psst...10/25/2022

twanzilla · October 2022

EnterThanman said:

twanzilla said:

EnterThanman said:

mcgruff10 said:

Just a thought….it would be cool if they somehow let people who bought ten club tickets to the show have first dibs.

Those people had dibs at the show. The posters available here seem to me to be for others to get a chance to land one.

Your logic would make sense if there was enough for us 10C members to get one at the show.

Well I'd say there is. If you're looking to not wait in a line, and just get a poster ensured at the time you buy a 10c ticket, that's a different conversation. But I've personally never had an issue getting a poster at a show.

I guess I'm just focusing on your wording that they had "dibs" at the show. To me, if there was a 10C only merch line, I'd say that's the case. But a non-10C member and a 10C member have equal shots at getting a poster at any given show. Your argument is that because people go to the show, they have access to the prints first (before they go up online) and that is definitely the case but it isn't like a 10C member going to a show has any particular advantage in actually getting a print. I'm not saying we're entitled to anything but it would be nice to have that advantage.

mace1229 · October 2022

droptheleash9 said:

danofun said:

The complaining needs to end. PJ and 10C commission a poster for every show. They then make it available to US in the merch tent, at the show, direct from the artist, and via the pearljam.com. Will you land everything you want? No. That’s life. Be grateful for the experiences provided, the art created, and the privilege to partake in the what you’re fortunate enough to experience. To Santos, the band, the crew, the artists, and all others involved, thank you.

People aren't entitled to anything. The posters are readily available if you truly want one - either wait in line in the morning or go in right when the doors open to ensure you get one at face value or accept the reality that you might have to pay a tad more to get one on ebay if you can't or don't want to do either of those options. You can't complain if you choose to do something else all day and then walk in 5 minutes before the band comes on and you don't land every piece of merchandise you want.

Don't get me wrong, I get frustrated by getting shut out too. That's why I make the conscious choice to stand in line to grab a shirt and a poster early in the day for most of the shows that I go to. Do I do it at every show? No. And for the ones I don't I have to accept that reality that I chose to do something else with my time so I'm not entitled to a poster at cost. At the end of the day though, I care so much more about the music than the merch (which unfortunately is not the case with a sizeable chunk of this fan base) so I can live with it.

We have different definitions of "readily available." What you describe I would not consider readily available. What I do agree with is it is a choice. If you want one bad enough at face value, there's a decent chance at most shows you can get one. Still always a chance you wait 4 hours and come up empty too.
Most of us just wish there was a way to get one without waiting 4 hours in a line, especially when you're visiting a city you rarely go to.

Vedd Hedd · October 2022

mace1229 said:
Most of us just wish there was a way to get one without waiting 4 hours in a line, especially when you're visiting a city you rarely go to.

This is exactly what I was thinking. There were a few lines during this tour that were just insane. Toronto wasn't bad, with about a 45 minute wait...and that was about the borderline of where I would think twice about getting into a line. Maybe an hour. But for that show, nobody was with me, so I had the time to kill standing in line. For other shows, where I went with people....those people are usually not insane die hards....so there are two options....they stand in line with me for multiple hours, or they go and do other things while I stand in line for multiple hours. Neither of those is really an option, as I dont want to spend that time waiting for a poster. If it means I dont get one, then so be it. But I'd rather there be a better way to get one.

StardogChamp79 · October 2022

I would love it if they offered a presale of posters etc., but it doesn’t appear that it’s a concern for them. It comes down to time vs. money. If you have the time to stand in line (I was there at 6 am for MSG), part of it was talking to awesome fans and exchanging stories. I have met some of the most incredible people this way. It’s hard because not everyone has the freedom to monitor the website or to stand in line for 7 hrs. So then how much are you willing to spend on “The Bay”? I personally would rather stand in line because it is becoming harder and harder to get AP prints that sell out in a matter of 30 sec. I haven’t had much success with those sales anyways. I do appreciate Ten Club rereleasing them, though. I don’t think there will ever be a perfect solution; someone is always going to be pissed.

ikiT · October 2022

mcgruff10 said:

What is the appeal Of this poster?

I approved this poster...

lowbudgetlush · October 2022

StardogChamp79 said:

I would love it if they offered a presale of posters etc., but it doesn’t appear that it’s a concern for them. It comes down to time vs. money. If you have the time to stand in line (I was there at 6 am for MSG), part of it was talking to awesome fans and exchanging stories. I have met some of the most incredible people this way. It’s hard because not everyone has the freedom to monitor the website or to stand in line for 7 hrs. So then how much are you willing to spend on “The Bay”? I personally would rather stand in line because it is becoming harder and harder to get AP prints that sell out in a matter of 30 sec. I haven’t had much success with those sales anyways. I do appreciate Ten Club rereleasing them, though. I don’t think there will ever be a perfect solution; someone is always going to be pissed.

They did do presale posters back in 2009. I have no idea why they never did it again.

Loujoe · October 2022

I recall the rhys colab isle or Wright (sp) poster was a preorder. Another one I got in a mystery sale. Nice poster.

edocon · October 2022

lowbudgetlush said:

StardogChamp79 said:

I would love it if they offered a presale of posters etc., but it doesn’t appear that it’s a concern for them. It comes down to time vs. money. If you have the time to stand in line (I was there at 6 am for MSG), part of it was talking to awesome fans and exchanging stories. I have met some of the most incredible people this way. It’s hard because not everyone has the freedom to monitor the website or to stand in line for 7 hrs. So then how much are you willing to spend on “The Bay”? I personally would rather stand in line because it is becoming harder and harder to get AP prints that sell out in a matter of 30 sec. I haven’t had much success with those sales anyways. I do appreciate Ten Club rereleasing them, though. I don’t think there will ever be a perfect solution; someone is always going to be pissed.

They did do presale posters back in 2009. I have no idea why they never did it again.

Perhaps there was a correlation between presale poster sales and (decline in?) the amount of merch sold at the venue compared to years where they didn't offer presale for posters.

Vedd Hedd · October 2022

edocon said:

lowbudgetlush said:

StardogChamp79 said:

I would love it if they offered a presale of posters etc., but it doesn’t appear that it’s a concern for them. It comes down to time vs. money. If you have the time to stand in line (I was there at 6 am for MSG), part of it was talking to awesome fans and exchanging stories. I have met some of the most incredible people this way. It’s hard because not everyone has the freedom to monitor the website or to stand in line for 7 hrs. So then how much are you willing to spend on “The Bay”? I personally would rather stand in line because it is becoming harder and harder to get AP prints that sell out in a matter of 30 sec. I haven’t had much success with those sales anyways. I do appreciate Ten Club rereleasing them, though. I don’t think there will ever be a perfect solution; someone is always going to be pissed.

They did do presale posters back in 2009. I have no idea why they never did it again.

Perhaps there was a correlation between presale poster sales and (decline in?) the amount of merch sold at the venue compared to years where they didn't offer presale for posters.

I'm guessing it was just a logistical nightmare. I wish the tickets came with a code for a poster that could be used on the website. Then you have 2 weeks to place an order to reserve one being sent. Probably would not be any different logistically than the current system.

sgtppr67 · October 2022

edocon said:

Perhaps there was a correlation between presale poster sales and (decline in?) the amount of merch sold at the venue compared to years where they didn't offer presale for posters.

Nailed it, this whole process is a money making endeavor and whatever nets the most cash with the least effort is going to win the day

Hawk123 · October 2022

Vedd Hedd said:

edocon said:

lowbudgetlush said:

StardogChamp79 said:

I would love it if they offered a presale of posters etc., but it doesn’t appear that it’s a concern for them. It comes down to time vs. money. If you have the time to stand in line (I was there at 6 am for MSG), part of it was talking to awesome fans and exchanging stories. I have met some of the most incredible people this way. It’s hard because not everyone has the freedom to monitor the website or to stand in line for 7 hrs. So then how much are you willing to spend on “The Bay”? I personally would rather stand in line because it is becoming harder and harder to get AP prints that sell out in a matter of 30 sec. I haven’t had much success with those sales anyways. I do appreciate Ten Club rereleasing them, though. I don’t think there will ever be a perfect solution; someone is always going to be pissed.

They did do presale posters back in 2009. I have no idea why they never did it again.

Perhaps there was a correlation between presale poster sales and (decline in?) the amount of merch sold at the venue compared to years where they didn't offer presale for posters.

I'm guessing it was just a logistical nightmare. I wish the tickets came with a code for a poster that could be used on the website. Then you have 2 weeks to place an order to reserve one being sent. Probably would not be any different logistically than the current system.

I would assume the same. They can clear out, for argument sake, 1000 posters in a couple hours at a show x 15 shows. Rolling, packing, labeling, shipping, handling customer complaints, lost packages, tracking follow up, replacements, etc. would be a time suck and likely not worth the hassle.

Tim Simmons · October 2022

I think the simplest answer is the correct one, its a lot of work to mail out a ton of posters and 10c is a small org. Thats why they haven't done the pre-orders again.

Tim Simmons · October 2022

Theres already enough delays and hiccups in their supply chain/distribution, you guys would piss yourself in anger with the amount of time it would take to mail out possibly thousands of posters.

To say nothing to the complaining that would happen about whatever other potential caveats emerge from doing things that way (like no mixing of show posters - individual shows only, which would bring with it individual shipping costs. Or no refunds on damaged posters, etc...).