Democrats

mrussel1

DE4173 said:

mrussel1 said:

Maybe you forgot Hillary and Harris were the ones that lost the general.  

My reply was to the stopping the nomination of women comment:


Hillary was nominated by voters in the Democratic primary for 2016.

Other times, fellow Democrats voters chose to vote for men in Democratic primaries.

I don't even know what you're trying to explain.  I was making a sarcastic comment that since we're acting like it's the end of the world after we lost one election, and Lex is calling out that we lost 2/3, that the problem was nominating women.  It was tongue in cheek.  

DE4173

Yes, my reply was (meant as) sarcasm as well:

Stop nominating women? You mean after that one time?

Lerxst1992

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

DE4173 said:

You might want someone to burst it for you.

Unfortunately for the dems, the Rs are masters at turning presidential elections into circus like culture wars, and then are masters at winning the argument and making dem mantra look foolish. We were all around last fall?

either dems begin to understand how the game is won, or let someone else play.

they've lost exactly one election in a row.  Give it a rest.

0.333 BA against trump, who probably would have coasted in 2020 had Covid not turned the election into a bizarre campaign from home for “Sleepy Joe.”

Maybe we need to stop nominating women?  You should run with that one.  Maybe that's the problem. 

I didn't realize Trump was going to run in every election forevermore.  Now that I know that, I am concerned.  But keep talking about what "would have" happened.  You have become really good at ungrounded statements.  

You were downplaying trumps victory. That smells like dem spirit. Grounded in a reality they don’t fare too well in. With a decent economic record, they were completely shut out of all branches of leadership by voters. I wouldn’t downplay that result.

Men winning elections is an unfortunate reality in this country. I don’t support that bias, but if it were my job to win elections, I’d sure as sh!t take notice of it. And 2020 basement campaigning wasn’t the most bizarre of political rallies ever? Since we are criticizing posters here, not recognizing that is extremely ungrounded.

HughFreakingDillon

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

DE4173 said:

You might want someone to burst it for you.

Unfortunately for the dems, the Rs are masters at turning presidential elections into circus like culture wars, and then are masters at winning the argument and making dem mantra look foolish. We were all around last fall?

either dems begin to understand how the game is won, or let someone else play.

some like to cherry pick. yes, in any given 12-16 year cycle, there is going to be two/three winners from one party and one/two winner from another. that cycle will continue. Go back one presidency, using your model, and dems are up 3-1. I guess 4 years ago we'd be saying that "republicans need to begin to understand how the game is won, or let someone else play"? Absurd. 

mrussel1

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

DE4173 said:

You might want someone to burst it for you.

Unfortunately for the dems, the Rs are masters at turning presidential elections into circus like culture wars, and then are masters at winning the argument and making dem mantra look foolish. We were all around last fall?

either dems begin to understand how the game is won, or let someone else play.

they've lost exactly one election in a row.  Give it a rest.

0.333 BA against trump, who probably would have coasted in 2020 had Covid not turned the election into a bizarre campaign from home for “Sleepy Joe.”

Maybe we need to stop nominating women?  You should run with that one.  Maybe that's the problem. 

I didn't realize Trump was going to run in every election forevermore.  Now that I know that, I am concerned.  But keep talking about what "would have" happened.  You have become really good at ungrounded statements.  

You were downplaying trumps victory. That smells like dem spirit. Grounded in a reality they don’t fare too well in. With a decent economic record, they were completely shut out of all branches of leadership by voters. I wouldn’t downplay that result.

Men winning elections is an unfortunate reality in this country. I don’t support that bias, but if it were my job to win elections, I’d sure as sh!t take notice of it. And 2020 basement campaigning wasn’t the most bizarre of political rallies ever? Since we are criticizing posters here, not recognizing that is extremely ungrounded.

Downplaying?  No, I'm saying Dems lost one election in a row which is empirically true.  They lost the one before but won two previous, prior to losing two previous.  Do you not remember in 2021 when everyone said Trump was dead, DeSantis was the future, even Fox?  Shit changes.  Everything looks bleak in the media until it doesn't.  I don't see you commenting on the Dems winning back both the House and Senate in PA last night.  The senate win was a major upset 

https://apnews.com/article/pennsylvania-democratic-party-donald-trump-election-094e907bd9af0d55a3ac76bb5e22d17c

Oh and here's the sub-lede from Fox:  The House race is the fifth straight special election that Democrats have won so far in 2025, despite the party performing dismally in public opinion polling since losing control of the White House and Senate, and failing to win back the House majority in the 2024 elections.

FiveBelow

Halifax2TheMax said:

mrussel1 said:

Who gives a fuck what one congress member said about the TX governor?  What a waste of time.  

Some, apparently.

Clearly. Here is how you prefaced an article you shared a couple weeks ago, you know, the one about a member of congress saying stupid shit about a TX congressman:

"Yup, unapologetic racists are members of the US congress. Nothing has changed."

Any issue with adding unapologetic ableists to the list of traits congress possesses? Since you seemingly do give a fuck about clickbait news. Well, as long as it doesn't involve casting team blue in a negative light, that is. Just another byproduct of our super-awesome duopoly. Go team!

Halifax2TheMax

FiveBelow said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mrussel1 said:

Who gives a fuck what one congress member said about the TX governor?  What a waste of time.  

Some, apparently.

Clearly. Here is how you prefaced an article you shared a couple weeks ago, you know, the one about a member of congress saying stupid shit about a TX congressman:

"Yup, unapologetic racists are members of the US congress. Nothing has changed."

Any issue with adding unapologetic ableists to the list of traits congress possesses? Since you seemingly do give a fuck about clickbait news. Well, as long as it doesn't involve casting team blue in a negative light, that is. Just another byproduct of our super-awesome duopoly. Go team!

Chimp graphic is cool. Do you disagree with the bold?

The point I was making is that Lorena Bobbitt wasn’t censured for her previous behaviour on the floor of the house nor her pimp comments. Nor was there faux rage exhibited. Then she doubled down on her pimp comments and the black congressman was censured and it was crickets on here. Fast forward to another black Congress person making degrading statements, which gets attention, and when she further clarifies her statement, it’s pointed out as if making a “see, both sides” comparison.

Only one side is held accountable or generates the faux rage. Glad you’re able to normalize it as clickbait and that my point was lost on you.

Happy days are here again!

Halifax2TheMax

I guess holding people accountable regardless of skin color is too woke, eh?

HughFreakingDillon

Halifax2TheMax said:

FiveBelow said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mrussel1 said:

Who gives a fuck what one congress member said about the TX governor?  What a waste of time.  

Some, apparently.

Clearly. Here is how you prefaced an article you shared a couple weeks ago, you know, the one about a member of congress saying stupid shit about a TX congressman:

"Yup, unapologetic racists are members of the US congress. Nothing has changed."

Any issue with adding unapologetic ableists to the list of traits congress possesses? Since you seemingly do give a fuck about clickbait news. Well, as long as it doesn't involve casting team blue in a negative light, that is. Just another byproduct of our super-awesome duopoly. Go team!

Chimp graphic is cool. Do you disagree with the bold?

The point I was making is that Lorena Bobbitt wasn’t censured for her previous behaviour on the floor of the house nor her pimp comments. Nor was there faux rage exhibited. Then she doubled down on her pimp comments and the black congressman was censured and it was crickets on here. Fast forward to another black Congress person making degrading statements, which gets attention, and when she further clarifies her statement, it’s pointed out as if making a “see, both sides” comparison.

Only one side is held accountable or generates the faux rage. Glad you’re able to normalize it as clickbait and that my point was lost on you.

Happy days are here again!

when trump gave his explanation for making fun of that reporter with that muscular condition, did we all take him at his word?

Halifax2TheMax

HughFreakingDillon said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

FiveBelow said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mrussel1 said:

Who gives a fuck what one congress member said about the TX governor?  What a waste of time.  

Some, apparently.

Clearly. Here is how you prefaced an article you shared a couple weeks ago, you know, the one about a member of congress saying stupid shit about a TX congressman:

"Yup, unapologetic racists are members of the US congress. Nothing has changed."

Any issue with adding unapologetic ableists to the list of traits congress possesses? Since you seemingly do give a fuck about clickbait news. Well, as long as it doesn't involve casting team blue in a negative light, that is. Just another byproduct of our super-awesome duopoly. Go team!

Chimp graphic is cool. Do you disagree with the bold?

The point I was making is that Lorena Bobbitt wasn’t censured for her previous behaviour on the floor of the house nor her pimp comments. Nor was there faux rage exhibited. Then she doubled down on her pimp comments and the black congressman was censured and it was crickets on here. Fast forward to another black Congress person making degrading statements, which gets attention, and when she further clarifies her statement, it’s pointed out as if making a “see, both sides” comparison.

Only one side is held accountable or generates the faux rage. Glad you’re able to normalize it as clickbait and that my point was lost on you.

Happy days are here again!

when trump gave his explanation for making fun of that reporter with that muscular condition, did we all take him at his word?

COOTWH doesn’t have a history of telling the truth, telling an average of 8-12 lies or mistruths per day for every day of his first term. It’s reasonable to dismiss his explanation or excuse. For the congresswoman, I don’t know her history of veracity. Regardless, if you’re going to call it out, call it out on both sides. That doesn’t happen but folks always blame Dems for taking the low road. Repubs have been normalized as low road hoarders with impunity.

HughFreakingDillon

Halifax2TheMax said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

FiveBelow said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mrussel1 said:

Who gives a fuck what one congress member said about the TX governor?  What a waste of time.  

Some, apparently.

Clearly. Here is how you prefaced an article you shared a couple weeks ago, you know, the one about a member of congress saying stupid shit about a TX congressman:

"Yup, unapologetic racists are members of the US congress. Nothing has changed."

Any issue with adding unapologetic ableists to the list of traits congress possesses? Since you seemingly do give a fuck about clickbait news. Well, as long as it doesn't involve casting team blue in a negative light, that is. Just another byproduct of our super-awesome duopoly. Go team!

Chimp graphic is cool. Do you disagree with the bold?

The point I was making is that Lorena Bobbitt wasn’t censured for her previous behaviour on the floor of the house nor her pimp comments. Nor was there faux rage exhibited. Then she doubled down on her pimp comments and the black congressman was censured and it was crickets on here. Fast forward to another black Congress person making degrading statements, which gets attention, and when she further clarifies her statement, it’s pointed out as if making a “see, both sides” comparison.

Only one side is held accountable or generates the faux rage. Glad you’re able to normalize it as clickbait and that my point was lost on you.

Happy days are here again!

when trump gave his explanation for making fun of that reporter with that muscular condition, did we all take him at his word?

COOTWH doesn’t have a history of telling the truth, telling an average of 8-12 lies or mistruths per day for every day of his first term. It’s reasonable to dismiss his explanation or excuse. For the congresswoman, I don’t know her history of veracity. Regardless, if you’re going to call it out, call it out on both sides. That doesn’t happen but folks always blame Dems for taking the low road. Repubs have been normalized as low road hoarders with impunity.

fine, trump's a bad example. I'm saying if all things were equal, a "normal" GOP Senator. You'd likely dismiss it as BS. 

Halifax2TheMax

HughFreakingDillon said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

FiveBelow said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mrussel1 said:

Who gives a fuck what one congress member said about the TX governor?  What a waste of time.  

Some, apparently.

Clearly. Here is how you prefaced an article you shared a couple weeks ago, you know, the one about a member of congress saying stupid shit about a TX congressman:

"Yup, unapologetic racists are members of the US congress. Nothing has changed."

Any issue with adding unapologetic ableists to the list of traits congress possesses? Since you seemingly do give a fuck about clickbait news. Well, as long as it doesn't involve casting team blue in a negative light, that is. Just another byproduct of our super-awesome duopoly. Go team!

Chimp graphic is cool. Do you disagree with the bold?

The point I was making is that Lorena Bobbitt wasn’t censured for her previous behaviour on the floor of the house nor her pimp comments. Nor was there faux rage exhibited. Then she doubled down on her pimp comments and the black congressman was censured and it was crickets on here. Fast forward to another black Congress person making degrading statements, which gets attention, and when she further clarifies her statement, it’s pointed out as if making a “see, both sides” comparison.

Only one side is held accountable or generates the faux rage. Glad you’re able to normalize it as clickbait and that my point was lost on you.

Happy days are here again!

when trump gave his explanation for making fun of that reporter with that muscular condition, did we all take him at his word?

COOTWH doesn’t have a history of telling the truth, telling an average of 8-12 lies or mistruths per day for every day of his first term. It’s reasonable to dismiss his explanation or excuse. For the congresswoman, I don’t know her history of veracity. Regardless, if you’re going to call it out, call it out on both sides. That doesn’t happen but folks always blame Dems for taking the low road. Repubs have been normalized as low road hoarders with impunity.

fine, trump's a bad example. I'm saying if all things were equal, a "normal" GOP Senator. You'd likely dismiss it as BS. 

It’s BS on both sides but only one side bears the burden of the BS.

FiveBelow

Halifax2TheMax said:

FiveBelow said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mrussel1 said:

Who gives a fuck what one congress member said about the TX governor?  What a waste of time.  

Some, apparently.

Clearly. Here is how you prefaced an article you shared a couple weeks ago, you know, the one about a member of congress saying stupid shit about a TX congressman:

"Yup, unapologetic racists are members of the US congress. Nothing has changed."

Any issue with adding unapologetic ableists to the list of traits congress possesses? Since you seemingly do give a fuck about clickbait news. Well, as long as it doesn't involve casting team blue in a negative light, that is. Just another byproduct of our super-awesome duopoly. Go team!

Chimp graphic is cool. Do you disagree with the bold?

The point I was making is that Lorena Bobbitt wasn’t censured for her previous behaviour on the floor of the house nor her pimp comments. Nor was there faux rage exhibited. Then she doubled down on her pimp comments and the black congressman was censured and it was crickets on here. Fast forward to another black Congress person making degrading statements, which gets attention, and when she further clarifies her statement, it’s pointed out as if making a “see, both sides” comparison.

Only one side is held accountable or generates the faux rage. Glad you’re able to normalize it as clickbait and that my point was lost on you.

Happy days are here again!

Let’s just say I personally wouldn’t scream racism because someone said “pimp cane”, and I don’t think ableism is at the root of this. They both said stupid shit. Neither quote is news worthy, imo. Just more clickbait to rile people up. Thanks for pointing out the color of everyone’s skin who was involved, though. Super helpful, it’s a good example of how persuasive that tactic can be to those with preconceived notions that every unfavorable outcome for people of color is due to racism. Headlines are really good at that too. Click, click.  

Halifax2TheMax

FiveBelow said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

FiveBelow said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mrussel1 said:

Who gives a fuck what one congress member said about the TX governor?  What a waste of time.  

Some, apparently.

Clearly. Here is how you prefaced an article you shared a couple weeks ago, you know, the one about a member of congress saying stupid shit about a TX congressman:

"Yup, unapologetic racists are members of the US congress. Nothing has changed."

Any issue with adding unapologetic ableists to the list of traits congress possesses? Since you seemingly do give a fuck about clickbait news. Well, as long as it doesn't involve casting team blue in a negative light, that is. Just another byproduct of our super-awesome duopoly. Go team!

Chimp graphic is cool. Do you disagree with the bold?

The point I was making is that Lorena Bobbitt wasn’t censured for her previous behaviour on the floor of the house nor her pimp comments. Nor was there faux rage exhibited. Then she doubled down on her pimp comments and the black congressman was censured and it was crickets on here. Fast forward to another black Congress person making degrading statements, which gets attention, and when she further clarifies her statement, it’s pointed out as if making a “see, both sides” comparison.

Only one side is held accountable or generates the faux rage. Glad you’re able to normalize it as clickbait and that my point was lost on you.

Happy days are here again!

Let’s just say I personally wouldn’t scream racism because someone said “pimp cane”, and I don’t think ableism is at the root of this. They both said stupid shit. Neither quote is news worthy, imo. Just more clickbait to rile people up. Thanks for pointing out the color of everyone’s skin who was involved, though. Super helpful, it’s a good example of how persuasive that tactic can be to those with preconceived notions that every unfavorable outcome for people of color is due to racism. Headlines are really good at that too. Click, click.  

Like racism doesn’t exist and DEI was unneeded. What year were you figuring you’d be replaced?

Halifax2TheMax

Guess I’m not the only one pointing out folks’ skin color. From Letter From An American:

Hegseth publicly suggested that Brown had been appointed because he is Black. “Was it because of his skin color? Or his skill? We’ll never know, but always doubt,” Hegseth wrote.

OnWis97

DUI hire suggests someone's a DEI hire.

Lerxst1992

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

DE4173 said:

You might want someone to burst it for you.

Unfortunately for the dems, the Rs are masters at turning presidential elections into circus like culture wars, and then are masters at winning the argument and making dem mantra look foolish. We were all around last fall?

either dems begin to understand how the game is won, or let someone else play.

they've lost exactly one election in a row.  Give it a rest.

0.333 BA against trump, who probably would have coasted in 2020 had Covid not turned the election into a bizarre campaign from home for “Sleepy Joe.”

Maybe we need to stop nominating women?  You should run with that one.  Maybe that's the problem. 

I didn't realize Trump was going to run in every election forevermore.  Now that I know that, I am concerned.  But keep talking about what "would have" happened.  You have become really good at ungrounded statements.  

You were downplaying trumps victory. That smells like dem spirit. Grounded in a reality they don’t fare too well in. With a decent economic record, they were completely shut out of all branches of leadership by voters. I wouldn’t downplay that result.

Men winning elections is an unfortunate reality in this country. I don’t support that bias, but if it were my job to win elections, I’d sure as sh!t take notice of it. And 2020 basement campaigning wasn’t the most bizarre of political rallies ever? Since we are criticizing posters here, not recognizing that is extremely ungrounded.

Downplaying?  No, I'm saying Dems lost one election in a row which is empirically true.  They lost the one before but won two previous, prior to losing two previous.  Do you not remember in 2021 when everyone said Trump was dead, DeSantis was the future, even Fox?  Shit changes.  Everything looks bleak in the media until it doesn't.  I don't see you commenting on the Dems winning back both the House and Senate in PA last night.  The senate win was a major upset 

https://apnews.com/article/pennsylvania-democratic-party-donald-trump-election-094e907bd9af0d55a3ac76bb5e22d17c

Oh and here's the sub-lede from Fox:  The House race is the fifth straight special election that Democrats have won so far in 2025, despite the party performing dismally in public opinion polling since losing control of the White House and Senate, and failing to win back the House majority in the 2024 elections.

Sure that state senate win was terrific but did any media outlets report the turnout? Probably about half of what the last vote total was. If the last election was around 50% then this turnout was about 25%. MAGA has turned the tables on Dems, now they only win elections with low turnout. Maybe. But none is talking turnout in these upset elections.

Lerxst1992

Halifax2TheMax said:

FiveBelow said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

FiveBelow said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mrussel1 said:

Who gives a fuck what one congress member said about the TX governor?  What a waste of time.  

Some, apparently.

Clearly. Here is how you prefaced an article you shared a couple weeks ago, you know, the one about a member of congress saying stupid shit about a TX congressman:

"Yup, unapologetic racists are members of the US congress. Nothing has changed."

Any issue with adding unapologetic ableists to the list of traits congress possesses? Since you seemingly do give a fuck about clickbait news. Well, as long as it doesn't involve casting team blue in a negative light, that is. Just another byproduct of our super-awesome duopoly. Go team!

Chimp graphic is cool. Do you disagree with the bold?

The point I was making is that Lorena Bobbitt wasn’t censured for her previous behaviour on the floor of the house nor her pimp comments. Nor was there faux rage exhibited. Then she doubled down on her pimp comments and the black congressman was censured and it was crickets on here. Fast forward to another black Congress person making degrading statements, which gets attention, and when she further clarifies her statement, it’s pointed out as if making a “see, both sides” comparison.

Only one side is held accountable or generates the faux rage. Glad you’re able to normalize it as clickbait and that my point was lost on you.

Happy days are here again!

Let’s just say I personally wouldn’t scream racism because someone said “pimp cane”, and I don’t think ableism is at the root of this. They both said stupid shit. Neither quote is news worthy, imo. Just more clickbait to rile people up. Thanks for pointing out the color of everyone’s skin who was involved, though. Super helpful, it’s a good example of how persuasive that tactic can be to those with preconceived notions that every unfavorable outcome for people of color is due to racism. Headlines are really good at that too. Click, click.  

Like racism doesn’t exist and DEI was unneeded. What year were you figuring you’d be replaced?

For many DEI is about removing qualified people from their jobs without cause, lying about their skills on the way out, and appointing DEI people to fill these positions. Fantastic cause you got there.

mrussel1

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

DE4173 said:

You might want someone to burst it for you.

Unfortunately for the dems, the Rs are masters at turning presidential elections into circus like culture wars, and then are masters at winning the argument and making dem mantra look foolish. We were all around last fall?

either dems begin to understand how the game is won, or let someone else play.

they've lost exactly one election in a row.  Give it a rest.

0.333 BA against trump, who probably would have coasted in 2020 had Covid not turned the election into a bizarre campaign from home for “Sleepy Joe.”

Maybe we need to stop nominating women?  You should run with that one.  Maybe that's the problem. 

I didn't realize Trump was going to run in every election forevermore.  Now that I know that, I am concerned.  But keep talking about what "would have" happened.  You have become really good at ungrounded statements.  

You were downplaying trumps victory. That smells like dem spirit. Grounded in a reality they don’t fare too well in. With a decent economic record, they were completely shut out of all branches of leadership by voters. I wouldn’t downplay that result.

Men winning elections is an unfortunate reality in this country. I don’t support that bias, but if it were my job to win elections, I’d sure as sh!t take notice of it. And 2020 basement campaigning wasn’t the most bizarre of political rallies ever? Since we are criticizing posters here, not recognizing that is extremely ungrounded.

Downplaying?  No, I'm saying Dems lost one election in a row which is empirically true.  They lost the one before but won two previous, prior to losing two previous.  Do you not remember in 2021 when everyone said Trump was dead, DeSantis was the future, even Fox?  Shit changes.  Everything looks bleak in the media until it doesn't.  I don't see you commenting on the Dems winning back both the House and Senate in PA last night.  The senate win was a major upset 

https://apnews.com/article/pennsylvania-democratic-party-donald-trump-election-094e907bd9af0d55a3ac76bb5e22d17c

Oh and here's the sub-lede from Fox:  The House race is the fifth straight special election that Democrats have won so far in 2025, despite the party performing dismally in public opinion polling since losing control of the White House and Senate, and failing to win back the House majority in the 2024 elections.

Sure that state senate win was terrific but did any media outlets report the turnout? Probably about half of what the last vote total was. If the last election was around 50% then this turnout was about 25%. MAGA has turned the tables on Dems, now they only win elections with low turnout. Maybe. But none is talking turnout in these upset elections.

Trump drives turnout.  That era is gone.  He will be on no more ballots short of a Constitutional Amendment, which isn't happening.  So asking how the turnout compared to November, a general election, is a ridiculous question.  Special elections and not even mid terms compare to general elections.  So if you're just going to boo-hoo and be negative until 2028 because your answer is "how did that compare to the last election", then you're going to be a real fucking drag around here.  Rather than focusing on the actual impact of the election, in this case having the D's control both branches in PA.  

Lerxst1992

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

DE4173 said:

You might want someone to burst it for you.

Unfortunately for the dems, the Rs are masters at turning presidential elections into circus like culture wars, and then are masters at winning the argument and making dem mantra look foolish. We were all around last fall?

either dems begin to understand how the game is won, or let someone else play.

they've lost exactly one election in a row.  Give it a rest.

0.333 BA against trump, who probably would have coasted in 2020 had Covid not turned the election into a bizarre campaign from home for “Sleepy Joe.”

Maybe we need to stop nominating women?  You should run with that one.  Maybe that's the problem. 

I didn't realize Trump was going to run in every election forevermore.  Now that I know that, I am concerned.  But keep talking about what "would have" happened.  You have become really good at ungrounded statements.  

You were downplaying trumps victory. That smells like dem spirit. Grounded in a reality they don’t fare too well in. With a decent economic record, they were completely shut out of all branches of leadership by voters. I wouldn’t downplay that result.

Men winning elections is an unfortunate reality in this country. I don’t support that bias, but if it were my job to win elections, I’d sure as sh!t take notice of it. And 2020 basement campaigning wasn’t the most bizarre of political rallies ever? Since we are criticizing posters here, not recognizing that is extremely ungrounded.

Downplaying?  No, I'm saying Dems lost one election in a row which is empirically true.  They lost the one before but won two previous, prior to losing two previous.  Do you not remember in 2021 when everyone said Trump was dead, DeSantis was the future, even Fox?  Shit changes.  Everything looks bleak in the media until it doesn't.  I don't see you commenting on the Dems winning back both the House and Senate in PA last night.  The senate win was a major upset 

https://apnews.com/article/pennsylvania-democratic-party-donald-trump-election-094e907bd9af0d55a3ac76bb5e22d17c

Oh and here's the sub-lede from Fox:  The House race is the fifth straight special election that Democrats have won so far in 2025, despite the party performing dismally in public opinion polling since losing control of the White House and Senate, and failing to win back the House majority in the 2024 elections.

Sure that state senate win was terrific but did any media outlets report the turnout? Probably about half of what the last vote total was. If the last election was around 50% then this turnout was about 25%. MAGA has turned the tables on Dems, now they only win elections with low turnout. Maybe. But none is talking turnout in these upset elections.

Trump drives turnout.  That era is gone.  He will be on no more ballots short of a Constitutional Amendment, which isn't happening.  So asking how the turnout compared to November, a general election, is a ridiculous question.  Special elections and not even mid terms compare to general elections.  So if you're just going to boo-hoo and be negative until 2028 because your answer is "how did that compare to the last election", then you're going to be a real fucking drag around here.  Rather than focusing on the actual impact of the election, in this case having the D's control both branches in PA.  

Turnout is always essential in any post election analysis, especially special elections. The next major election is next November, which I hope democrats can retake the house. The US senate may be gone for a long time, due to the key losses of three red state senators, which helped the Dems for a long time. 

When I think of PA elections…I see the big picture, to many analysts, they see PA as a potential big problem. They say it’s becoming very similar to Ohio.

 I question Democratic Party norms for good reason. They have been losing ground in states sorely needed and will lose close to ten electoral votes/ House seats in the next census and their answer is to rally around AOC / Bernie…IIRC, politicians we both saw as problematic for Dems five years ago