Those saying play without Ed are crazy, you might think that as a hardcore fan wanting a one off show but 90% of people want a normal pearl jam show with the hits, imagine you're a casual fan and you get some weird half ass show and cant even get a refund. By postponing at least people get a refund if they cant make the new date.
And we aren’t crazy. We were in the venue when the cancelled. BS. They couldn’t have done this well before that or come out and talked to the fans or put on a “free” show. You can do both. All the equipment was here which now has to come back for the make you show. The band has literally nothing to do right now and could be playing.
The boring answer here is likely to do with the insurance claim being void if the band plays the show without Eddie. Then there’d be no refunds for ticket holders and even more uproar.
If his voice isn’t doing well, the smart thing was to cancel and try to salvage the last few shows. If they push it and makes it worse, the rest of the shows are done for sure. It sucks for anyone who was going but they have to look at all scenarios and do what’s best overall
Yeah, Im sure its all done with best intentions and future planning. Just sucks for those there tonight, I remember the feeling when the London O2 show got cancelled. Main thing is Ed gets better
If his voice isn’t doing well, the smart thing was to cancel and try to salvage the last few shows. If they push it and makes it worse, the rest of the shows are done for sure. It sucks for anyone who was going but they have to look at all scenarios and do what’s best overall
If his voice isn’t doing well, the smart thing was to cancel and try to salvage the last few shows. If they push it and makes it worse, the rest of the shows are done for sure. It sucks for anyone who was going but they have to look at all scenarios and do what’s best overall
True, but still, the point is rather the timing at which the (obviously foreseeable) cancellation was communicated to the people.
And it's not about "the band tried everything until the end". The latter would have been a soundcheck without EV with an "emergency" program. Also only as a rehearsal for the case of the cases. Nothing took place.
I have to say it. The Gigaton album & tour sure seems cursed. They should have just scraped it from the get-go, recorded a new album and toured that in 2022. Sorry for all the fans that were supposed to go to the show tonight.
As someone posted earlier Ed's voice is probably shot hence the shorter sets this tour. If that is indeed true how stupid is it that they added that Bourbon and beyond festival date that has them play 3 shows in a row. Dumb Dumb Dumb. Id be worried if I was St. Louis.
I have to say it. The Gigaton album & tour sure seems cursed. They should have just scraped it from the get-go, recorded a new album and toured that in 2022. Sorry for all the fans that were supposed to go to the show tonight.
As someone posted earlier Ed's voice is probably shot hence the shorter sets this tour. If that is indeed true how stupid is it that they added that Bourbon and beyond festival date that has them play 3 shows in a row. Dumb Dumb Dumb. Id be worried if I was St. Louis.
good lord, people. For supposedly being “fans”, you people are awfully harsh. This band can’t do anything right as far as you guys are concerned. Guess they should consult the forum for all major decisions.
I have to say it. The Gigaton album & tour sure seems cursed. They should have just scraped it from the get-go, recorded a new album and toured that in 2022. Sorry for all the fans that were supposed to go to the show tonight.
As someone posted earlier Ed's voice is probably shot hence the shorter sets this tour. If that is indeed true how stupid is it that they added that Bourbon and beyond festival date that has them play 3 shows in a row. Dumb Dumb Dumb. Id be worried if I was St. Louis.
Just made this exact comment to a buddy about the St. Louis show
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If his voice isn’t doing well, the smart thing was to cancel and try to salvage the last few shows. If they push it and makes it worse, the rest of the shows are done for sure. It sucks for anyone who was going but they have to look at all scenarios and do what’s best overall
If his voice isn’t doing well, the smart thing was to cancel and try to salvage the last few shows. If they push it and makes it worse, the rest of the shows are done for sure. It sucks for anyone who was going but they have to look at all scenarios and do what’s best overall
True, but still, the point is rather the timing at which the (obviously foreseeable) cancellation was communicated to the people.
And it's not about "the band tried everything until the end". The latter would have been a soundcheck without EV with an "emergency" program. Also only as a rehearsal for the case of the cases. Nothing took place.
They are not gonna play in front of 15.000 people who's there to see Eddie Vedder sing Alive and Evenflow without Eddie Vedder.
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This is a great disappointment. I'm heartbroken, all the more so because there seems to have been no effort at all to find an alternate date.
According to local media, Eddie was still waving from the hotel at six, so it must have been clear by then that there was no show today. It's nice that people still had to wait and shop for hours in the sweltering heat at the merch for a show that they had probably long since guessed would probably not be able to take place.
Probably my disappointment and sadness comes out here more than anything else, but at that second I'm really a little irritated at the timing of the communication as well.
Anyway, all the best Eddie.
Probably Prague will burst as well.
I guess they were still hoping to play at 6. No way they let people queue in the unknown for an hour. He probably had a last check up from doctors who pulled the plug.
Probably, but in my disappointment say, cynically you could say, the cancellation came when the Outside Merch was sold out.
They moved the inside merch to the outside booth after cancelling. To sell it.
I have to say it. The Gigaton album & tour sure seems cursed. They should have just scraped it from the get-go, recorded a new album and toured that in 2022. Sorry for all the fans that were supposed to go to the show tonight.
As someone posted earlier Ed's voice is probably shot hence the shorter sets this tour. If that is indeed true how stupid is it that they added that Bourbon and beyond festival date that has them play 3 shows in a row. Dumb Dumb Dumb. Id be worried if I was St. Louis.
good lord, people. For supposedly being “fans”, you people are awfully harsh. This band can’t do anything right as far as you guys are concerned. Guess they should consult the forum for all major decisions.
Give me a break! Relax! My comment was meant as a joke. The St. Louis part of my comment was serious. 3 shows in a row is dicey any way you look it.
Those saying play without Ed are crazy, you might think that as a hardcore fan wanting a one off show but 90% of people want a normal pearl jam show with the hits, imagine you're a casual fan and you get some weird half ass show and cant even get a refund. By postponing at least people get a refund if they cant make the new date.
And we aren’t crazy. We were in the venue when the cancelled. BS. They couldn’t have done this well before that or come out and talked to the fans or put on a “free” show. You can do both. All the equipment was here which now has to come back for the make you show. The band has literally nothing to do right now and could be playing.
If his voice isn’t doing well, the smart thing was to cancel and try to salvage the last few shows. If they push it and makes it worse, the rest of the shows are done for sure. It sucks for anyone who was going but they have to look at all scenarios and do what’s best overall
If his voice isn’t doing well, the smart thing was to cancel and try to salvage the last few shows. If they push it and makes it worse, the rest of the shows are done for sure. It sucks for anyone who was going but they have to look at all scenarios and do what’s best overall
True, but still, the point is rather the timing at which the (obviously foreseeable) cancellation was communicated to the people.
And it's not about "the band tried everything until the end". The latter would have been a soundcheck without EV with an "emergency" program. Also only as a rehearsal for the case of the cases. Nothing took place.
They are not gonna play in front of 15.000 people who's there to see Eddie Vedder sing Alive and Evenflow without Eddie Vedder.
If his voice isn’t doing well, the smart thing was to cancel and try to salvage the last few shows. If they push it and makes it worse, the rest of the shows are done for sure. It sucks for anyone who was going but they have to look at all scenarios and do what’s best overall
If his voice isn’t doing well, the smart thing was to cancel and try to salvage the last few shows. If they push it and makes it worse, the rest of the shows are done for sure. It sucks for anyone who was going but they have to look at all scenarios and do what’s best overall
True, but still, the point is rather the timing at which the (obviously foreseeable) cancellation was communicated to the people.
And it's not about "the band tried everything until the end". The latter would have been a soundcheck w
Of course, that's clear, although personally that would have been a comfort to me.
But I'll stick with it: The cancellation came very (too) late. And I also find the prompt cancellation a pity instead of at least sounding out an alternative date (despite the logistics). This was obviously not even considered.
I have to say it. The Gigaton album & tour sure seems cursed. They should have just scraped it from the get-go, recorded a new album and toured that in 2022. Sorry for all the fans that were supposed to go to the show tonight.
As someone posted earlier Ed's voice is probably shot hence the shorter sets this tour. If that is indeed true how stupid is it that they added that Bourbon and beyond festival date that has them play 3 shows in a row. Dumb Dumb Dumb. Id be worried if I was St. Louis.
Just made this exact comment to a buddy about the St. Louis show
I have tickets toSTL and this has been my concern ever since they announced Louisville.
Of course, that's clear, although personally that would have been a comfort to me.
But I'll stick with it: The cancellation came very (too) late. And I also find the prompt cancellation a pity instead of at least sounding out an alternative date (despite the logistics). This was obviously not even considered.
In your opinion, when would have been an acceptable time to cancel? Sounds like it was a game time decision.
Of course, that's clear, although personally that would have been a comfort to me.
But I'll stick with it: The cancellation came very (too) late. And I also find the prompt cancellation a pity instead of at least sounding out an alternative date (despite the logistics). This was obviously not even considered.
I don't think that's obvious. They probably considered their options since Monday and communicated their decision when they were sure.
I have to say it. The Gigaton album & tour sure seems cursed. They should have just scraped it from the get-go, recorded a new album and toured that in 2022. Sorry for all the fans that were supposed to go to the show tonight.
As someone posted earlier Ed's voice is probably shot hence the shorter sets this tour. If that is indeed true how stupid is it that they added that Bourbon and beyond festival date that has them play 3 shows in a row. Dumb Dumb Dumb. Id be worried if I was St. Louis.
good lord, people. For supposedly being “fans”, you people are awfully harsh. This band can’t do anything right as far as you guys are concerned. Guess they should consult the forum for all major decisions.
Give me a break! Relax! My comment was meant as a joke. The St. Louis part of my comment was serious. 3 shows in a row is dicey any way you look it.
I’m sure they’ll check with you next time so they don’t over extend themselves since you’ve already decided that Ed’s voice is shot
With the all out cancellation of the last NA shows and this one.. it does feel like they're not wanting to have owed shows over their head anymore. Probably hoping to be playing all these postpone shows so they catch up and start anew.
I feel bad for the fans that travelled. It feels like a hard call to not announce it sooner. They were probably hoping Eddie would be ok and waited right to the wire hoping the situation would improve, then it seemingly didn't. Hard to cancel something earlier, if there's a chance it could proceed.
Considering all the bullshit that can happen nowadays (COVID related cancellations or you yourself get it and can't attend the show, peolple getting their flights cancellled left and right, especially during the summer months), I guess more and more people will stop traveling to shows over time. At some point it just isn't worth it anymore.
Considering all the bullshit that can happen nowadays (COVID related cancellations or you yourself get it and can't attend the show, peolple getting their flights cancellled left and right, especially during the summer months), I guess more and more people will stop traveling to shows over time. At some point it just isn't worth it anymore.
We pulled the plug on Europe this year for this exact reason (especially after trying to do the whole May tour and the pure chaos/uncertainty of it). Traveling in Europe is much harder than having United/American flights here. But it won't deter me from traveling once COVID is no longer grounds for cancellation.
The 3 day run in September will likely affect him the most after it’s conclusion. OKC and DEN are the fall shows most at risk, and it’s not close.
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Honestly with COVID starting to spike again we might see a lot more cancellations if not a full tour cancellation
I don’t think Covid numbers will cancel anything. The only risk that Covid poses at this point is if a band member gets it
But yeah, traveling to see shows is incredibly high risk at the moment.
Don’t book with airlines that don’t offer travel credits if canceled, and don’t book non refundable hotels. Those rules should always be followed when traveling for shows, no matter what.
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Hope he gets well soon!
I'm sure they all feel like shit, having to cancel another show 😪 especially one that was postponed twice already
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Give me a break! Relax! My comment was meant as a joke. The St. Louis part of my comment was serious. 3 shows in a row is dicey any way you look it.
It obviously was not easy.
I feel bad for the fans that travelled. It feels like a hard call to not announce it sooner. They were probably hoping Eddie would be ok and waited right to the wire hoping the situation would improve, then it seemingly didn't. Hard to cancel something earlier, if there's a chance it could proceed.
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But yeah, traveling to see shows is incredibly high risk at the moment.
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