Important Cancelation Notice for Sacramento and Las Vegas

Lerxst1992

droptheleash9 said:

It will be interesting to see where "we" go from here. If fewer songs/shorter setlists are the new norm and you couple that with the ever-present risk of covid (this shit ain't going away), it's hard to see large portions of this fan base committing to traveling to see this band consistently like they do now. With other bands that have large followings like Phish, Dave Matthews Band, Foo Fighters, etc... it's easy to see them in your hometown because they tour relentlessly and have large numbers of dates on their schedule. If one of those artists are your favorite band, you don't have to span the earth to be able to attend their concerts.

Pearl Jam is a different story considering how small their tours are relative to most artists. You add shorter and less diverse sets together with the ever-present risk of Covid (I think this band takes it much more seriously than most) and you get a perfect recipe for what was once a traveling fan base electing to stay home. Big markets like the east coast will always sell out but it might be harder for them to fill shows arenas/amphitheaters, and stadiums in other parts of the country than they previously thought.

I don't mean to be doom and gloom here - maybe that's just me being butthurt about having the carpet pulled out from underneath me minutes before I was supposed to board a flight for the Vegas show.

PS: Hours after the initial post on social media, I finally got an email about the cancellation.

There are about 30 major markets in the US. If an album tour were split over four legs over two years, it isn’t that difficult to hit most of the major markets. The reason so many say “it’s been xxx years since they played my city” is based on their unique boutique approach and indifference to prioritizing where fans live and how much travel is generated by this style of touring.

EA17313

You're packing arenas and all kinds of people are giving each other covid and you do that every time you have a show. Which is fine! We're building on our immunity. It's basically a cold now and it will be with us for ever. All the restrictions have basically been lifted and we're as protected from it now as we're going to be. So not sure why we need to obsessively keep testing ourselves freaking each other out and littering the planet. The hospitals are not at max capacity. This isn't 2020/21. 

JimmyV

I'll say that from many reports it sounds like Vegas hotels have a great policy when it comes to event cancellations. Makes sense that they would given their business model, but still good to see it happen for those that were able to get their money back. 

I personally thought PJ20 should have been in Vegas and would love if they did a residency there sometime. 

pistol3

JimmyV said:

We joke about the term gutted but that is how I feel for the people who had tickets. There are literally GA and merch lines in Sacramento. There's a lady on FB posting a happy picture from the airport gate on her way to Vegas who found out as she boarded. There are probably others who are going to find out when they land. Just awful. 

Just think how shitty this would’ve been for people taking the trip to Fresno to have it cancelled upon arrival. At least it’s Vegas, I guess.

Weston1283

walkunafraid said:

OfThePearl said:

I haven't seen a single person angry at PJ, what are you talking about??

The multiple comments about how COVID is just a cold/flu, that the band shouldn't even be testing, that Ed/Stone/Mike should've just played an acoustic show, that there wasn't adequate communication, etc.

I’m not saying they should or shouldn’t be testing, they can do whatever they want

But it is an absolute fact that if they are going to choose to test daily, that every show has a moderate to high risk of being canceled, and that traveling to shows as a fan comes with more risk than ever.  That’s all I’m saying.  I would be incredibly hesitant to go to Europe this summer and I don’t plan on booking a single non-refundable hotel for the fall.

You couple the Covid risk with the lack of setlist variety, and as someone else said, I think there is going to be a massive dent in the number of traveling PJ fans going forward.

Pre-Covid, I would have NEVER canceled plans last minute to see the band.  But when I woke up on Sunday, after thinking about how the tour was going so far (Covid, setlists) I just said to myself “I think I’m good”.  I almost couldn’t believe it myself that I felt that way, but I did and canceled my west coast trip this week.

bootlegger10

Feel bad for the band.  Sucks for everyone.  Missing Vegas.

Weston - I would say that I enjoyed Phoenix immensely and have had thoughts about slowing down going forward.  You wouldn’t have regretted traveling to see them.  The show was awesome.  2 hrs 20 minutes is a worth traveling for still.

Imcoffeegirl

walkunafraid said:

OfThePearl said:

I haven't seen a single person angry at PJ, what are you talking about??

The multiple comments about how COVID is just a cold/flu, that the band shouldn't even be testing, that Ed/Stone/Mike should've just played an acoustic show, that there wasn't adequate communication, etc.

Agreed - fans here and on social media are making some really disappointing remarks. People need to remember that it's a privilege, not a right, to see our favorite bands live. Everyone touring right now is taking a huge risk, and I think people should remember that before they spew criticism 

JimmyV

Imcoffeegirl said:

walkunafraid said:

OfThePearl said:

I haven't seen a single person angry at PJ, what are you talking about??

The multiple comments about how COVID is just a cold/flu, that the band shouldn't even be testing, that Ed/Stone/Mike should've just played an acoustic show, that there wasn't adequate communication, etc.

Agreed - fans here and on social media are making some really disappointing remarks. People need to remember that it's a privilege, not a right, to see our favorite bands live. Everyone touring right now is taking a huge risk, and I think people should remember that before they spew criticism 

I agree with all of this but it goes both ways. We should also be understanding of people who are rightly disappointed, out money they can't get back, etc. They have a right to be frustrated and we should let them work through it. 

Imcoffeegirl

JimmyV said:

Imcoffeegirl said:

walkunafraid said:

OfThePearl said:

I haven't seen a single person angry at PJ, what are you talking about??

The multiple comments about how COVID is just a cold/flu, that the band shouldn't even be testing, that Ed/Stone/Mike should've just played an acoustic show, that there wasn't adequate communication, etc.

Agreed - fans here and on social media are making some really disappointing remarks. People need to remember that it's a privilege, not a right, to see our favorite bands live. Everyone touring right now is taking a huge risk, and I think people should remember that before they spew criticism 

I agree with all of this but it goes both ways. We should also be understanding of people who are rightly disappointed, out money they can't get back, etc. They have a right to be frustrated and we should let them work through it. 

Absolutely spot on - compassion should go both ways. ❤️Thank you for the reminder. 

Asterisk on the Street

Wishing Matt and Jeff a speedy recovery!

Veddernarian

I didn't have tickets to Sacramento or Vegas.  I really feel bad for the band and fans.  I hope Matt and Jeff recover fully and quickly.  Here is my hope for the Sacramento and Vegas 10c ticketholders.  I hope that when a future tour is announced and assuming Sacramento or Vegas are announced, and 10c does the show ticket allocation where 10c members petition for shows, that current Sacramento and Vegas ticket holders don't get passed over for show admission.  I.e., they automatically get 10c tickets to purchase and not get passed over.  For example, let's say there is a Vegas 2023 show, I'd hate to see a situation where someone is saying "I had tickets to Vegas 2022 and it got cancelled, and now they're returning in 2023 and I got passed over in the 10c lottery process".  I'd hate to see that. 

aurelgugus

Veddernarian said:

I didn't have tickets to Sacramento or Vegas.  I really feel bad for the band and fans.  I hope Matt and Jeff recover fully and quickly.  Here is my hope for the Sacramento and Vegas 10c ticketholders.  I hope that when a future tour is announced and assuming Sacramento or Vegas are announced, and 10c does the show ticket allocation where 10c members petition for shows, that current Sacramento and Vegas ticket holders don't get passed over for show admission.  I.e., they automatically get 10c tickets to purchase and not get passed over.  For example, let's say there is a Vegas 2023 show, I'd hate to see a situation where someone is saying "I had tickets to Vegas 2022 and it got cancelled, and now they're returning in 2023 and I got passed over in the 10c lottery process".  I'd hate to see that. 

Seeing what happened for fans that have tickets for Raleigh and Baltimore …

Zod

I have to assume the choice to cancel and not postpone means they were confident they would return to those markets.

I'm getting the feeling they're just hoping they through making up this years dates (which are mostly postponed 2020 dates) and ending without having to worry about doing them.   They'll probably reassess after seeing how those tours go.

This can't be easy. I think I picked up covid from one of the Oakland shows.  It's not pleasant.  Really sore throat, runny nose, bit of a fever.   It would be nasty working or performing with it.

FiveBelow

It sounds like they did everything they could to keep it going and provide a unique experience for the fans in the process. Bummed about Vegas, but really feel for those of you who were just hours away from showtime. I don’t see Europe or the remaining NA shows being any easier to navigate, makes holding OKC and Denver tickets feel like a tease. Better catch them early because they may not even make it out of Canada in the Fall. 

utpaldesai

843ba said:

So are the band members not vaccinated? 

I know several folks who are vaccinated but got infected not just one but multiple times. The symptoms are milder for vaccinated but you still feel like crap for 2-3 days  

D-Rod

Just my 2 cents as things currently stand.   

- When the spring tour was announced I went for the first 4 shows knowing they were safest ( least likely to get canceled)
- I added both Oakland shows but had alternative arrangements for both Thursday and Friday 
-  I will have the same mindset in the fall,  I'm only planning the 4 Canadian shows.   beyond that your rolling the dice
-  If your traveling to Europe only to see Pearl Jam your asking for trouble.  It this point make other plans and consider it a bonus if your concerts are performed.

On a side note. What bothers me about this whole situation is why isn't there more discussions about diet and exercise?  That should be recommended before vaccination because its something everyone can do and control.  

notes about the author......he is triple vaxed and is a social smoker ( meaning he smokes other peoples, that cheap bastard) usually when getting drunk as f**k.  

U2SJ

aurelgugus said:

Veddernarian said:

I didn't have tickets to Sacramento or Vegas.  I really feel bad for the band and fans.  I hope Matt and Jeff recover fully and quickly.  Here is my hope for the Sacramento and Vegas 10c ticketholders.  I hope that when a future tour is announced and assuming Sacramento or Vegas are announced, and 10c does the show ticket allocation where 10c members petition for shows, that current Sacramento and Vegas ticket holders don't get passed over for show admission.  I.e., they automatically get 10c tickets to purchase and not get passed over.  For example, let's say there is a Vegas 2023 show, I'd hate to see a situation where someone is saying "I had tickets to Vegas 2022 and it got cancelled, and now they're returning in 2023 and I got passed over in the 10c lottery process".  I'd hate to see that. 

Seeing what happened for fans that have tickets for Raleigh and Baltimore …

I am also hoping we would get our same lottery won tickets for Sac or Vegas. 
what ended up happening for the raleigh and baltimore shows?

Gern Blansten

D-Rod said:

Just my 2 cents as things currently stand.   

- When the spring tour was announced I went for the first 4 shows knowing they were safest ( least likely to get canceled)
- I added both Oakland shows but had alternative arrangements for both Thursday and Friday 
-  I will have the same mindset in the fall,  I'm only planning the 4 Canadian shows.   beyond that your rolling the dice
-  If your traveling to Europe only to see Pearl Jam your asking for trouble.  It this point make other plans and consider it a bonus if your concerts are performed.

On a side note. What bothers me about this whole situation is why isn't there more discussions about diet and exercise?  That should be recommended before vaccination because its something everyone can do and control.  

notes about the author......he is triple vaxed and is a social smoker ( meaning he smokes other peoples, that cheap bastard) usually when getting drunk as f**k.  

diet and exercise before vax?  Take that shit somewhere else

droptheleash9

U2SJ said:

aurelgugus said:

Veddernarian said:

I didn't have tickets to Sacramento or Vegas.  I really feel bad for the band and fans.  I hope Matt and Jeff recover fully and quickly.  Here is my hope for the Sacramento and Vegas 10c ticketholders.  I hope that when a future tour is announced and assuming Sacramento or Vegas are announced, and 10c does the show ticket allocation where 10c members petition for shows, that current Sacramento and Vegas ticket holders don't get passed over for show admission.  I.e., they automatically get 10c tickets to purchase and not get passed over.  For example, let's say there is a Vegas 2023 show, I'd hate to see a situation where someone is saying "I had tickets to Vegas 2022 and it got cancelled, and now they're returning in 2023 and I got passed over in the 10c lottery process".  I'd hate to see that. 

Seeing what happened for fans that have tickets for Raleigh and Baltimore …

I am also hoping we would get our same lottery won tickets for Sac or Vegas. 
what ended up happening for the raleigh and baltimore shows?

What happened for the Raleigh/Baltimore shows? A big fat nothing burger...at least thus far. You never know, the band could have something in the works for Baltimore but I think the ship has passed on the cancelled NC show now that it is almost 6 years later.

THEBIBLEISTEN

D-Rod said:

Just my 2 cents as things currently stand.   

- When the spring tour was announced I went for the first 4 shows knowing they were safest ( least likely to get canceled)
- I added both Oakland shows but had alternative arrangements for both Thursday and Friday 
-  I will have the same mindset in the fall,  I'm only planning the 4 Canadian shows.   beyond that your rolling the dice
-  If your traveling to Europe only to see Pearl Jam your asking for trouble.  It this point make other plans and consider it a bonus if your concerts are performed.

On a side note. What bothers me about this whole situation is why isn't there more discussions about diet and exercise?  That should be recommended before vaccination because its something everyone can do and control.  

notes about the author......he is triple vaxed and is a social smoker ( meaning he smokes other peoples, that cheap bastard) usually when getting drunk as f**k.  

People can’t even wear a mask in the grocery store for 10 minutes, do you actually think they will run for 20 minutes, do sit ups or eat a vegetable? This whole pandemic just shows how selfish some people are and the inability to care about anyone but themselves. Put the mask mandates back for flying, indoor public places and watch the numbers of cases go down. People can’t even do the bare minimum for their communities, it’s embarrassing. Drink water, exercise, stay home when your sick, keep your disgusting snotty kids home when they are sick. Do the bare minimum and shit will get better. Aaah, that felt good.