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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
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    Shapiro is good, but I still think the next one is Newsome.  
    Agreed....Newsome is the guy. 
    Have you been watching this debate discussion between him and Desantis?  Newsome's team leveled Ron with their response to his "demands", including the hype video, cue cards, etc.  Newsome already showed that he can smack around a pro like Hannity, so someone as  thin skinned and in his own "bubble" like Ron should not be too much of a challenge.  
    Yes I caught some of that. He'll destroy Desantis. 

    We really need our guys (Newsome, Buttegieg, Shapiro, etc.) to appear on Fox as much as possible. They do well on there.
    Is Ron going to pull a "Musk" and back out after shit talking?  
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Shapiro is good, but I still think the next one is Newsome.  
    Agreed....Newsome is the guy. 
    Have you been watching this debate discussion between him and Desantis?  Newsome's team leveled Ron with their response to his "demands", including the hype video, cue cards, etc.  Newsome already showed that he can smack around a pro like Hannity, so someone as  thin skinned and in his own "bubble" like Ron should not be too much of a challenge.  
    Yes I caught some of that. He'll destroy Desantis. 

    We really need our guys (Newsome, Buttegieg, Shapiro, etc.) to appear on Fox as much as possible. They do well on there.
    Is Ron going to pull a "Musk" and back out after shit talking?  
    Most likely...kind of hard to complain about Newsome not agreeing to no opening statements, etc. He knows that Newsome has too much ammo on him now.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,804
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
    I don't know if you guys heard about this story, but it's news here in Virginia.  In fact, this woman's district is my district and she was actually going door to door a few weeks ago.  She was in my house talking to my wife for about 15 minutes.  My wife really liked her.  Now I really like her because she's a freaky freak. 

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/09/12/candidate-livestreamed-sex-acts-00115395
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    mrussel1 said:
    I don't know if you guys heard about this story, but it's news here in Virginia.  In fact, this woman's district is my district and she was actually going door to door a few weeks ago.  She was in my house talking to my wife for about 15 minutes.  My wife really liked her.  Now I really like her because she's a freaky freak. 

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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    mrussel1 said:
    I don't know if you guys heard about this story, but it's news here in Virginia.  In fact, this woman's district is my district and she was actually going door to door a few weeks ago.  She was in my house talking to my wife for about 15 minutes.  My wife really liked her.  Now I really like her because she's a freaky freak. 

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    Considering that Youngkin forced PornHub to pull out of the Commonwealth, I'm all in favor of getting someone like her into the state government.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
    Considering that Youngkin forced PornHub to pull out of the Commonwealth, I'm all in favor of getting someone like her into the state government.
    Pulling out is common on Pornhub.. 

    I think a similar law was just struck down in TX, where you need age verification.  It violated the 1A.  I was somewhat surprised by the ruling.  I don't know if the situations are the same, but it's possible you may be able to whack this law off the books too.  
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    MTG got nothing on that lady
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    mrussel1 said:
    Considering that Youngkin forced PornHub to pull out of the Commonwealth, I'm all in favor of getting someone like her into the state government.
    Pulling out is common on Pornhub.. 

    I think a similar law was just struck down in TX, where you need age verification.  It violated the 1A.  I was somewhat surprised by the ruling.  I don't know if the situations are the same, but it's possible you may be able to whack this law off the books too.  
    Virginia is for lovers! 
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,804
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    God I hate the “reclaiming my time” shit in congress. 

    “You make a good point, so Imma tell you to stop talking”. 
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,167
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    that congressman is so stupid it hurts my head. 
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,167
    seriously though. why are all of us not in congress or something? we all disagree on a lot of things but we discuss things and could come up with solutions if we really wanted to. can't say that about anybody in our current congress.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    seriously though. why are all of us not in congress or something? we all disagree on a lot of things but we discuss things and could come up with solutions if we really wanted to. can't say that about anybody in our current congress.
    Because the point is to just argue pointlessly while getting nothing done, so you can promise in your next term you’ll get done what you didn’t get done in your last, “cuz the other side”. I would actually LOVE to know what these people, on both sides (and in my CDN government) actually fucking accomplish on any given day. 

    -another pointless hearing, hoping for a gotcha moment that ends up on the nightly talking head shows 
    -lunch out
    -TCB
    -dinner out
    -drinks, uh, long night at the office

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    mickeyrat said:
    “I serve here with some of the greatest minds of the 19th century.” Bahahahahahaha!
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    LOL! Keep sending the buses Abbot! It is revealing the hypocrisy of the left daily. 

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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,792
    seriously though. why are all of us not in congress or something? we all disagree on a lot of things but we discuss things and could come up with solutions if we really wanted to. can't say that about anybody in our current congress.
    Because the point is to just argue pointlessly while getting nothing done, so you can promise in your next term you’ll get done what you didn’t get done in your last, “cuz the other side”. I would actually LOVE to know what these people, on both sides (and in my CDN government) actually fucking accomplish on any given day. 

    -another pointless hearing, hoping for a gotcha moment that ends up on the nightly talking head shows 
    -lunch out
    -TCB
    -dinner out
    -drinks, uh, long night at the office

    Exactly why I hate politics and I’m so sick of everyone. Nothing ever gets done and that’s exactly what they want. Same issues for decades over and over and over. It’s exhausting. 
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    LOL! Keep sending the buses Abbot! It is revealing the hypocrisy of the left daily. 

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    nicknyr15 said:
    seriously though. why are all of us not in congress or something? we all disagree on a lot of things but we discuss things and could come up with solutions if we really wanted to. can't say that about anybody in our current congress.
    Because the point is to just argue pointlessly while getting nothing done, so you can promise in your next term you’ll get done what you didn’t get done in your last, “cuz the other side”. I would actually LOVE to know what these people, on both sides (and in my CDN government) actually fucking accomplish on any given day. 

    -another pointless hearing, hoping for a gotcha moment that ends up on the nightly talking head shows 
    -lunch out
    -TCB
    -dinner out
    -drinks, uh, long night at the office

    Exactly why I hate politics and I’m so sick of everyone. Nothing ever gets done and that’s exactly what they want. Same issues for decades over and over and over. It’s exhausting. 
    Nothing ever gets done? Didn’t the dem governor of PA fix a bridge on I95 in 7 days or something? Isn’t the Brandon Crime Wave’s infrastructure bill getting “‘something’ done?” Is “nothing” just the issues you personally care about?

    Just imagine what could get done if the other side would agree or disagree based upon the same set of facts and offer alternative proposals so that both sides could try to meet in the middle? For example, Repubs haven’t submitted a budget or spending proposals. Brandon has and has offered to meet to discuss once they have. Instead, they’ll shut down government. Hard to have discussions on disagreements when you don’t know where the other side stands on spending priorities.

    Believe it or not, the Brandon Crime Wave has gotten a lot done. Not everything, not perfect, but shits getting done.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    he obviously didn't mean "nothing" literally. he meant "nothing on the scale of how much could get done". 
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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,792
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    he obviously didn't mean "nothing" literally. he meant "nothing on the scale of how much could get done". 
    Thank you for clarifying the obvious. I should have known better. 

    And yea, nothing drives people out to vote like infrastructure.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,167
    remember when "infrastructure week" was a 4 year long running joke?
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    nicknyr15 said:
    he obviously didn't mean "nothing" literally. he meant "nothing on the scale of how much could get done". 
    Thank you for clarifying the obvious. I should have known better. 

    And yea, nothing drives people out to vote like infrastructure.
    OOOoh! He got u on that one too did he!?!  

    At the end of the day we should all be entitled to clean air and clean water.  That isn't nor should be up for debate.  Maybe if we hit it from that angle things would change?

    Without googling here are the things that we made strides on:

    Acid rain
    Ozone 
    In some areas Fracking, over fishing, dumping.
    Air Quality
    LEED certified buildings
    Solar for the people
    Lead, asbestos and radiation 

    I can't imagine these were all strictly Democrat doings.  Somehow, some way there needs to be a way to bridge the gap.
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    he obviously didn't mean "nothing" literally. he meant "nothing on the scale of how much could get done". 
    Then maybe Nick should have said that, or should readers assume what he means? Honest debate is difficult enough without having to assume what someone meant to say. They could just say what they mean. Would you write an email to your boss or colleagues claiming nothing works around here and assume that they knew you were talking about the printer being down again? As an example. Ever hear the expression, “say what you mean, mean what you say?”

    Carry on.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    he obviously didn't mean "nothing" literally. he meant "nothing on the scale of how much could get done". 
    Then maybe Nick should have said that, or should readers assume what he means? Honest debate is difficult enough without having to assume what someone meant to say. They could just say what they mean. Would you write an email to your boss or colleagues claiming nothing works around here and assume that they knew you were talking about the printer being down again? As an example. Ever hear the expression, “say what you mean, mean what you say?”

    Carry on.
    you often take things extremely literally, pretty standard for you. I've mentioned this many times. I don't know if it's a flaw, or you pick at things to jump on to somehow "score points". 

    you could always try to embrace a little nuance in conversations. 

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    nicknyr15 said:
    he obviously didn't mean "nothing" literally. he meant "nothing on the scale of how much could get done". 
    Thank you for clarifying the obvious. I should have known better. 

    And yea, nothing drives people out to vote like infrastructure.
    OOOoh! He got u on that one too did he!?!  

    At the end of the day we should all be entitled to clean air and clean water.  That isn't nor should be up for debate.  Maybe if we hit it from that angle things would change?

    Without googling here are the things that we made strides on:

    Acid rain
    Ozone 
    In some areas Fracking, over fishing, dumping.
    Air Quality
    LEED certified buildings
    Solar for the people
    Lead, asbestos and radiation 

    I can't imagine these were all strictly Democrat doings.  Somehow, some way there needs to be a way to bridge the gap.
    One party wants to gut the EPA, wants to reduce regulations, and believes climate change is a hoax. That party is not the democratic party. 
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,804
    nicknyr15 said:
    he obviously didn't mean "nothing" literally. he meant "nothing on the scale of how much could get done". 
    Thank you for clarifying the obvious. I should have known better. 

    And yea, nothing drives people out to vote like infrastructure.

    As one who's body gets the shit beat out of it on particular stretches of road in select areas in the performance of my job DAILY ,  yes infrastructure is fucking huge for me. Yea it can be a pain in the ass navigating construction zones with fucking dumbasses, I'll take repair/progress any day of the week.
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