The bottom line is, Joe should have not run for reelection and should have let people know way earlier. He fucked the party and America. Dems did the best they could and it was a noble shot given the circumstances.
Everyone has their pet issue with how it went wrong. The reality is, it probably was a confluence of several things and correcting the one you care about wasn’t gonna fix the others.
We can try to balance that out with a little truth? This Hawkey dude must be a democrat?
Don’t none of them stand up against their party? It’s not like they lied about trumps competency and covered it up and took away our right to vote? Too tired to care?
Polls show Democrats down in the dumps at their lowest approval level in decades, but we Republicans are having an identity crisis of our own, and you can see it in the tug of war over President Trump’s “one big, beautiful bill.” The nub of the conflict: Will Republicans be a majority party of working people, or a permanent minority speaking only for the C suite?
Mr. Trump has promised working-class tax cuts and protection for working-class social insurance, such as Medicaid. But now a noisy contingent of corporatist Republicans — call it the party’s Wall Street wing — is urging Congress to ignore all that and get back to the old-time religion: corporate giveaways, preferences for capital and deep cuts to social insurance.
This wing of the party wants Republicans to build our big, beautiful bill around slashing health insurance for the working poor. But that argument is both morally wrong and politically suicidal.
Let’s begin with the facts of the matter. Medicaid is a federal program that provides health care to low-income Americans in partnership with state governments. Today it serves over 70 million Americans, including well over one million residents of Missouri, the state I represent.
As for Missouri, it is one of 40 Medicaid expansion states — because our voters wanted it that way. In 2020, the same year Mr. Trump carried the Missouri popular vote by a decisive margin, voters mandated that the state expand Medicaid coverage to working-class individuals unable to afford health care elsewhere. Voters went so far as to inscribe that expansion in our state constitution. Now some 21 percent of Missourians benefit from Medicaid or CHIP, the companion insurance program for lower-income children. And many of our rural hospitals and health providers depend on the funding from these programs to keep their doors open.
All of which means this: If Congress cuts funding for Medicaid benefits, Missouri workers and their children will lose their health care. And hospitals will close. It’s that simple. And that pattern will replicate in states across the country.
One of my constituents, a married mother of five, contacted me to explain why Medicaid is vital to her 8-year-old daughter, who depends on a feeding tube to survive. Formula, pump rentals, feeding extensions and other treatments cost $1,500 a month; prescriptions nearly double that cost. These expenses aren’t covered by private insurance. The mother wrote to me, “Without Medicaid, we would lose everything — our home, our vehicles, and eventually, our daughter.”
Congress should be doing everything possible to aid these working families, to make their health care better and more affordable. We should cap prescription drug costs, as I have recently proposed. We should give every family in America with children a hefty tax cut. What we should not do is eliminate their health care.
Mr. Trump himself has been crystal clear on this point. Since taking office he has repeatedly rejected calls for Medicaid benefit cuts. Just the other week, he said, “We are doing absolutely nothing to hurt Medicare, Medicaid or Social Security. Nothing at all.”
And for good reason. The president understands who his voters are. Recent polling shows that 64 percent of Republicans hold a favorable view of Medicaid. About one in six have personally been on the program. Meanwhile, more than 80 percent of Americans oppose significant cuts to Medicaid and over half — half — have a personal or family connection to the Medicaid program.
It’s safe to say the Trump coalition was not pulling the lever for Medicaid cuts in November. Mike Johnson, the House speaker, finally woke up to this fact last week, when he withdrew his support from one of the most aggressive reductions to Medicaid on the table. But many of my House and Senate colleagues keep pushing for substantial cuts, and the House will begin to hash out its differences in negotiations this week.
My colleagues have cited the editorial board of The Wall Street Journal, which has been pushing that line for months, including in a recent editorial that inveighed against my opposition to Medicaid benefit cuts. But following The Journal’s prescriptions would represent the end of any chance of us becoming a working-class party.
Republicans need to open their eyes: Our voters support social insurance programs. More than that, our voters depend on those programs. And there’s a reason for this that Republicans would do well to ponder. Our economy is increasingly unfriendly to working people and their families.
For the better part of 50 years, working wages have been flat in real terms. Working people cannot afford to get married when they want to, have the number of children they want to or raise those children as they would like. These days, they can barely afford to put a roof over their kids’ heads, to say nothing of health care.
Both Democrats and Republicans share the blame for this state of affairs, which is one big reason Mr. Trump got elected. He promised to shake up the status quo. Republicans in Congress should pay attention. Our voters not only want us to protect the social insurance they need to get by; they also want us to fight for a better life — for a better economy with the kinds of jobs and wages that allow working people to get married and start families, to buy homes and have a stake in their towns and neighborhoods.
That’s the promise of American life. If Republicans want to be a working-class party — if we want to be a majority party — we must ignore calls to cut Medicaid and start delivering on America’s promise for America’s working people.
Nobody took away anyone’s “right to vote.” Drama much?
Now, compare what Senator Hee Hawley says with Brandon’s initiatives and dem legislative proposals. Dems can’t fix stupid voting against their interests.
Yeah, you got to vote for the democratic nomination? Truth much?
Voting in a primary is a more recent invention.
True, but how does that absolve the Dems from the crap they tried to pull?
for a party crying about dishonesty, democracy, and immoral conduct, the fact that no one in the party seems to care is daunting. We are maga.
What’s a worse action than nominating someone incompetent and covering it up? And all the other stuff they did. Shooting someone on fifth avenue maybe? The literal purpose of the party is to nominate the most competent candidate and to not hand your opponent legitimacy.
I can’t always tell if you’re looking for accuracy or for dramatics.
I don't like the way the Dems select their nominations but there's no protected right to democratize how a party does that.
Remember this was constructed to avoid the disaster that was the McGovern nomination. That was the advent of super-delegates. It's imperfect, but I find it better than the alternative.
The bottom line is, Joe should have not run for reelection and should have let people know way earlier. He fucked the party and America. Dems did the best they could and it was a noble shot given the circumstances.
Everyone has their pet issue with how it went wrong. The reality is, it probably was a confluence of several things and correcting the one you care about wasn’t gonna fix the others.
Remember it wasn't Joe who was pulling the strings. It was impossible that he was pulling the strings. And it's impossible he orchestrated all the lying and all the manipulation of the nomination process.
the people who did that... they are free to keep their jobs and do crazy shit again in the future, the behind the scenes operatives. And for our friendly Bank VP who thinks he is too tired to consider this a real story, I wonder if he would ever hire someone with an activity like this on their resume
Remember, I watch Morning Joe and Nicole Wallace everyday. Nicole never talks about this topic and Joe maybe he breezes over it for 2 seconds.
That's half the story right there. To people outside the cult this is a big deal, and it was during the election.
That's a huge reason among a few why Trump won and on this forum you'd never know that. Inside the cult, like on this forum, it's not even a story. That's the story
The bottom line is, Joe should have not run for reelection and should have let people know way earlier. He fucked the party and America. Dems did the best they could and it was a noble shot given the circumstances.
Everyone has their pet issue with how it went wrong. The reality is, it probably was a confluence of several things and correcting the one you care about wasn’t gonna fix the others.
Remember it wasn't Joe who was pulling the strings. It was impossible that he was pulling the strings. And it's impossible he orchestrated all the lying and all the manipulation of the nomination process.
the people who did that... they are free to keep their jobs and do crazy shit again in the future, the behind the scenes operatives. And for our friendly Bank VP who thinks he is too tired to consider this a real story, I wonder if he would ever hire someone with an activity like this on their resume
Remember, I watch Morning Joe and Nicole Wallace everyday. Nicole never talks about this topic and Joe maybe he breezes over it for 2 seconds.
That's half the story right there. To people outside the cult this is a big deal, and it was during the election.
That's a huge reason among a few why Trump won and on this forum you'd never know that. Inside the cult, like on this forum, it's not even a story. That's the story
What exactly was the lying and manipulation of the nomination process. Please explain who lied to you. Because if you knew anything about the super delegate process, it was pretty clear how this was going to play out.
The bottom line is, Joe should have not run for reelection and should have let people know way earlier. He fucked the party and America. Dems did the best they could and it was a noble shot given the circumstances.
Everyone has their pet issue with how it went wrong. The reality is, it probably was a confluence of several things and correcting the one you care about wasn’t gonna fix the others.
Remember it wasn't Joe who was pulling the strings. It was impossible that he was pulling the strings. And it's impossible he orchestrated all the lying and all the manipulation of the nomination process.
the people who did that... they are free to keep their jobs and do crazy shit again in the future, the behind the scenes operatives. And for our friendly Bank VP who thinks he is too tired to consider this a real story, I wonder if he would ever hire someone with an activity like this on their resume
Remember, I watch Morning Joe and Nicole Wallace everyday. Nicole never talks about this topic and Joe maybe he breezes over it for 2 seconds.
That's half the story right there. To people outside the cult this is a big deal, and it was during the election.
That's a huge reason among a few why Trump won and on this forum you'd never know that. Inside the cult, like on this forum, it's not even a story. That's the story
The cult lol. I despise the Democrat party for the most part due to their lack of spine and lack of willingness to fight like with like. Trying to present like you have all of your shit together, while going against a raving lunatic is not a big deal.
As soon as Joe made a big enough blunder they closed the gap as quick as they could. Anything short of what they did would have made things look much worse.
An open convention though great from an idealistic standpoint would have been a complete mess and disaster. Instead we got the number 2 on the ticket and Trump won only by margins.
Who are the people outside of the "cult" that would have voted for any Democrat this election.
I work in construction around plenty of Obama/Trump voters. As strange as I find their ability to make a 180 like that, it is very clear that in both cases they bought the messaging. Trump told every low info blue collar worker that only he could bring back their jobs livelihoods etc and they bought it. At this point their is enough buys remorse that I think many of the non MAGA are regretting their vote and realizing that the guy isn't going to deliver.
This election was won on lies, not because Biden was a shambles and we had Kamala thrown at us. Frankly I was energized by Kamala being put at top of ticket and many others in my circle were as well.
But by all means this was the crime of the century and all of us are in a cult that can't see it.
Someone needs someone else to blame for what we have today. Maybe feeling some guilt?
Yeah, the blame game is a things, isn't it?
Maybe someone needs a time machine so they can go back and fix things. Or maybe just learn from mistakes and move forward instead of beating the dead horse to a pulp.
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Remember it wasn't Joe who was pulling the strings. It was impossible that he was pulling the strings. And it's impossible he orchestrated all the lying and all the manipulation of the nomination process.
the people who did that... they are free to keep their jobs and do crazy shit again in the future, the behind the scenes operatives. And for our friendly Bank VP who thinks he is too tired to consider this a real story, I wonder if he would ever hire someone with an activity like this on their resume
Remember, I watch Morning Joe and Nicole Wallace everyday. Nicole never talks about this topic and Joe maybe he breezes over it for 2 seconds.
That's half the story right there. To people outside the cult this is a big deal, and it was during the election.
That's a huge reason among a few why Trump won and on this forum you'd never know that. Inside the cult, like on this forum, it's not even a story. That's the story
As soon as Joe made a big enough blunder they closed the gap as quick as they could. Anything short of what they did would have made things look much worse.
An open convention though great from an idealistic standpoint would have been a complete mess and disaster. Instead we got the number 2 on the ticket and Trump won only by margins.
Who are the people outside of the "cult" that would have voted for any Democrat this election.
I work in construction around plenty of Obama/Trump voters. As strange as I find their ability to make a 180 like that, it is very clear that in both cases they bought the messaging. Trump told every low info blue collar worker that only he could bring back their jobs livelihoods etc and they bought it. At this point their is enough buys remorse that I think many of the non MAGA are regretting their vote and realizing that the guy isn't going to deliver.
This election was won on lies, not because Biden was a shambles and we had Kamala thrown at us. Frankly I was energized by Kamala being put at top of ticket and many others in my circle were as well.
But by all means this was the crime of the century and all of us are in a cult that can't see it.
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