The 2023 Tour Speculation Thread - Potential Dates/Cities, Logistics/Data & Wishlists **UPDATED**

on2legs

Go Animal said:

Is this helpful? Raw data is hardly ever sexy, but as next summer & fall draw closer, we can close the net & get a better idea of what might be possible!

Very helpful, Matt! Thanks for putting the effort into compiling all those dates for us!

jimjam1982

Lerxst1992 said:

It’s been so long, ten years, since they did a proper US tour (they are American IIRC) not sure why they’d want to do a 2018 repeat of stadiums. Especially a full stadium tour which would involve doubling equipment, trucking and logistics costs, while most baseball stadiums can not accommodate double attendance capacity of arenas. And if stadiums are the new normal, are they going to invest in two sets of lighting and screens to at least give the tens of thousands of fans, assuming they sell out, in the rear something to look at?

Is it too much to hope for (probably is) a legit US tour of 20-24 arena dates, before another MLB stadium run? If they are winded from the 2022 run, take a year off and do it right. Give fans across their country the best PJ experience, in arenas with fans on all sides.

With the most recent Andrew Watt article stating the new album is deep in production I don't think another more proper arena and/or shed run is out of the question. 

I don't think they would do it just for more Gigaton though.  If the new album isn't ready I would guess still ballparks/South America/Australia.  Although Jan/Feb Australia run seems out of the question since it's not much planning time at this point.

RatherStarved

on2legs said:

Go Animal said:

Is this helpful? Raw data is hardly ever sexy, but as next summer & fall draw closer, we can close the net & get a better idea of what might be possible!

Very helpful, Matt! Thanks for putting the effort into compiling all those dates for us!

Yup.  Now I can only make 350 hotel reservations! 

Go Animal

RatherStarved said:

on2legs said:

Go Animal said:

Is this helpful? Raw data is hardly ever sexy, but as next summer & fall draw closer, we can close the net & get a better idea of what might be possible!

Very helpful, Matt! Thanks for putting the effort into compiling all those dates for us!

Yup.  Now I can only make 350 hotel reservations! 

You WOULD, sir!

demetrios

Get_Right said:

Love to be wrong, but nothing is happening in the first half of 2023. Unless there is a festival. Maybe more Earthling dates.

Some Canadian Earthling shows first half of 2023 would be great! 

nc_jammer1

demetrios said:

Get_Right said:

Love to be wrong, but nothing is happening in the first half of 2023. Unless there is a festival. Maybe more Earthling dates.

Some Canadian Earthling shows first half of 2023 would be great! 

yes to this !!

nc_jammer1

NW shows an obvious omission this year, Seattle, Vancouver, Portland, Calgary, etc .....  expect something up here next year,... fingers crossed!! 

HailHailVitalogy

I’ll tell you what….that fucking birdie hasn’t flown by in YEARS

demetrios

HailHailVitalogy said:

I’ll tell you what….that fucking birdie hasn’t flown by in YEARS

I miss her. Guessing she's out of commission. 

Weston1283

The new Arena in Baltimore has a name 

Time to make up Baltimore and Raleigh in 2023!

CantKeepmedown

So, I was told by someone in the know (this person has a family member who works in a business that would be privy to this info) that there are tentative plans to tour in 2023.  Specifically in September. I don't want to say too much that might get this person in trouble. But it's solid info

DEGBTI

CantKeepmedown said:

So, I was told by someone in the know (this person has a family member who works in a business that would be privy to this info) that there are tentative plans to tour in 2023.  Specifically in September. I don't want to say too much that might get this person in trouble. But it's solid info

awesome to hear! thanks

RatherStarved

CantKeepmedown said:

So, I was told by someone in the know (this person has a family member who works in a business that would be privy to this info) that there are tentative plans to tour in 2023.  Specifically in September. I don't want to say too much that might get this person in trouble. But it's solid info

2023 - Good to hear
Sept. - seems so far away 

Get_Right

Makes sense. Festivals in the fall and a few dates around them.

mcgruff10

Sept?!? Man that s a long time away.  

The_Giant_Midget

saw a PJ reddit post today that Krist Novoselic on his website wrote that Matt isn't touring with PJ until the spring

demetrios

The_Giant_Midget said:

saw a PJ reddit post today that Krist Novoselic on his website wrote that Matt isn't touring with PJ until the spring

Sweet!

https://www.reddit.com/r/pearljam/comments/ycta7c/pearl_jam_will_be_touring_this_spring_according/

Go Animal

Not for nothin', there's a reason I use 2016 as a template.

And with Krist spillin' the beans, I'm thinking the schedule will be like a hybrid of 2016 & 2022:

A short Spring Leg & a short Fall Leg, with a few ballparks in between.

I'm still tinkering with an alternate route/road map, just have to move some stuff around because of Blink 182🤣

Weston1283

Go Animal said:

Not for nothin', there's a reason I use 2016 as a template.

And with Krist spillin' the beans, I'm thinking the schedule will be like a hybrid of 2016 & 2022:

A short Spring Leg & a short Fall Leg, with a few ballparks in between.

I'm still tinkering with an alternate route/road map, just have to move some stuff around because of Blink 182🤣

I have Blink tickets for Baltimore May 26th that I am not moving around for PJ lol, so hopefully we get news soon

demetrios

Go Animal said:

A short Spring Leg & a short Fall Leg, with a few ballparks in between.

Down for a short Fall leg. Especially in New England please.

demetrios

Go Animal

**** UPDATED 01/16/2023 ****

So, after some digging, I'm switching things up a little for V.2. Putting a heavy focus on timing, venue availability (primarily ASM venues), and the off-chance we actually get some good governors in Texas & Florida.

As before, if this isn't the plan, consider it a pitch

Prospective 2023 Tour Leg 1, V.2 (aka "I see by your outfit, that you are a cowboy.")

1. Laredo, TX - Sames Auto Arena (formerly Laredo Energy Arena) ASM Global
current open dates: 04/02 - 04/18, and 04/20 - 05/11/23
- Dark horse pick! Old city, and it's just up the road from Monterrey. Great spot for a warm-up show (and a country cover).

2. San Antonio, TX - AT&T Center, ASM Global

current open dates: 04/05 - 05/12/23
- A GIANT venue. About 19,000 can fit in here, and PJ could most DEFINITELY sell it out. Like Miami, tons of money to be made & a happy promoter. Many big concert, wrestling & MMA events have been held here, but the most interesting one is that it was site of Black Sabbath's final U.S. show ever. Maybe we get a full War Pigs cover??

3. Austin, TX - Germania Ampitheatre (14,000+, outdoors), or H-E-B Center, 8.700 + GA, ASM Global

current open dates, Ampitheatre: 04/07 - 05/14/23
current open dates, H-E-B Center: 04/07 - 04/10, 04/14, and 04/17 - 05/13/23
- Would love another ACL taping, but the band has some options on the way to...

4. Dallas, TX  -  American Airlines Center (21,000+!), or Dos Equis Pavilion, 20,000+ GA, played there 20 yrs ago
current open dates, arena: 04/10 - 04/12, 04/14 - 05/04, and 05/06 - 05/11/23
current open dates, pavilion: 04/06 - 05/05, and 05/07 - 05/12/23
- A little out of the way, but look at the capacity! The band would sell out Dallas. Easy.

5. Houston, TX  -  NRG Arena, ASM Global
current open dates, arena: 04/08 - 04/13, 04/17 - 04/20, 04/24 - 04/28, and 04/30 - 05/12/23
- If they go to Texas, this will be THE show. Bank on it.

6. New Orleans, LA - Smoothie King Center, (No Jazz Festival this year)

current open dates, Smoothie King Center: 04/02 & 04/03, and 04/09 - 05/12/23

7. Pensacola, FL - Pensacola Bay Center, or Mobile, AL - Mobile Civic Center, both ASM Global, around 10,000+ ea.

current open dates, Pensacola: 04/01 - 04/06, 04/10 - 04/14, 04/16 & 04/17, and 04/19 - 05/12/23

current open dates, Mobile: 04/01 - 04/05, 04/08 - 04/13, and 04/16 - 05/13/23

- I just like picking a Moline, or a Fresno lol. Jeff does, too!

8. Jacksonville, FL - Vystar Veterans Memorial Arena, ASM Global

current open dates: 04/03 - 04/06, 04/09 - 04/15, 04/17 - 04/28, 04/30 - 05/03, and 05/05 - 05/14/23

- another 2016 stop, and a good place for an off-beat show

9. Orlando, FL -  Amway Center (hey, it's on the way) - last tour stop in Orlando was a private show at the House of Blues in 2003

current open dates, Amway Center: 04/07 - 04/13, 04/15 - 04/18, 04/20 - 04/27, and 04/29 - 05/15/23

House of Blues, Lake Buena Vista: 04/09 - 04/11, 04/13, 04/16 - 04/19, 04/21 - 04/25, 04/27, 04/29- 05/04, and 05/06 - 05/12/23

-- all other venues have an open schedule --

- Orlando is the most progressive city in Florida, and even though the Amway Center is owned by the DeVos family, I'd love to see them play there & just absolutely trash them (and Amway itself, lol). Other possible venues:

• ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex (Lake Buena Vista) - capacity; 7,500 seats, 3,000-3,500 field capacity = 10,500-11,000 (Invictus Games)
  
• Addition Financial Arena (UCF) - capacity: 9,400
• Silver Spurs Arena (Kissimmee) - capacity: 8,000 (site of their VFC concert in 2004, also part of the ASM Global network)
• House of Blues Orlando (Lake Buena Vista, 10C show?) - capacity: 2,500+ (site of their exclusive show that streamed 20 years ago on RealPlayer, live in 2003)

10. Tampa, FL - Amalie Arena (formerly St. Pete Times Forum) tour stop for 22+ years, always a classic.
current open dates: 04/09 & 04/10, 04/12, 04/14 - 04/20, 04/22 - 04/29/23, and 05/01 - 05/15/23
- Miami might bring the heat, but the best setlists in Florida happen in Tampa. Recently booked events: NCAA basketball, 98 Rockfest & New Edition. PJ. Loves. Tampa.

11. Ft. Lauderdale, FL - FLA Live Arena (formerly BB&T Center)
current open dates: 04/07 - 04/09, 04/11 & 04/12, 04/14 - 05/17/23
- FtL could be the penultimate spot, before Miami... but have they completely written off West Palm Beach??

12. Miami, FL - FTX Arena (formerly American Airlines Arena), ASM Global
current open dates: 04/04 - 04/08, 04/10 - 04/28, 04/30 - 05/20/23
- Miami would make a hell of an end-of-leg party! (unfortunate venue name, tho lol)

:end of Leg 1:

Thoughts??

Go Animal

Just an add-on to V.2, here. Time for a little 2018-style action! A little earlier than usual, but there's a 2 week period in June that the band could knock out a couple 2-nighters at some ballparks (and still do 1, or 2 later in the year).

Citizens Bank Park - possible 2 night-stand: 

• Thu. June 01 & Sat. June 03

Yankee Stadium - possible 2 night-stand: 

• Thu. June 01 & Sat. June 03

Camden Yards - possible 2 night-stands:

• Thu. June 01 & Sat. June 03
  
• Fri. June 02 & Sun. June 04
• Sat. June 03 & Mon. June 05
• Sun. June 04 & Tue. June 06
• Mon. June 05 & Wed. June 07

Wrigley Field - possible 2 night-stands:

• Thu. June 01 & Sat. June 03
  
• Fri. June 02 & Sun. June 04
• Sat. June 03 & Mon. June 05
• Sun. June 04 & Tue. June 06
• Mon. June 05 & Wed. June 07
• Tue. June 06 & Thu. June 08
• Wed. June 07 & Fri. June 09
• Thu. June 08 & Sat. June 10

So, with that in mind, if they could pull it off, which of these would you rather see:

1. Citizens Bank Park - Thu. June 01 & Sat. June 03
2. Wrigley Field - Thu. June 08 & Sat. June 10

or

1. Yankee Stadium - Thu. June 01 & Sat. June 03
2. Wrigley Field - Thu. June 08 & Sat. June 10

or

1. Camden Yards - Thu. June 01 & Sat. June 03, or Fri. June 02 & Sun. June 04
2. Wrigley Field - Thu. June 08 & Sat. June 10

pdalowsky

Go Animal said:

So, after some digging, I'm switching things up a little for V.2. Putting a heavy focus on timing, venue availability (primarily ASM venues), and the off-chance we actually get some good governors in Texas & Florida.

As before, if this isn't the plan, consider it a pitch

Prospective 2023 Tour Leg 1, V.2 (aka "I see by your outfit, that you are a cowboy.")

1. Laredo, TX - Sames Auto Arena (formerly Laredo Energy Arena) ASM Global
current open dates: all of April
- Dark horse pick! Old city, and it's just up the road from Monterrey. Great spot for a warm-up show (and a country cover).

2. San Antonio, TX - AT&T Center, ASM Global

current open dates: 04/05 - 05/01/23
- A GIANT venue. About 19,000 can fit in here, and PJ could most DEFINITELY sell it out. Like Miami, tons of money to be made & a happy promoter. Many big concert, wrestling & MMA events have been held here, but the most interesting one is that it was site of Black Sabbath's final U.S. show ever. Maybe we get a full War Pigs cover??

3. Austin, TX - Germania Ampitheatre (14,000+, outdoors), or H-E-B Center, 8.700 + GA, ASM Global

current open dates, Ampitheatre: 04/07 - 04/10, 04/12, 04/14 - 04/30/23
current open dates, H-E-B: 04/07 - 04/10, 04/13 & 04/14, and 04/17 - 04/30
- Would love another ACL taping, but the band has some options on the way to...

4. Dallas, TX  -  American Airlines Center (21,000+!), or Dos Equis Pavilion, 20,000+ GA, played there 20 yrs ago
current open dates, arena: 04/10 - 04/12, 04/14 - 05/04
current open dates, pavilion: 04/06 - 05/05
- A little out of the way, but look at the capacity! The band would sell out Dallas. Easy.

5. Houston, TX  -  NRG Arena, ASM Global
current open dates, arena: 04/10 - 04/20, 04/22 - 04/30, and 05/04 - 05/10/23
- If they go to Texas, this will be THE show. Bank on it.

6. New Orleans, LA - Smoothie King Center (ASM Global), or New Orleans Jazz Festival

current open dates, Smoothie King Center: 04/02 & 04/03, 04/08 - 04/30

festival dates: 04/29, 04/30 & 05/01 - weekend 1 & 05/05, 05/06 & 05/07 - again, listing both weekend as possibilities.

7. Pensacola, FL - Pensacola Bay Center, or Mobile, AL - Mobile Civic Center, both ASM Global, around 10,000+ ea.

current open dates, Pensacola: all of April

current open dates, Mobile: 04/01 - 04/14, 04/17 - 04/30

- I just like picking a Moline, or a Fresno lol. Jeff does, too!

8. Jacksonville, FL - Vystar Veterans Memorial Arena, ASM Global

current open dates: 04/09 - 04/15, 04/17 - 04/30

- another 2016 stop, and a good venue to cap off what could be a hell of a Florida run (unless the go to  Pensacola, or Mobile... both of which have an ASM venue).

9. Orlando, FL -  Amway Center (hey, it's on the way) - last tour stop in Orlando was a private show at the House of Blues in 2003

current open dates, Amway Center: 04/08 - 04/13, 04/15 - 04/27, 04/29 & 04/30

-- all other venues have an open schedule = & are lsited in V.1, page 1 --

10. Tampa, FL - Amalie Arena (formerly St. Pete Times Forum) tour stop for 22+ years, always a classic.
current open dates: 04/07 - 04/10, 04/12, 04/14 - 05/05/23
- PJ. Loves. Tampa.

11. Ft. Lauderdale, FL - FLA Live Arena (formerly BB&T Center)
current open dates: 04/05, 04/07 - 04/09, 04/11 & 04/12, 04/14 - 05/07/23
- FtL could be the penultimate spot, before Miami... but have they completely written off West Palm Beach??

12. Miami, FL - FTX Arena (formerly American Airlines Arena), ASM Global
current open dates: 04/04 - 04/08, 04/10 - 04/28, 04/30 - 05/07/23
- Miami would make a hell of an end-of-leg party!

:end of Leg 1:

Thoughts??

Thoughts, Disney at Easter with a PJ sprinkle?????

Go Animal

pdalowsky said:

Thoughts, Disney at Easter with a PJ sprinkle?????

Yes, please!

Haijay

 Time for Soldier Field

Go Animal

Haijay said:

 Time for Soldier Field

I'd go. And they'd sell it out. Just a matter of confidence. 

JeBurkhardt

Go Animal said:

Haijay said:

 Time for Soldier Field

I'd go. And they'd sell it out. Just a matter of confidence. 

Us as well. We saw The Dead at Soldier Field in 2015 during their 50th anniversary shows. Would love to see PJ there and stay downtown for doing other things too.

yosi

Go Animal said:

Just an add-on to V.2, here. Time for a little 2018-style action! A little earlier than usual, but there's a 2 week period in June that the band could knock out a couple 2-nighters at some ballparks (and still do 1, or 2 later in the year).

Citizens Bank Park - possible 2 night-stand: 

• Thu. June 01 & Sat. June 03

Yankee Stadium - possible 2 night-stand: 

• Thu. June 01 & Sat. June 03

Camden Yards - possible 2 night-stands:

• Thu. June 01 & Sat. June 03
  
• Fri. June 02 & Sun. June 04
• Sat. June 03 & Mon. June 05
• Sun. June 04 & Tue. June 06
• Mon. June 05 & Wed. June 07

Wrigley Field - possible 2 night-stands:

• Thu. June 01 & Sat. June 03
  
• Fri. June 02 & Sun. June 04
• Sat. June 03 & Mon. June 05
• Sun. June 04 & Tue. June 06
• Mon. June 05 & Wed. June 07
• Tue. June 06 & Thu. June 08
• Wed. June 07 & Fri. June 09
• Thu. June 08 & Sat. June 10

So, with that in mind, if they could pull it off, which of these would you rather see:

1. Citizens Bank Park - Thu. June 01 & Sat. June 03
2. Wrigley Field - Thu. June 08 & Sat. June 10

or

1. Yankee Stadium - Thu. June 01 & Sat. June 03
2. Wrigley Field - Thu. June 08 & Sat. June 10

or

1. Camden Yards - Thu. June 01 & Sat. June 03, or Fri. June 02 & Sun. June 04
2. Wrigley Field - Thu. June 08 & Sat. June 10

The gross factor of Yankee Stadium is to high. Let’s replace it with Citi Field. 

trees

RatherStarved said:

Go Animal said:

Weston1283 said:

I wonder if Cleveland hasn’t been hit because they don’t use Ticketmaster 

If I remember correctly, the Fieldhouse tends to use whatever ticketing service Dan Gilbert is invested in at the moment as opposed to Ticketmaster, so Fan club and Fan to Fan seats might not be an option there

OH. Good point! Maybe Cincinnati then?

Columbus 

Yes Columbus Ohio  has a giant  new Soccer stadium