKA Crapshoot Rapture) & Gone played live before S/T release. I Am Mine, Thumbing My Way, etc. played before Riot Act release.
Etc, etc...
I appreciate the detailed responses, but I wasn't saying they've never done this. I cited five examples from Vitalogy. The point was that it is something they have rarely done since the advent of smartphones and YouTube. In the past fifteen years, we've got one performance each of "Lightning Bolt" and "Future Days" and two performances of "Mind Your Manners" and "Supersonic" (not including performances that were within a week of album release; the Lightning Bolt tour started four days before the album came out and they played those tracks at those shows).
But, having said that, the fact that it is been done even just these few times during this period does show that they don't have a hard-and-fast rule. It all seems to point to a release sooner (i.e., February) rather than later (i.e., April)-- although I'll still squat on April 5 in the release date pool since I laid that marker down a long time ago and will be happy to be wrong.
Someone should correct me if I'm wrong but, to the best of my recollection, it has been a long time since Pearl Jam premiered a new original song or songs live before an album release. We all remember multiple songs that ended up on Vitalogy debuting live on the Vs. tour, including "Corduroy," "Immortality," "Whipping," "Satan's Bed" and "Better Man." But-- again, as best I can remember-- for the last several albums, new songs have been embargoed live until album release. (Set aside new songs that were played live but then never appeared on a studio album, like "Of the Earth.") Unless they do a surprise album drop this Friday or next, shows in late January would predate the album release (and it wouldn't make sense to have a listening party on January 31 if the album had dropped already) so something would have to give.
LB & Future Days played live before LB release. Supersonic played live before Backspacer release. Comatose (AKA Crapshoot Rapture) & Gone played live before S/T release. I Am Mine, Thumbing My Way, etc. played before Riot Act release.
Etc, etc...
I appreciate the detailed responses, but I wasn't saying they've never done this. I cited five examples from Vitalogy. The point was that it is something they have rarely done since the advent of smartphones and YouTube. In the past fifteen years, we've got one performance each of "Lightning Bolt" and "Future Days" and two performances of "Mind Your Manners" and "Supersonic" (not including performances that were within a week of album release; the Lightning Bolt tour started four days before the album came out and they played those tracks at those shows).
But, having said that, the fact that it is been done even just these few times during this period does show that they don't have a hard-and-fast rule. It all seems to point to a release sooner (i.e., February) rather than later (i.e., April)-- although I'll still squat on April 5 in the release date pool since I laid that marker down a long time ago and will be happy to be wrong.
What do you win in this pool? I had no idea there actually was one.
Also, people still recorded and shared most of the ‘few’ examples of them playing new songs before the release and the band knew this would happen.
Do leaks even matter? Most people don't buy music anymore, and the people that do are going to buy it regardless.
I'm just saying that they used to do this a lot more pre-YouTube/smartphone, and it seems that they have done it very infrequently since then. (Granted, they have only released three albums in the 18-year era of the smartphone.)
I would think it is more about scale. Bootleg recordings pre-YouTube were less accessible. People had to work harder and possibly pay to obtain them. Now a video of a performance of a new song goes up immediately for free where anyone who wants can see it. I can see why they might be more inclined to embargo new stuff in that environment.
The band played material from Yield while opening for the Rolling Stones and as the Honking Seals later that week. To the original point: yes when touring cycles were more frequently aligned with album releases (and albums were being released more often) we’d often hear new material live before a release.
To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
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I think their touring and recording schedule plays a big role in limiting new unreleased songs live. They were doing a lot of touring and writing, often recording, while on tour back then. They also had a pretty limited song pool in 94/95, so room in set list to try new ones and audience wanted to hear new stuff as well.
I think their touring and recording schedule plays a big role in limiting new unreleased songs live. They were doing a lot of touring and writing, often recording, while on tour back then. They also had a pretty limited song pool in 94/95, so room in set list to try new ones and audience wanted to hear new stuff as well.
Getting frustrated in waiting for the tour dates. With flights hotels etc booked for the summer leaving it this late may cause problems if you intend being at a few shows on the tour. Europe I mean. I am not bothered by new album news that will take care of itself but just hoping for the various cities I love to see them play in.
Berlin 30/06/10, Amsterdam 26/06/12, Amsterdam 27/06/12, Berlin 4/07/12, Berlin 5/07/12 Brooklyn NYC 18/10/13, Brooklyn NYC 19/10/13, Philadelphia 21/10/13, Philadelphia 22/10/13, Amsterdam 16/06/14, Amsterdam 17/06/14, Vienna 25/06/14, Berlin 26/06/14, Amsterdam 12/06/18, Amsterdam 13/06/18, London 18/06/18, Prague 01/07/18, Berlin 05/07/18, Barcelona 10/07/18, Berlin 21/06/22, Zurich 23/06/22, Copenhagen 5/07/22, Budapest 12/07/22, Amsterdam 25/07/22
Getting frustrated in waiting for the tour dates. With flights hotels etc booked for the summer leaving it this late may cause problems if you intend being at a few shows on the tour. Europe I mean. I am not bothered by new album news that will take care of itself but just hoping for the various cities I love to see them play in.
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Supersonic played live before Backspacer release.
Comatose (AKA Crapshoot Rapture) & Gone played live before S/T release.
I Am Mine, Thumbing My Way, etc. played before Riot Act release.
Etc, etc...
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it then and you’ll be less disappointed for the next 29 days.
But Jordan was going to win championships no matter who was running the team. (Though maybe not 6 straight in the years he played). It's far less certain Krause would have won any without MJ
So make this happen
But, having said that, the fact that it is been done even just these few times during this period does show that they don't have a hard-and-fast rule. It all seems to point to a release sooner (i.e., February) rather than later (i.e., April)-- although I'll still squat on April 5 in the release date pool since I laid that marker down a long time ago and will be happy to be wrong.
Also, people still recorded and shared most of the ‘few’ examples of them playing new songs before the release and the band knew this would happen.
I would think it is more about scale. Bootleg recordings pre-YouTube were less accessible. People had to work harder and possibly pay to obtain them. Now a video of a performance of a new song goes up immediately for free where anyone who wants can see it. I can see why they might be more inclined to embargo new stuff in that environment.
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore