Important Cancelation Notice for Sacramento and Las Vegas

JimmyV

BF25394 said:

I think the fact that the Oakland and Fresno shows had been previously postponed for 25 months whereas the Sacramento and Vegas shows were newly added in March could have been a consideration.  But I think the main thing was that they had time to figure out a way to work around Matt's absence because he tested positive in Arizona more than two days before the first Oakland show whereas they found out that Jeff was positive with only hours to go before Sacramento and no option to replace him.  Jeff clearly wouldn't have been back for Vegas.  They could have scrambled to replace him with the extra days to figure something out, but there has never been a Pearl Jam show without Jeff.

Fresno was a new show. It hadn't been postponed.

They struggled through for as long as they could. Once Jeff got sick on top of Matt's illness and Ed's sickness, they pulled the plug. Could they have postponed? Yes, but I think they learned that lesson in 2020. They probably honestly don't know if/when they will be back on the road, or if they will continue to have the same problems then that plagued this run. Better to cancel and move on rather than postpone something you may never be able to deliver. 

Get_Right

JimmyV said:

BF25394 said:

I think the fact that the Oakland and Fresno shows had been previously postponed for 25 months whereas the Sacramento and Vegas shows were newly added in March could have been a consideration.  But I think the main thing was that they had time to figure out a way to work around Matt's absence because he tested positive in Arizona more than two days before the first Oakland show whereas they found out that Jeff was positive with only hours to go before Sacramento and no option to replace him.  Jeff clearly wouldn't have been back for Vegas.  They could have scrambled to replace him with the extra days to figure something out, but there has never been a Pearl Jam show without Jeff.

Fresno was a new show. It hadn't been postponed.

They struggled through for as long as they could. Once Jeff got sick on top of Matt's illness and Ed's sickness, they pulled the plug. Could they have postponed? Yes, but I think they learned that lesson in 2020. They probably honestly don't know if/when they will be back on the road, or if they will continue to have the same problems then that plagued this run. Better to cancel and move on rather than postpone something you may never be able to deliver. 

Insurance may have something to do with the decision to cancel.

Zod

Get_Right said:

JimmyV said:

BF25394 said:

I think the fact that the Oakland and Fresno shows had been previously postponed for 25 months whereas the Sacramento and Vegas shows were newly added in March could have been a consideration.  But I think the main thing was that they had time to figure out a way to work around Matt's absence because he tested positive in Arizona more than two days before the first Oakland show whereas they found out that Jeff was positive with only hours to go before Sacramento and no option to replace him.  Jeff clearly wouldn't have been back for Vegas.  They could have scrambled to replace him with the extra days to figure something out, but there has never been a Pearl Jam show without Jeff.

Fresno was a new show. It hadn't been postponed.

They struggled through for as long as they could. Once Jeff got sick on top of Matt's illness and Ed's sickness, they pulled the plug. Could they have postponed? Yes, but I think they learned that lesson in 2020. They probably honestly don't know if/when they will be back on the road, or if they will continue to have the same problems then that plagued this run. Better to cancel and move on rather than postpone something you may never be able to deliver. 

Insurance may have something to do with the decision to cancel.

yah , I'm curious how it factors into touring right now.  So many bands having to cancel dates when a band/crew member test positives.  Requirements for bands to be in bubbles. etc..  Insurance must have a lot to do with this?  Allthough you think insurance would lose more if bands tried to plow through a show.. but it does feel like bands have to follow certain procedures to tour (Which all seem pretty similar) so a lot of it must be from requirements to insure tours?

huntersthompson

Zod said:

Get_Right said:

JimmyV said:

BF25394 said:

I think the fact that the Oakland and Fresno shows had been previously postponed for 25 months whereas the Sacramento and Vegas shows were newly added in March could have been a consideration.  But I think the main thing was that they had time to figure out a way to work around Matt's absence because he tested positive in Arizona more than two days before the first Oakland show whereas they found out that Jeff was positive with only hours to go before Sacramento and no option to replace him.  Jeff clearly wouldn't have been back for Vegas.  They could have scrambled to replace him with the extra days to figure something out, but there has never been a Pearl Jam show without Jeff.

Fresno was a new show. It hadn't been postponed.

They struggled through for as long as they could. Once Jeff got sick on top of Matt's illness and Ed's sickness, they pulled the plug. Could they have postponed? Yes, but I think they learned that lesson in 2020. They probably honestly don't know if/when they will be back on the road, or if they will continue to have the same problems then that plagued this run. Better to cancel and move on rather than postpone something you may never be able to deliver. 

Insurance may have something to do with the decision to cancel.

yah , I'm curious how it factors into touring right now.  So many bands having to cancel dates when a band/crew member test positives.  Requirements for bands to be in bubbles. etc..  Insurance must have a lot to do with this?  Allthough you think insurance would lose more if bands tried to plow through a show.. but it does feel like bands have to follow certain procedures to tour (Which all seem pretty similar) so a lot of it must be from requirements to insure tours?

With the age of the band members for the shows I have been going to recently I don't think you mean "insure tours"--I do think you mean Ensure tours...   (queue snare drum) ....  I will be here all week....

Outlawed Torn

Ticketmaster just sent me a separate $10 refund for the Las Vegas commemorative ticket.

RK50065

Outlawed Torn said:

Ticketmaster just sent me a separate $10 refund for the Las Vegas commemorative ticket.

@Outlawed Torn Did you request it? I'm having a hell of a time trying to get my $10 back. 

Outlawed Torn

RK50065 said:

Outlawed Torn said:

Ticketmaster just sent me a separate $10 refund for the Las Vegas commemorative ticket.

@Outlawed Torn Did you request it? I'm having a hell of a time trying to get my $10 back. 

Yes, I sent a request through the Help menu in the app about 3 weeks ago.

drakeheuer14

Can we pretty please get a psst with Sacramento / Vegas merch? 

We were minutes away from buying all of it in Sac anyways! 

huntersthompson

drakeheuer14 said:

Can we pretty please get a psst with Sacramento / Vegas merch? 

We were minutes away from buying all of it in Sac anyways! 

That was the most disappointing finish to a wait in line that I can remember--with that said, I am getting old and my memory is going....

RatherStarved

huntersthompson said:

drakeheuer14 said:

Can we pretty please get a psst with Sacramento / Vegas merch? 

We were minutes away from buying all of it in Sac anyways! 

That was the most disappointing finish to a wait in line that I can remember--with that said, I am getting old and my memory is going....

If a Fresno poster will ease your pain I’ll let mine go for a loss. 

jrellis2

drakeheuer14 said:

Can we pretty please get a psst with Sacramento / Vegas merch? 

We were minutes away from buying all of it in Sac anyways! 

I bought the Vegas poster from the artist when he sold his allotment. It'd be interesting to see the shirt/sticker...I'd probably buy them to memorialize my weird, concertless Vegas weekend.