Cancellation Notice For Vienna, Austria

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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 26,362
    edited July 21
    DL136722 said:
    DL136722 said:
    In hindsight, was it smart for Eddie to do a solo tour back in February knowing he was going on a US/EUROPEAN tour a few months later given his previous experience with his throat back in 2018?  Why squeeze that solo tour in before going on a tour that's been postponed for 2 yrs? 
    I imagine he had a solo release to support and there was a window to play some shows before the EU tour. 

    Eddie said in 2018 ”this is the only time we ever had to cancel a show” so I would imagine he thinks his voice is stable enough. 

    Do the solo shows even matter in the context of what happened Paris? His voice has sounded like Eddie sounds on the tour. To my ear. 
    My point is, why chance it? With covid and previous voice issues knowing full well PJ have a 2yr delayed tour to do, doesn't seem like it was a wise decision 
    I fail to see proof of a correalation. Lets see what happens in the future. 

    And it had happened once (1) before. I don’t think he in anyway considered that he was taking a gamble. Like you paint it. 

    Other than being sick, his voice didnt give out during the US tour or the first 75% of the european leg?

    Let’s see what happens on the US leg. 
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 11,397
    DL136722 said:
    Does make one wonder how the "olds", Springsteen and McCartney are able to tour without many issues and play 25+ song sets
    People rag on McCartneys voice though. 

    He squeaks at times but it is generally pretty good.  Agree with others that Ed's vocals are more intense. I think that is part of the reason why we do not hear spin the black circle or blood anymore.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 16,900
    Prague cancelled. 
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  • DL136722DL136722 Not sure...Posts: 635
    .DL136722 said:
    DL136722 said:
    DL136722 said:
    Roger Waters played Boston about a week and a half ago and played 23 songs, he's 78yrs old, just saying PJ not playing at least 25 songs but these old dudes are seems odd 
    It's almost as if different people experience different circumstances & situations. 
    It's almost as if different people aren't learning from others to avoid situations such as this 

    What do you mean? 
    Maybe they can learn something from what Sir Paul did on his tour or maybe layoff off the cigarettes 

    I agree about the cigarettes, I'm sure the smoking over the years has taken its toll.

    I don't understand what they could have learned from McCartney though. He's playing shorter, and less challenging songs from a vocals standpoint. He's also in exceptionally great health for an 80 year old guy. 
    Learn what the 80yr old guy is doing so you can maybe do the same. What's his diet, exercise routine, covid protocols, etc.. because he's obviously doing something right since he's not canceling shows and playing for a long time during each show, there's something to learn 
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  • AV235224AV235224 Posts: 7
    I'm losing hope for Amsterdam
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  • DL136722DL136722 Not sure...Posts: 635
    DL136722 said:
    DL136722 said:
    In hindsight, was it smart for Eddie to do a solo tour back in February knowing he was going on a US/EUROPEAN tour a few months later given his previous experience with his throat back in 2018?  Why squeeze that solo tour in before going on a tour that's been postponed for 2 yrs? 
    I imagine he had a solo release to support and there was a window to play some shows before the EU tour. 

    Eddie said in 2018 ”this is the only time we ever had to cancel a show” so I would imagine he thinks his voice is stable enough. 

    Do the solo shows even matter in the context of what happened Paris? His voice has sounded like Eddie sounds on the tour. To my ear. 
    My point is, why chance it? With covid and previous voice issues knowing full well PJ have a 2yr delayed tour to do, doesn't seem like it was a wise decision 
    I fail to see proof of a correalation. Lets see what happens in the future. 

    And it had happened once (1) before. I don’t think he in anyway considered that he was taking a gamble. Like you paint it. 

    Other than being sick, his voice didnt give out during the US tour or the first 75% of the european leg?

    Let’s see what happens on the US leg. 
    I don't believe it was worth it especially when he's about to go on a tour that's been postponed for 2 years but agree to disagree 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 14,051
    I actually think the solo dates are a warm up for PJ. Singers need to sing.

    Having shows in Feb isn't the problem now.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 7,003
    DL136722 said:
    .DL136722 said:
    DL136722 said:
    DL136722 said:
    Roger Waters played Boston about a week and a half ago and played 23 songs, he's 78yrs old, just saying PJ not playing at least 25 songs but these old dudes are seems odd 
    It's almost as if different people experience different circumstances & situations. 
    It's almost as if different people aren't learning from others to avoid situations such as this 

    What do you mean? 
    Maybe they can learn something from what Sir Paul did on his tour or maybe layoff off the cigarettes 

    I agree about the cigarettes, I'm sure the smoking over the years has taken its toll.

    I don't understand what they could have learned from McCartney though. He's playing shorter, and less challenging songs from a vocals standpoint. He's also in exceptionally great health for an 80 year old guy. 
    Learn what the 80yr old guy is doing so you can maybe do the same. What's his diet, exercise routine, covid protocols, etc.. because he's obviously doing something right since he's not canceling shows and playing for a long time during each show, there's something to learn 

    I think the ship has sailed w/ the voice situation. Again, I agree about the cigarettes, I've long since wondered why Ed kept smoking over the years fully expecting it to take its toll on him. I know from personal experience it's not easy to quit, but it's a pretty foolish thing for anyone to keep doing, never mind a person who relies on their voice to make their living. 

    With that being said, I still don't know how studying what an exceptionally healthy 80yo is doing on his tour would help Ed in 2022. I think you're comparing apples & oranges there. 
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 7,003
    edited July 21
    JimmyV said:
    Prague cancelled. 
    Ugh. 

    Sorry for those who are already there or can't change their plans at this point. 

    Whoever called this tour cursed hit the nail on the head. (maybe @nicknyr15?) 
  • DL136722DL136722 Not sure...Posts: 635
    DL136722 said:
    .DL136722 said:
    DL136722 said:
    DL136722 said:
    Roger Waters played Boston about a week and a half ago and played 23 songs, he's 78yrs old, just saying PJ not playing at least 25 songs but these old dudes are seems odd 
    It's almost as if different people experience different circumstances & situations. 
    It's almost as if different people aren't learning from others to avoid situations such as this 

    What do you mean? 
    Maybe they can learn something from what Sir Paul did on his tour or maybe layoff off the cigarettes 

    I agree about the cigarettes, I'm sure the smoking over the years has taken its toll.

    I don't understand what they could have learned from McCartney though. He's playing shorter, and less challenging songs from a vocals standpoint. He's also in exceptionally great health for an 80 year old guy. 
    Learn what the 80yr old guy is doing so you can maybe do the same. What's his diet, exercise routine, covid protocols, etc.. because he's obviously doing something right since he's not canceling shows and playing for a long time during each show, there's something to learn 

    I think the ship has sailed w/ the voice situation. Again, I agree about the cigarettes, I've long since wondered why Ed kept smoking over the years fully expecting it to take its toll on him. I know from personal experience it's not easy to quit, but it's a pretty foolish thing for anyone to keep doing, never mind a person who relies on their voice to make their living. 

    With that being said, I still don't know how studying what an exceptionally healthy 80yo is doing on his tour would help Ed in 2022. I think you're comparing apples & oranges there. 
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  • DL136722DL136722 Not sure...Posts: 635
    DL136722 said:
    DL136722 said:
    .DL136722 said:
    DL136722 said:
    DL136722 said:
    Roger Waters played Boston about a week and a half ago and played 23 songs, he's 78yrs old, just saying PJ not playing at least 25 songs but these old dudes are seems odd 
    It's almost as if different people experience different circumstances & situations. 
    It's almost as if different people aren't learning from others to avoid situations such as this 

    What do you mean? 
    Maybe they can learn something from what Sir Paul did on his tour or maybe layoff off the cigarettes 

    I agree about the cigarettes, I'm sure the smoking over the years has taken its toll.

    I don't understand what they could have learned from McCartney though. He's playing shorter, and less challenging songs from a vocals standpoint. He's also in exceptionally great health for an 80 year old guy. 
    Learn what the 80yr old guy is doing so you can maybe do the same. What's his diet, exercise routine, covid protocols, etc.. because he's obviously doing something right since he's not canceling shows and playing for a long time during each show, there's something to learn 

    I think the ship has sailed w/ the voice situation. Again, I agree about the cigarettes, I've long since wondered why Ed kept smoking over the years fully expecting it to take its toll on him. I know from personal experience it's not easy to quit, but it's a pretty foolish thing for anyone to keep doing, never mind a person who relies on their voice to make their living. 

    With that being said, I still don't know how studying what an exceptionally healthy 80yo is doing on his tour would help Ed in 2022. I think you're comparing apples & oranges there. 
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    If EV wants to be doing this when he's 80, he may want to take some notes 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 14,051
    DL136722 said:
    .DL136722 said:
    DL136722 said:
    DL136722 said:
    Roger Waters played Boston about a week and a half ago and played 23 songs, he's 78yrs old, just saying PJ not playing at least 25 songs but these old dudes are seems odd 
    It's almost as if different people experience different circumstances & situations. 
    It's almost as if different people aren't learning from others to avoid situations such as this 

    What do you mean? 
    Maybe they can learn something from what Sir Paul did on his tour or maybe layoff off the cigarettes 

    I agree about the cigarettes, I'm sure the smoking over the years has taken its toll.

    I don't understand what they could have learned from McCartney though. He's playing shorter, and less challenging songs from a vocals standpoint. He's also in exceptionally great health for an 80 year old guy. 
    Learn what the 80yr old guy is doing so you can maybe do the same. What's his diet, exercise routine, covid protocols, etc.. because he's obviously doing something right since he's not canceling shows and playing for a long time during each show, there's something to learn 

    I think the ship has sailed w/ the voice situation. Again, I agree about the cigarettes, I've long since wondered why Ed kept smoking over the years fully expecting it to take its toll on him. I know from personal experience it's not easy to quit, but it's a pretty foolish thing for anyone to keep doing, never mind a person who relies on their voice to make their living. 

    With that being said, I still don't know how studying what an exceptionally healthy 80yo is doing on his tour would help Ed in 2022. I think you're comparing apples & oranges there. 
    All this talk of him smoking...does he still smoke?

    I know we used to see him with a cigarette on stage or smoking behind Matt while Mike was soloing or something.  i haven't seen him do that in years.

    It seems like he has at least cut back.
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 16,900
    DL136722 said:
    .DL136722 said:
    DL136722 said:
    DL136722 said:
    Roger Waters played Boston about a week and a half ago and played 23 songs, he's 78yrs old, just saying PJ not playing at least 25 songs but these old dudes are seems odd 
    It's almost as if different people experience different circumstances & situations. 
    It's almost as if different people aren't learning from others to avoid situations such as this 

    What do you mean? 
    Maybe they can learn something from what Sir Paul did on his tour or maybe layoff off the cigarettes 

    I agree about the cigarettes, I'm sure the smoking over the years has taken its toll.

    I don't understand what they could have learned from McCartney though. He's playing shorter, and less challenging songs from a vocals standpoint. He's also in exceptionally great health for an 80 year old guy. 
    Learn what the 80yr old guy is doing so you can maybe do the same. What's his diet, exercise routine, covid protocols, etc.. because he's obviously doing something right since he's not canceling shows and playing for a long time during each show, there's something to learn 

    I think the ship has sailed w/ the voice situation. Again, I agree about the cigarettes, I've long since wondered why Ed kept smoking over the years fully expecting it to take its toll on him. I know from personal experience it's not easy to quit, but it's a pretty foolish thing for anyone to keep doing, never mind a person who relies on their voice to make their living. 

    With that being said, I still don't know how studying what an exceptionally healthy 80yo is doing on his tour would help Ed in 2022. I think you're comparing apples & oranges there. 
    All this talk of him smoking...does he still smoke?

    I know we used to see him with a cigarette on stage or smoking behind Matt while Mike was soloing or something.  i haven't seen him do that in years.

    It seems like he has at least cut back.
    He was smoking as recently as 2020, during both the Bill Simmons and Howard Stern interviews. 
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 7,003
    DL136722 said:
    .DL136722 said:
    DL136722 said:
    DL136722 said:
    Roger Waters played Boston about a week and a half ago and played 23 songs, he's 78yrs old, just saying PJ not playing at least 25 songs but these old dudes are seems odd 
    It's almost as if different people experience different circumstances & situations. 
    It's almost as if different people aren't learning from others to avoid situations such as this 

    What do you mean? 
    Maybe they can learn something from what Sir Paul did on his tour or maybe layoff off the cigarettes 

    I agree about the cigarettes, I'm sure the smoking over the years has taken its toll.

    I don't understand what they could have learned from McCartney though. He's playing shorter, and less challenging songs from a vocals standpoint. He's also in exceptionally great health for an 80 year old guy. 
    Learn what the 80yr old guy is doing so you can maybe do the same. What's his diet, exercise routine, covid protocols, etc.. because he's obviously doing something right since he's not canceling shows and playing for a long time during each show, there's something to learn 

    I think the ship has sailed w/ the voice situation. Again, I agree about the cigarettes, I've long since wondered why Ed kept smoking over the years fully expecting it to take its toll on him. I know from personal experience it's not easy to quit, but it's a pretty foolish thing for anyone to keep doing, never mind a person who relies on their voice to make their living. 

    With that being said, I still don't know how studying what an exceptionally healthy 80yo is doing on his tour would help Ed in 2022. I think you're comparing apples & oranges there. 
    All this talk of him smoking...does he still smoke?

    I know we used to see him with a cigarette on stage or smoking behind Matt while Mike was soloing or something.  i haven't seen him do that in years.

    It seems like he has at least cut back.
    He acknowledged on his Howard Stern interview last year that he still hasn't given them up. 
  • ComeToTXComeToTX AustinPosts: 6,987
    on smartless this year he was smoking.
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • KM73780KM73780 Posts: 889
    DL136722 said:
    DL136722 said:
    DL136722 said:
    Last month in Boston, Paul McCartney played 37 songs and he's 80 years old! 
    And KISS play 20 songs and Paul Stanley (75isch) have to lipsync. 

    Everyone aint keeping their voice when they get older. And some people sang it to shreds in the 80s. 
    I agree but EV is only 57yrs old 
    Yeah. Well IF there is a problem. It is what it is. You can’t rewind time. Dropping 6-10 songs a night seems to be a way to try to handle the workload of making the live act work in 2022. 
    Agree but they're charging the same or more as if they didn't drop 6-10 songs 
    I don’t see why this matters. If you aren’t happy with the cost or the length of the sets, don’t buy a ticket. 
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 7,003
    DL136722 said:
    DL136722 said:
    DL136722 said:
    .DL136722 said:
    DL136722 said:
    DL136722 said:
    Roger Waters played Boston about a week and a half ago and played 23 songs, he's 78yrs old, just saying PJ not playing at least 25 songs but these old dudes are seems odd 
    It's almost as if different people experience different circumstances & situations. 
    It's almost as if different people aren't learning from others to avoid situations such as this 

    What do you mean? 
    Maybe they can learn something from what Sir Paul did on his tour or maybe layoff off the cigarettes 

    I agree about the cigarettes, I'm sure the smoking over the years has taken its toll.

    I don't understand what they could have learned from McCartney though. He's playing shorter, and less challenging songs from a vocals standpoint. He's also in exceptionally great health for an 80 year old guy. 
    Learn what the 80yr old guy is doing so you can maybe do the same. What's his diet, exercise routine, covid protocols, etc.. because he's obviously doing something right since he's not canceling shows and playing for a long time during each show, there's something to learn 

    I think the ship has sailed w/ the voice situation. Again, I agree about the cigarettes, I've long since wondered why Ed kept smoking over the years fully expecting it to take its toll on him. I know from personal experience it's not easy to quit, but it's a pretty foolish thing for anyone to keep doing, never mind a person who relies on their voice to make their living. 

    With that being said, I still don't know how studying what an exceptionally healthy 80yo is doing on his tour would help Ed in 2022. I think you're comparing apples & oranges there. 
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    If EV wants to be doing this when he's 80, he may want to take some notes 
    If that's his intention, sure. He should be taking notes. 
  • DL136722DL136722 Not sure...Posts: 635
    KM73780 said:
    DL136722 said:
    DL136722 said:
    DL136722 said:
    Last month in Boston, Paul McCartney played 37 songs and he's 80 years old! 
    And KISS play 20 songs and Paul Stanley (75isch) have to lipsync. 

    Everyone aint keeping their voice when they get older. And some people sang it to shreds in the 80s. 
    I agree but EV is only 57yrs old 
    Yeah. Well IF there is a problem. It is what it is. You can’t rewind time. Dropping 6-10 songs a night seems to be a way to try to handle the workload of making the live act work in 2022. 
    Agree but they're charging the same or more as if they didn't drop 6-10 songs 
    I don’t see why this matters. If you aren’t happy with the cost or the length of the sets, don’t buy a ticket. 
    I haven't 
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  • DL136722DL136722 Not sure...Posts: 635
    ComeToTX said:
    on smartless this year he was smoking.
    This person knows 🚬
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  • tylermooretylermoore St. Joseph, MIPosts: 505
    DL136722 said:
    ComeToTX said:
    on smartless this year he was smoking.
    This person knows 🚬
    If I remember right they asked him about it and he says he does a lot still 
  • DL136722DL136722 Not sure...Posts: 635
    DL136722 said:
    ComeToTX said:
    on smartless this year he was smoking.
    This person knows 🚬
    If I remember right they asked him about it and he says he does a lot still 
    This person knows as well 🚬
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  • BC62528BC62528 Posts: 143
    Individual habits...These guys are artist - I suspect they live a completely different lifestyle with a unique set of expectations on them - compared to what I consider normal 9-5 people.  If they smoke, drink, do drugs, or whatever - to me it comes with the territory in all likelihood and part of what has made them who they are - amazing and yet flawed, like the rest of us.  Maybe that's part of the allure to me along with the great music.  We all have issues, if an artist wants to engage in what we consider "risky behavior" - than that is their choice and between the individual, their family and the ones who depend on them - bandmates etc.  It would be nice, but I don't think they are obligated to make healthy choices on our behalf.  I've never heard anyone from the band say they wish to be doing this in their 80s - I might be wrong?  Either way, my point is I don't think it is our place to hammer them down for their lifestyle choices at this point.  I was not complaining about Eddie swinging from the rafters in the early days, when he could have broke his neck or worse...it added to the experience and rush.  Regardless - one day we will all wake up and this amazing run with the band will all be over.  Let's just try to enjoy what is left of the ride.  Give these guys some room. - BTW, I had tickets to Vegas - so I get the overall disappointment as well.  Speedy Recovery EV.
  • DL136722DL136722 Not sure...Posts: 635
    BC62528 said:
    Individual habits...These guys are artist - I suspect they live a completely different lifestyle with a unique set of expectations on them - compared to what I consider normal 9-5 people.  If they smoke, drink, do drugs, or whatever - to me it comes with the territory in all likelihood and part of what has made them who they are - amazing and yet flawed, like the rest of us.  Maybe that's part of the allure to me along with the great music.  We all have issues, if an artist wants to engage in what we consider "risky behavior" - than that is their choice and between the individual, their family and the ones who depend on them - bandmates etc.  It would be nice, but I don't think they are obligated to make healthy choices on our behalf.  I've never heard anyone from the band say they wish to be doing this in their 80s - I might be wrong?  Either way, my point is I don't think it is our place to hammer them down for their lifestyle choices at this point.  I was not complaining about Eddie swinging from the rafters in the early days, when he could have broke his neck or worse...it added to the experience and rush.  Regardless - one day we will all wake up and this amazing run with the band will all be over.  Let's just try to enjoy what is left of the ride.  Give these guys some room. - BTW, I had tickets to Vegas - so I get the overall disappointment as well.  Speedy Recovery EV.
    Sounds good but they'll continue on just like the Stones, it's not a real job and it's also a business which keeps others behind the scenes employed 
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  • PeArLgOoNeRPeArLgOoNeR Posts: 1,234
    BC62528 said:
    Individual habits...These guys are artist - I suspect they live a completely different lifestyle with a unique set of expectations on them - compared to what I consider normal 9-5 people.  If they smoke, drink, do drugs, or whatever - to me it comes with the territory in all likelihood and part of what has made them who they are - amazing and yet flawed, like the rest of us.  Maybe that's part of the allure to me along with the great music.  We all have issues, if an artist wants to engage in what we consider "risky behavior" - than that is their choice and between the individual, their family and the ones who depend on them - bandmates etc.  It would be nice, but I don't think they are obligated to make healthy choices on our behalf.  I've never heard anyone from the band say they wish to be doing this in their 80s - I might be wrong?  Either way, my point is I don't think it is our place to hammer them down for their lifestyle choices at this point.  I was not complaining about Eddie swinging from the rafters in the early days, when he could have broke his neck or worse...it added to the experience and rush.  Regardless - one day we will all wake up and this amazing run with the band will all be over.  Let's just try to enjoy what is left of the ride.  Give these guys some room. - BTW, I had tickets to Vegas - so I get the overall disappointment as well.  Speedy Recovery EV.
    I suspect the fear of that day drives some of the frustration shown in this thread.. We all want Pearl Jam for as long as possible!

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  • Celticskemba8Celticskemba8 Posts: 157
    Get_Right said:
    DL136722 said:
    Roger Waters played Boston about a week and a half ago and played 23 songs, he's 78yrs old, just saying PJ not playing at least 25 songs but these old dudes are seems odd 

    Roger waters does not sing at his concerts. 
    Yes he does, just not every song.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 16,900
    Get_Right said:
    DL136722 said:
    Roger Waters played Boston about a week and a half ago and played 23 songs, he's 78yrs old, just saying PJ not playing at least 25 songs but these old dudes are seems odd 

    Roger waters does not sing at his concerts. 
    Yes he does, just not every song.
    He was definitely singing at the 121212 concert when he stopped mid-lyric to kiss Ed on the forehead. 
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  • bmurray06bmurray06 Austin, TexasPosts: 47
    edited July 21
    jwhjr17 said:
    I have to say it. The Gigaton album & tour sure seems cursed. They should have just scraped it from the get-go, recorded a new album and toured that in 2022. Sorry for all the fans that were supposed to go to the show tonight.

    As someone posted earlier Ed's voice is probably shot hence the shorter sets this tour. If that is indeed true how stupid is it that they added that Bourbon and beyond festival date that has them play 3 shows in a row. Dumb Dumb Dumb. Id be worried if I was St. Louis.
    Just made this exact comment to a buddy about the St. Louis show 
    I think it's too early to get too anxious about the St. Louis gig just yet. It was just last year Eddie sang three nights in a row in front of 15,000 folks each night at Ohana (two w/ the earthlings and once with PJ) , four if you include the practice session they performed that Thursday night. Being there that whole weekend, you could tell he was getting the jitters out of the way but his voice got better as the weekend went on IMO. This was also after PJ had only played one other show prior since 2018. It's too early to saw just yet. Two shows got canceled this tour because of COVID, and now we have one voice related issue. And now Prague.... damn. Freaking Climate Change!!!!
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 14,051
    BC62528 said:
    Individual habits...These guys are artist - I suspect they live a completely different lifestyle with a unique set of expectations on them - compared to what I consider normal 9-5 people.  If they smoke, drink, do drugs, or whatever - to me it comes with the territory in all likelihood and part of what has made them who they are - amazing and yet flawed, like the rest of us.  Maybe that's part of the allure to me along with the great music.  We all have issues, if an artist wants to engage in what we consider "risky behavior" - than that is their choice and between the individual, their family and the ones who depend on them - bandmates etc.  It would be nice, but I don't think they are obligated to make healthy choices on our behalf.  I've never heard anyone from the band say they wish to be doing this in their 80s - I might be wrong?  Either way, my point is I don't think it is our place to hammer them down for their lifestyle choices at this point.  I was not complaining about Eddie swinging from the rafters in the early days, when he could have broke his neck or worse...it added to the experience and rush.  Regardless - one day we will all wake up and this amazing run with the band will all be over.  Let's just try to enjoy what is left of the ride.  Give these guys some room. - BTW, I had tickets to Vegas - so I get the overall disappointment as well.  Speedy Recovery EV.
    I suspect the fear of that day drives some of the frustration shown in this thread.. We all want Pearl Jam for as long as possible!
    agreed....it's a fear of having to let go of something we are very attached to. Like a part of us is dying.

    Jesus that's dramatic
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  • 12paws12paws Posts: 1
    So sorry about the shows guys. Many of us have been in those shoes. BUT Go drift into the cities…go help the local communities economy and represent the cool Americans with class. Have a good time. Make memories that are unforgettable. Travel is the key to life and you’re  doing it! You’ll get to see them again, this is tough, make the best of it. Don’t take it out on locals. Haha. Tits up kids. Peace ✌🏼 
  • browngwbrowngw Posts: 96
    12paws said:
    So sorry about the shows guys. Many of us have been in those shoes. BUT Go drift into the cities…go help the local communities economy and represent the cool Americans with class. Have a good time. Make memories that are unforgettable. Travel is the key to life and you’re  doing it! You’ll get to see them again, this is tough, make the best of it. Don’t take it out on locals. Haha. Tits up kids. Peace ✌🏼 
    Many people have traveled from the US to Europe to have multiple shows canceled???  That being said we have taken very good care of our bartenders tonight.  
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